Dragon 1/35 King Tiger & Tamiya Kubelwagen diorama

Post by **Nige99** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:57 pm

Looking good Paul. How much is the total cost of all the up grades now mate? I bet it's nearly the weight of a RC model now.

Post by **ww2hispanomodels** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:37 pm

It looks amazing! I think this GB has a lot of masterpieces

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:51 pm

Coming together very well.

Those tool really look the part.

Post by **Paul** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:55 pm

Nige99 wrote:Looking good Paul. How much is the total cost of all the up grades now mate? I bet it's nearly the weight of a RC model now.

Erm the tank was £55 and I reckon there's £150 of extras

Post by **spruecutter** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:46 pm

An impressive model and a fine display of modelling skills

Post by **Lee** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:51 pm

You have far too much time on your hands bud....

Looking ace so far

Post by **5Craven** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:23 pm

With all the metal work you will be heading towards a scale weight as well. However it's a cracking build and to see all the attention to detail you're putting in is fantastic.

Post by **PhildaFish** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:24 pm

Wow, that's a serious financial commitment to that build and it shows! Top class, Paul, top class!

Post by **UKscalemodeller** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:29 pm

£205 WOW, just wow

Great looking thing though.

Post by **Tamiyasnob** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:38 pm

Simply a masterpiece of modelling,to pay that much on extra,s and attention to detail this is truly an awesome build. Only wish I had that much skill with photo etch, brilliant

Dave.

Post by **Bagpiper** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:41 pm

It is looking fantastic mate. Thanks so much for making this one epic build.

Cheers mate

Jim

Post by **chief5437** » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:24 am

Totes amazeballs! Looking good. If I were you I wouldn't paint it, just put C3PO as the commander! Lol

Post by **Paul** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:33 pm

Cheers guys and lol at the C3P0 comment

Had a go at sorting the three PE zimmeritt faults today, the mg hump, and the two sides of the turret, so using superglue i filled the gaps and once dry i use my mini chisel to scribe the zimmeritt lines back and with a quick sand with a sanding stick i gave them a lick of alclad brass, im happy with the turret sides, the mg mount is what it is unfortunately.

Looks a lot better than it did

Spare track holders next, then roadwheels and friul tracks

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:42 pm

I wouldn't worry Paul, if you look at real tanks the zimmerit coating took a beating. So having patches where its not "perfect" is probably more realistic anyway.

Its coming on nicely though, almost ready for some paint?

Post by **Coen** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:50 pm

That looks fine Paul, I wouldn't worry about it.
Nice method with the blending the PE... you should consider a "how to" for it... it's pretty sweet. Where did you pick that trick up?

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:54 pm

Very cool.

Nice correcting with the PE.

Post by **Paul** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:55 pm

Coen wrote:That looks fine Paul, I wouldn't worry about it.
Nice method with the blending the PE... you should consider a "how to" for it... it's pretty sweet. Where did you pick that trick up?

Gav0909 wrote:I wouldn't worry Paul, if you look at real tanks the zimmerit coating took a beating. So having patches where its not "perfect" is probably more realistic anyway.

Its coming on nicely though, almost ready for some paint?

Thanks fellas, yes i know it was never a perfect finish and would have suffered some damage, so no problem for me.

Not far from painting gav, as ive said before i want a pic of it all assembled before any paint touches it.

Coen, i didnt pick it up anywhere really, when i first applied the zimmerit and saw it had left ridges, my first thought was to use filler like vallejo etc, that didnt work to well so i thought ill use superglue and i kind of winged it form there lol

Post by **Coen** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:02 pm

Cool...!

"Paul's PE zimmerit correction method"

There, you've been coined.

Post by **Paul** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:19 pm

Lol coen.

Got some more done this afternoon.

Sorted the spare track link holders on the turret sides.

Sadly as this is a mish mash dragon kit, it doesn't cater for the single piece tracks of the later tigers (the earlier tigers had two different parts to the tracks, so had 8 double link spare tracks) the later ones have 12 single spare links and require more holders, the actual holders are fine, but there are not enough of the actual tracks "locks" so I'll need to get some square plasticard strips, Sod's law the only plasticard I don't have. I've left a couple of links off as well as removed one of the hangers too, to give it that "used" look. Tracks are not affixed yet and will be removed for weathering etc.

Also got the royal models mg34 and mount together one real tricky sob to bend, glue and attach.mlooks really good especially the gun sight. Not fully attached in position I was just eager to see how it looked.

Post by **HobbyModeller** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:56 pm

wow great work this build gets better and better by the day !!

Post by **Coen** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:08 pm

I love those little MG kits. They add so much with so little.
You're right about fiddly though... errrg. I've got sausage fingers so PE and I are never on speaking terms.
Yours turned out beautifully.
Man that's going to be a heavy model. Seriously... you should weigh her when she's done.
Just curious.

Post by **Paul** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:13 am

Coen i too have sausage fingers, but dont struggle too much. Its a nice mg, with lots of detail, i was going to use the supplied ammo bag, but after chatting to my mate nige, we decided ammo boxes would look better, so i have a griffon models PE ammo box and belt ammo, ill have on the turret roof.

Anyway the road wheels are all glued together and temporally attached to the chassis, along with the friul replacement front drive sprockets.

I then set to work on the friul tracks.

The neccesary tools and components.

Each link (and theres 210) needs to be drilled through both locating hinge points to ensure its free from excess metal. Only one is cleared all the way through, the other has a stop end as such. I used a .05mm drill bit.

The supplied wire is then fed through the tracks linkage holes until it reaches the stop at one end.

Once it hits the end i pul it back out a mm or two and snip the wire, pushing it fully home hiding the wire end. The instructions call for superglue to be used to secure the wire in place, i found this set didnt require any.

Two completed working links.

Approx 30 mins later a 23 link section is complete, ill do several sections this big and then join them together when needed as i find them easier to manipulate in shorter length's.

Still another 180 links to do

Post by **chief5437** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:24 am

That's really cool, I want some!

Post by **Paul** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:28 am

chief5437 wrote:That's really cool, I want some!

Ill pop em in post for you chief, ill want them back all assembled no later than monday morning though

Post by **chief5437** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:33 am

^^ PMSL!

Post by **hansolo** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:18 am

chief5437 wrote:^^ PMSL!

What does that stand for?
"Post more separate links?

Post by **hansolo** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:25 am

Paul,

Awesome build! Lots of great detail stuff.

I love the King Tiger in gold! Don't paint it.

Just kidding.
Those tracks are a lot of work. But they look amazing.

Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:54 am

Those tracks look like fun

Will have to try them at some point.

Post by **Bagpiper** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:06 pm

Thanks for posting the details on the tracks. I know it is a lot of work but they are going to look fantastic.

Cheers
Jim

Post by **schweinhund227** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:47 pm

Wow.... Where is the Original Kit ???
in the box still ???

LOL

good show my man !!!

Post by **Paul** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:18 pm

Cheers fellas.

The tracks are all together yayyyyy. I managed to do a video guide covering assembling these tracks, I'll also cover using the Ak burnishing fluid too.

Some nice out of focus shots lol, need to sort the sag out once they have been properly put on the tank,as these need to come back off to be weathered anyway.

I weighed it tonight too, i have a tamiya 1/35 king tiger that's totally standard out the box and that weighs 180 grams, this beast currently weighs 440grams

Post by **HobbyModeller** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:19 pm

wow all the hard work (on your behalf) has definitely been worth it this is excellent

Post by **chief5437** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:25 pm

Those tracks look mint! I hope you've got a shelf strong enough to put it on!

Post by **Coen** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:25 pm

440GRAMS! Holy lord liftin Brad Pitt batman!
Wow I'd be curious what the scale weight would be. I'm not sure but I think tha they ran near 80 tonnes, I don't know if tha tis metric or imperial though.

Post by **Nige201980** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:47 pm

Tis beautiful are you sure you have to paint it lol

Post by **Paul** » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:59 pm

Nige201980 wrote:Tis beautiful are you sure you have to paint it lol

I know, such a shame to paint it, but this,is where the real fun begins.

I'm going to attach the tow ropes , cleaning rods,and tools to the left hand side tomorrow, the tanker commander will be built and with the mg and antenna attached ill get some proper pics of it fully assembled, and I reckon that'll become my new avatar.

Then it's back to bits and on with the painting.

Post by **PhildaFish** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:11 am

Beautiful, boss man, lovely shiny PE perfection!

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:37 am

Very cool. So much weight add you sure it can take it lol

Post by **hansolo** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:51 am

This is one positively awesome looking beast Paul!!

Like already said almost a shame to paint this Gold Finger Hot Rod.

But I can't wait to see it happen.

Cheers

Post by **HamilkarBarkas** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:02 pm

this is indeed a multimedia model

those tracks look beautiful on the tank, now i´m curious about the painting process!

Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:48 pm

Bling Bling Tiger

almost a shame to paint it haha!

Post by **panzerman** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:47 pm

Nicely applied P.E. and after market stuff.
Paint over such a well made surface will pay off greatly.
Bill.

Post by **Paul** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:29 pm

Ok ive pva glued the rest of the left hand side extras, tow rope, barrel rods tools etc as well as the antenna and mg, non of it is perfectly positioned but I'm happy enough for these pics as its all going to be coming of straight away. The only thing left off today is the turret mg belt ammo and box and the tanker commander.

Opinions on the spent shell to the rear of the hull by the engine intakes, the bucket is a little cliche too but hey.

Now which pic should i have as an avatar.

Post by **Nige201980** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:42 pm

The 6th one down mate. That is so pretty can't wait to see how it will turn out once painted.

Post by **Paul** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:06 pm

I've also just had what I think is a scary/good idea.

Imagine masking one side of the tank of right through the middle, including the barrel turret etc

Complete camo'ed and weathered,one side, totally untouched the other.

Hmm I think it would be a lot of work, not sure.......

Post by **Nige201980** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:09 pm

That would look so cool sort of before and after shot.

Post by **Radzy** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:54 pm

Hi Paul,

sorry if question I want to ask was already answered before.

Do you anneal photoetched parts when you work with them (before glueing them to model ofc

) ?

Regards,
Radek

Post by **Nige99** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Oh my god Paul, that Tiger looks amazing. It really wood be a crying shame to paint now!!
Love the look.

Post by **Paul** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:51 pm

Radzy wrote:Hi Paul,

sorry if question I want to ask was already answered before.

Do you anneal photoetched parts when you work with them (before glueing them to model ofc ) ?

Regards,
Radek

I would only anneal them if I needed them to conform to a specific shape ie aircraft seatbelts etc

Post by **5Craven** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:04 pm

I am sorry but I am not sure the shell casing works with the rest of the model as it stands. If all the hatches were open and the tank placed in a fixed 'hull down position' diorama then empty cases scattered around would work. But as you have it in a buttoned up finish then any used casings would be stored inside until a lull in the action would allow them to be chucked out. Of course in the end the final call will be yours but you did ask for opinions, I hope mine is of use!