F-4 Phantom II SIG General Chat And Questions

[Vleugelmoer]

You might want to check http://www.aviationmegastore.com in that case they have a absolutely massive decal section. Their search capabilities are a bit crap on the site but you can't win the all of the time

[Thomas2542]

198,75 USD not bad for what was supposed to be a cheap build

You might as well have bought a tamiya

[Vleugelmoer]

Now the Tamiya would have needed a good $40,00 more to give it a late nose to make it aircraft accurate

[Twokidsnosleep]

Picked up my Black Bunny Fujimi today...looks good but decals need some suntanning to get rid of yellowing
Have all three 1/72 Phantoms ready to go for September, just awaiting a ground crew kit.
Now for time to participate, I will be all set if we can invent an extra day of the week.... that would be great

This must be the Fujimi Family of Phantoms on the side of the box; was mentioned earlier in the thread

[Lysus]

You're doing the bunny?! Awesome...

[Twokidsnosleep]

Yep, had to get the bunny.....hope those old decals whiten for me
I got the last set of ground crew just now, so am all ready to roll, I think

[GuyMac]

Black Bunny is awesome

[TemplarX007]

I'll be joining in on this. 1/32 scale. Planning on picking up the kit this weekend.

[GuyMac]

The more, the merrier. Looking forward to all these Rhino's being build.

[Vleugelmoer]

hope those old decals whiten for me

Scott some liquid decal film from micro scale might be able to help you out on the old decals. A thin layer over the decals often prevents them from shattering when they come in contact with water.

[Vleugelmoer]

I'll be joining in on this. 1/32 scale. Planning on picking up the kit this weekend.

First of all welcome on board. The official SIG section should be up in a couple of weeks.

I think this will be the 3rd 1:32 scale entry. Which one are you planning on building?

As always happy modeling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul J (The Other One)

[onemac]

My mate said 'you must build a Phantom' so I'm in. Expect nothing short of a shambles as I'm a returnee to the hobby with dubious previous experience - oh, and I'm learning to airbrush as I go!

I'll plump for 1/48th scale which means Hasegawa (unless advice to the contrary) and must confess I do like the RF versions. Specific scheme still to be decided but I'll let you know.

Al

[TemplarX007]

I'll be building the Revell "F-4G Phantom II Wild Weasel Model Kit".

Now looking into options to kick it up a level.

[Twokidsnosleep]

This is really gonna be a great sig, some awesome builds planned
Little worried my 1/72nds are gonna look miniscule compared to the majestic 1/48 and massive 1/32nds

[Vleugelmoer]

This is really gonna be a great sig, some awesome builds planned
Little worried my 1/72nds are gonna look miniscule compared to the majestic 1/48 and massive 1/32nds

Size doesn't matter at least that's what she said Scott

I still need to see that I can finish my own entry in time with all the add ons going into it.

[Lysus]

This is really gonna be a great sig, some awesome builds planned
Little worried my 1/72nds are gonna look miniscule compared to the majestic 1/48 and massive 1/32nds

Size doesn't matter at least that's what she said Scott

I still need to see that I can finish my own entry in time with all the add ons going into it.

Yeah, if anything my 1/72 that turned out to be a starter kit (hooray for bait-and-switch sales!) will make everyone feel better.

[Vleugelmoer]

This is really gonna be a great sig, some awesome builds planned
Little worried my 1/72nds are gonna look miniscule compared to the majestic 1/48 and massive 1/32nds

Size doesn't matter at least that's what she said Scott

I still need to see that I can finish my own entry in time with all the add ons going into it.

Yeah, if anything my 1/72 that turned out to be a starter kit (hooray for bait-and-switch sales!) will make everyone feel better.

Jason, even the kids snap together kits are or will be allowed to enter. It's about paying hommage to the F-4 and have fun building the model.

I don't think I need to point out that pre-painted snap kits will not be in the winners circle at the end

The other Paul

[Lysus]

Size doesn't matter at least that's what she said Scott

I still need to see that I can finish my own entry in time with all the add ons going into it.

Yeah, if anything my 1/72 that turned out to be a starter kit (hooray for bait-and-switch sales!) will make everyone feel better.

Jason, even the kids snap together kits are or will be allowed to enter. It's about paying hommage to the F-4 and have fun building the model.

I don't think I need to point out that pre-painted snap kits will not be in the winners circle at the end

The other Paul

Thankfully it's not THAT beginner of a beginner kit. It's just 80% a snapper. Which had me pretty upset. Amazon was chill, though. I got to be responsible for the shuttering of a scammy online store and they gave me the credit back. So that's a win.

It was only $10 USD anyway...which should have been a red flag for me. I was just excited to see what I thought was a 1/72 version of the Academy 1/48.

It's still an Academy F-4J, and it will need painting.

[Vleugelmoer]

I'll be building the Revell "F-4G Phantom II Wild Weasel Model Kit".

Now looking into options to kick it up a level.

Sweet to see the latest reincarnation of the new mold 1:32 Revell F-4's join in.

For detailing options I would like to recommend GT Resin. They also have a stuff for the Revell G version. Please check out the Model Jet Parts Facebook page or the sponsors section on large scale planes for product and ordering info.

As always happy modelling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul J (The Other One)

[Lysus]

Oh and no, I'm not concerned about missing out on a chance to win due to the snap fit malarkey, I'm just here to build the F-4 because it's cool.

[Vleugelmoer]

Yeah, if anything my 1/72 that turned out to be a starter kit (hooray for bait-and-switch sales!) will make everyone feel better.

Jason, even the kids snap together kits are or will be allowed to enter. It's about paying hommage to the F-4 and have fun building the model.

I don't think I need to point out that pre-painted snap kits will not be in the winners circle at the end

The other Paul

Thankfully it's not THAT beginner of a beginner kit. It's just 80% a snapper. Which had me pretty upset. Amazon was chill, though. I got to be responsible for the shuttering of a scammy online store and they gave me the credit back. So that's a win.

It was only $10 USD anyway...which should have been a red flag for me. I was just excited to see what I thought was a 1/72 version of the Academy 1/48.

It's still an Academy F-4J, and it will need painting.

Falce advertising some web stores have no scrupulous what so ever. Good you got them closed down. Now let's hope the don't come back under a different name.

So you are basically entering a free 1:72nd scale for this SIG. SWEET a welcome on board in that case, glad to have you join

[Lysus]

Jason, even the kids snap together kits are or will be allowed to enter. It's about paying hommage to the F-4 and have fun building the model.

I don't think I need to point out that pre-painted snap kits will not be in the winners circle at the end

The other Paul

Thankfully it's not THAT beginner of a beginner kit. It's just 80% a snapper. Which had me pretty upset. Amazon was chill, though. I got to be responsible for the shuttering of a scammy online store and they gave me the credit back. So that's a win.

It was only $10 USD anyway...which should have been a red flag for me. I was just excited to see what I thought was a 1/72 version of the Academy 1/48.

It's still an Academy F-4J, and it will need painting.

Falce advertising some web stores have no scrupulous what so ever. Good you got them closed down. Now let's hope the don't come back under a different name.

So you are basically entering a free 1:72nd scale for this SIG. SWEET a welcome on board in that case, glad to have you join

Basically free. I was thinking I was getting a 1/72 VF-84 Jolly Rogers and not the VF-96 that the kit really is, though...so I might seek out some aftermarket decals to right that little injustice.

Nothing against the VF-96, in fact it's a great scheme, just I want to build what I thought I'd be building

[Vleugelmoer]

Thankfully it's not THAT beginner of a beginner kit. It's just 80% a snapper. Which had me pretty upset. Amazon was chill, though. I got to be responsible for the shuttering of a scammy online store and they gave me the credit back. So that's a win.

It was only $10 USD anyway...which should have been a red flag for me. I was just excited to see what I thought was a 1/72 version of the Academy 1/48.

It's still an Academy F-4J, and it will need painting.

Falce advertising some web stores have no scrupulous what so ever. Good you got them closed down. Now let's hope the don't come back under a different name.

So you are basically entering a free 1:72nd scale for this SIG. SWEET a welcome on board in that case, glad to have you join

Basically free. I was thinking I was getting a 1/72 VF-84 Jolly Rogers and not the VF-96 that the kit really is, though...so I might seek out some aftermarket decals to right that little injustice.

Nothing against the VF-96, in fact it's a great scheme, just I want to build what I thought I'd be building

1:72 VF-84 F-4 Decals should be available. I think Microscale does a set if I remember correctly.

Talking about replica kits. I picked up a ACDA copy of the Verlinden Production #84 airfield beacon lights on Ebay the other week. The Verlinden Logo, Art and Font are still on the packaging to talk about nerve. But since the Verlinden set has been out of production for some time now. It was the only semi affordable option out there at the time

[onemac]

I intimated my interest in a Phantom build previously and have now decided on the kit at least. I do like the nose shape of the RF versions so have plumped for this kit:

Phantom_SIG_01 by Al MacNeish, on Flickr

I know it's an old one but as I'm basically a beginner I'll give it a go. Not sure on the decals yet but if these come in the box I may go for this:

F-4USMC McDonnell Douglas RF-4B Phantom II USMC 157351 VMFP-3 by Al MacNeish, on Flickr

I picked up an airbrush for the first time a few months ago and am slowly finding my way but am looking at this build as a learning experience. Thanks for having me on board and I look forward to the build.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Oh and no, I'm not concerned about missing out on a chance to win due to the snap fit malarkey, I'm just here to build the F-4 because it's cool.

Ditto

[Milky]

First time doing a GB here, but who can say no to a Phantom build! So I'll be entering with either one of these

[Spook]

Well I've decided to build this as a D model in an unusual colour scheme for a spook as I've only been able to find 1 photo for reference. I even wrote to the USAF liaison office but I've had no reply yet but I'm not really expecting one.
As for af I've a nice box full just waiting on a sheet of stencil data then I'm ready to go.
I've been like a kid in a sweet shop getting this little lot

[Twokidsnosleep]

First time doing a GB here, but who can say no to a Phantom build! So I'll be entering with either one of these

Milky
We will have some fun in the GB for sure

[Vleugelmoer]

Well I've decided to build this as a D model in an unusual colour scheme for a spook as I've only been able to find 1 photo for reference. I even wrote to the USAF liaison office but I've had no reply yet but I'm not really expecting one.
As for af I've a nice box full just waiting on a sheet of stencil data then I'm ready to go.
I've been like a kid in a sweet shop getting this little lot

Awesome selection of bits going into this build. Would you by chance have a colorscheme name, unit and or aircraft serial so I can have a look in my reference material to see if I can help you out there.

As always happy modeling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul J (The Other One)

[Vleugelmoer]

First time doing a GB here, but who can say no to a Phantom build! So I'll be entering with either one of these

Milky
We will have some fun in the GB for sure

Having FUN is what it is all about. The official section should be up soon so we can get the build started.

As always happy modelling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul J (The Other One)

[Spook]

Awesome selection of bits going into this build. Would you by chance have a colorscheme name, unit and or aircraft serial so I can have a look in my reference material to see if I can help you out there.

Hi Paul (the other one)
This is what I know so far it's an f4d 66-7751, 93rd tfs, 482nd tfw, USAF reserve homestead AFB circa 1984. They called the camo flipper for some strange reason. I only have the 1 picture in all my reference material. I've been all over the web since I decided this is what I was going to build so far I've found nothing new. Any help would be great thanks.

[Vleugelmoer]

I have had a quick look on http://www.airliners.net and did a quick google search. The "flipper"camouflage was the same scheme as used by the Egyptian Air Force. Its a three tone gray scheme I think I have paint numbers and layout for this scheme in my stash. I have also found several decal options in 48th and 32nd scale by Techmod and Hi-Line decals.

Hope this helps you out in the right direction, I have found this color call out at one of my go to online shops hope this is the one you where looking for

http://www.super-hobby.com/products/F-4 ... om-II.html#.

As always happy modeling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul J (The Other One)

[Twokidsnosleep]

Damn, just bought another 1/72ND Hase F4E Phantom, this time with Eduard PE included.......$16 USD
Curse you e Bay sale e-mails!!!!!!
I am weak

[GuyMac]

You don't have to build a whole armada

[JonMW]

Damn you guys! This thread has been tempting me for too long now, I couldn't take it any longer. Just ordered the Good Evening Da Nang, so I guess I don't have any reason not to join all the fun.

[Twokidsnosleep]

You don't have to build a whole armada

I know, I am just too weak No self control
The PE alone on e Bay is twice as much as I paid on the deal

I am thinking that the Fujimi kit might suck and I will just do the two Hase's
Not impressed with the Italeri/Tamiya...why the hell would a good company rebox a shitty kit??? makes them look bad

[Vleugelmoer]

Damn you guys! This thread has been tempting me for too long now, I couldn't take it any longer. Just ordered the Good Evening Da Nang, so I guess I don't have any reason not to join all the fun.

Welcome on board Jon, it's turning into quite the SIG build the more the merrier... Only 23 Days left to the start of the build so please make your way to the start at your convenience please.

[Vleugelmoer]

Damn, just bought another 1/72ND Hase F4E Phantom, this time with Eduard PE included.......$16 USD
Curse you e Bay sale e-mails!!!!!!
I am weak

Scott, I think it might be that intervention time when you start buying kits from the Evil-Bay "Sales" Spam... Nice bargain although doing PE on 1:72nd scale requires nerves of steel, eye sight of a bald eagle and ice water for blood in my opinion.

If some of the kits turn out to be dogs to build you could always do a nice Davis Monthen Dio you have enough F-4's to make it look convincing

[Twokidsnosleep]

Damn, just bought another 1/72ND Hase F4E Phantom, this time with Eduard PE included.......$16 USD
Curse you e Bay sale e-mails!!!!!!
I am weak

Scott, I think it might be that intervention time when you start buying kits from the Evil-Bay "Sales" Spam... Nice bargain although doing PE on 1:72nd scale requires nerves of steel, eye sight of a bald eagle and ice water for blood in my opinion.

If some of the kits turn out to be dogs to build you could always do a nice Davis Monthen Dio you have enough F-4's to make it look convincing

I had to look up Davis-Monthen, but funnily enough an aircraft boneyard diorama was a thought of mine...been looking at google images for a few weeks
That was a sweet deal from the Bay, sometimes you just gotta jump at 'em. The PE will be a cake walk compared to hand painting the cockpit details like I did on the Tamiya...that was brutal even with surgical microscopes and an LED headlight!
Awesome to have JonMW along in the GB, he does some great work

[Lysus]

Damn, just bought another 1/72ND Hase F4E Phantom, this time with Eduard PE included.......$16 USD
Curse you e Bay sale e-mails!!!!!!
I am weak

Scott, I think it might be that intervention time when you start buying kits from the Evil-Bay "Sales" Spam... Nice bargain although doing PE on 1:72nd scale requires nerves of steel, eye sight of a bald eagle and ice water for blood in my opinion.

If some of the kits turn out to be dogs to build you could always do a nice Davis Monthen Dio you have enough F-4's to make it look convincing

I had to look up Davis-Monthen, but funnily enough an aircraft boneyard diorama was a thought of mine...been looking at google images for a few weeks
That was a sweet deal from the Bay, sometimes you just gotta jump at 'em. The PE will be a cake walk compared to hand painting the cockpit details like I did on the Tamiya...that was brutal even with surgical microscopes and an LED headlight!
Awesome to have JonMW along in the GB, he does some great work

I won't lie, I might have a 1/48 Academy in my cart, just waiting for me to become weak-willed. Maybe some PE, too. I've only just tried some to see what it's like to work with, and now I want more. We'll see if I hold out, my dance card is super full through 2017...

Damn you guys! This thread has been tempting me for too long now, I couldn't take it any longer. Just ordered the Good Evening Da Nang, so I guess I don't have any reason not to join all the fun.

[Twokidsnosleep]

...and the whispering voices say "click the buy it button, click the buuuuuutttttton...."

[Lysus]

...and the whispering voices say "click the buy it button, click the buuuuuutttttton...."

More like:

[Twokidsnosleep]

Whatever floats your boat...oorrr flies your aircraft
We need to work together to disrupt another sig...I am interested in gaining points

[Lysus]

Whatever floats your boat...oorrr flies your aircraft
We need to work together to disrupt another sig...I am interested in gaining points

Internet points of any kind are the best kind of points.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Whatever floats your boat...oorrr flies your aircraft
We need to work together to disrupt another sig...I am interested in gaining points

Internet points of any kind are the best kind of points.

until they give you the boot

[Lysus]

Whatever floats your boat...oorrr flies your aircraft
We need to work together to disrupt another sig...I am interested in gaining points

Internet points of any kind are the best kind of points.

until they give you the boot

Challenge accepted!

[Spook]

Postby Vleugelmoer » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:59 am

I have had a quick look on http://www.airliners.net and did a quick google search. The "flipper"camouflage was the same scheme as used by the Egyptian Air Force. Its a three tone gray scheme I think I have paint numbers and layout for this scheme in my stash. I have also found several decal options in 48th and 32nd scale by Techmod and Hi-Line decals.

Hope this helps you out in the right direction, I have found this color call out at one of my go to online shops hope this is the one you where looking for

http://www.super-hobby.com/products/F-4 ... m-II.html#.

As always happy modeling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul J (The Other One)

Thanks Paul but it's the same information as I've already got, and I'm using the high-line decals for it.
The colour call out you pm'd me is the same as well. It seems to be really hard to get any information on this particular scheme.
Thanks for trying

[Spook]

Postby Twokidsnosleep » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:35 pm

Damn, just bought another 1/72ND Hase F4E Phantom, this time with Eduard PE included.......$16 USD
Curse you e Bay sale e-mails!!!!!!
I am weak

The phantom bug has bitten. Enjoy the tomb!!!

[Twokidsnosleep]

Hey guys, I need some aircraft builder help
How do you cover the internal wheel wells of the Phantom to paint the exterior??
I masked off the canopy, but how about protecting the white wheel wells???

[Vleugelmoer]

Hey guys, I need some aircraft builder help
How do you cover the internal wheel wells of the Phantom to paint the exterior??
I masked off the canopy, but how about protecting the white wheel wells???

Hi Scott, for this problem I have found that these products work best: Play Dough, White / Blue Tack, Panzer Putty and White / PVA / Wood glue to hold the internally painted gear doors in place when painting the exterior. On some models the gear doors are oversized for the wheel Wells or are already fixed to the landing gear. In those cases a big blob of the thick stuff mentioned above is enough to cover and protect the area. Don't leave it in place for extended periods, as some products can affect and or ruin the paint job. I have also seen people do the wheel wells and speed brakes after the exterior color has been applied.

Hope these options help you out Scott.

Paul J (The Other One)