Sanctuary........Logan's Run Solar Car....

Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:01 am

I was wondering how it would look with the windscreen on it.
Freaking awesome is how it would look.
I don't know why I even wonder. haha
It still blows my mind that there is no kit here... nothing... just snippings and clippings, bits and bobs, and the odd bit of garbage.
Just epic in it's creation Andy!
When this is done I'll just curl up under my bench and cry.
It'll be like a buddy moving to the next town.

Star creation Buddy

Post by **Nige201980** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:43 am

Wow mate this is AWESOME truly fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:47 am

More fantastic work dude.

Post by **wappynutter** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:36 am

Thanks guys, as always the positive comments make me feel confident and encourages the completion and has given me the guts to attempt something I wouldn't have done before...

More on that soon...
Speaking of which, my build has today been about finished......
( if i continue to fiddle i may wreck it ) ..... I have just taken the final reveal pictures, 12 days ahead of schedule... I have worked hard all weekend though..

I hope I don't let you down..
Thanks again..

Post by **DC87** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:41 am

Great news to hear you have finished this beauty.

Must say I have had a whale of a time viewing your updates, this topic is probably the highlight of this forum for me so far

Post by **wappynutter** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:47 am

Thanks DC..... Put a big smile on my face...

.....but it ain't over yet

Your gonna love the next weeks posts, I impress myself with my own build..

Thanks again mate..

Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:17 pm

Hohoho seriously!!
Wow.
Oh man this will be cool!!

Post by **wappynutter** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:52 pm

Well as I stated earlier in the week, my build is complete, my build log isn't so I best get posting eh??
I will start by painting up the solar panel and the roof and roof instrument panel.

I have used a cheap £1 chrome spray for the panel and roof, the inside roof lining will be brush painted using the paint decanted from the non functioning Ford spray can I used for the rest of the interior.

Cheap gloss white gives a not so glossy finish to the solar panel.

All "Chromed" up...

Time to go colour crazy with the roof mounted instrument panel using the artists acrylics and a cocktail stick to paint.....

So......... shall we paint this up and see what it looks like Chrome???
This will either kill it or make it.... Remember me telling you all how rubbish I was with painting??
Fingers crossed...Breath slowly and Remember to allow drying time..... my biggest pitfall...

Here we go then......

Hmmm..... I still see some bad bits but to mess with it now will destroy it I think, so live with the bad bits and learn for the next time eh??

Going to remove the masking on the clear pop bottle windows to assess the overspray/glue damage...

Not as bad as I thought they would look..

Maybe a little white spirit soaked cotton bud and some clean buds to dry up with will bring the plastic up a little better and remove tape residue and overspray marks ...

Well you can see in....

Lots of pictures sorry.......

Just trying to show you guys the finish from recycled pop/ flavoured water bottle windows. and while I am taking pictures I am not fussing, ruining the shiny, soft, easily fingerprinted and greased up paintwork.......

So before I go for another day I will just post up the inside roof lining with the instrument panel in place and all brush painted up. Its not great but its the inside roof so isn't easily seen unless the roof is off for inside viewing which I am leaving this option along with the opening sliding doors..

Now next post will be a little change from the numerous car pictures.... I have got to decide what I am doing with this huge chunk of chrome painted plastic as its easily marked and fingerprinted.
After sitting with the kids watching Disney Junior, then a stint on Hamilkar Barkas' You tube channel it hit me.....

More next time, which will be real soon as we are getting close to end date...

Take care all, as always thanks for dropping by for a look, and don't miss the next couple of posts as I wrap this crazy scratch build up.....

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:56 pm

Damn dude.

It looks so nice with some paint on it

And the windows look great will be an excellent display piece.

Post by **wappynutter** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:02 pm

T3hGuppy wrote:Damn dude.

It looks so nice with some paint on it

And the windows look great will be an excellent display piece.

Thanks Guppy... you don't think I have killed it yet then??
....and Hmmmmmm...... display piece....

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:12 pm

wappynutter wrote: Thanks Guppy... you don't think I have killed it yet then??
....and Hmmmmmm...... display piece....

Not at all dude.

So much respect for your skill with plastic.

Really looking forward to all your future builds.

Post by **wappynutter** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:18 pm

Thanks Guppy.... its at that point where it looks rough as,
but once the decal/ stickers go on and the finishing bits and bobs I think you will be pleasantly surprised..

Post by **Coen** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:05 am

Finally the tape is off. I've been dying to see how they turned out.
That is a hell of a lot better than I had expected. Well done!!!
WOW. A wee bit of clean up and all set.
This is just freaking fantastic Wappy.
I keep pluggin this build in some of my videos... it's a little embarrassing. haha.
It's one of my favourites.
Almost over now.... sniff...

Post by **Paul** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:13 am

The paintwork, masking and glasswork turned out great this is real coming together now mate. Look forward to the next instalment.

Post by **Nige201980** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:33 am

Wappy its looking great mate cant wait for the next part

Post by **wappynutter** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:11 pm

Thanks Paul, so glad you enjoy my build mate.

Nige, thanks matey and you don't have to wait long for the next post up. Couple of days and I will give a little more..

Mr Coen sir thanks again for your continued support, I will listen more carefully to your videos from now on, usually I have a look as I am bitting and bobbing in the background, as my internet connection and YouTube aren't the best of friends and I find that my video time is very intermittent, with constant stop,start viewing.

I won't let you down though sir, I am going to push myself for the next part of this build and attempt a new build skill...

Thanks again guys, much appreciated..

Post by **wappynutter** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:14 am

Warning..Lots of waffle and pictures and a video in this post....
Well I am back again, only just over a week to go so need to get this log finished off and as I mentioned last time this post may be a little different to the usual.

.....but hopefully still entertaining and educational at the same time because today I am going to try something totally new and hopefully pull it off else my "popular" build may end up not so.....

Anyway I will stop worrying and get to it..

A post or so ago I mentioned Disney Jnr television channel and Mr Hamilkar Barkas' Youtube videos..
Often while looking after the kids while the wife is at work we end up with the Disney channels on and one of the new re-vamped programs from when I was younger is Art Attack, once Neil Buchannan's baby, recently upgraded and brought up to date with young fresh Disney presenters doing their thing.
More on this later as I am about to use a technique shown often and encouraged for arts and craftsy kids bored at home...
Anyways Mr Hamilkar often fetches dirt from his yard and creates fantastic, detailed dioramas for his figures and armour.
My Solar car has no figures and isn't a dirty, rusty killing machine but "needs" something more to finish it off.
Something I have never done before...........Until now....

I think I need a base that is "more" than just a piece of card with a logo on it....though I will still include this I need to construct a scene, or vignette to enhance, add interest, and also bring to life nothing more than a shiny piece of junk plastic.

I searched for ideas and looked into options and found the perfect scene..

During the 74 minute long PILOT episode, after escaping Francis 7. Logan and Jessica park up and ..... I will just show you it may be easier....

After escaping the domed city the pair spend the night in the observatory in New Washington where they discover the solar car and have to escape from Francis. While there they discover a map showing a Fallout shelter to the south east.

They after fleeing decide to head here to seek out survivors thinking it may be Sanctuary....
They stumble upon a rusty signpost showing the way but end up..... well you'll have to re watch the episode but theres my idea.....

Now I will try to show you what I mean in a video...
I captured and converted a 45 second clip showing this moment when they stop and find the signpost, then leave the Solar car to go to the Shelter door seeking survivors....

You may want to right click the image and open link in a new window or new tab as clicking to watch will redirect your ISM page meaning a refresh, retry when returning as I don't know how to link the Photo bucket mp4 file..

But after watching the clip you should see what I am gonna try to simulate, only simplify at the same time.
Remember I mentioned the cardboard and logo picture thing?Well....
I have "doctored" the 1976 Logan's run annual cover...( I have it as a collection of jpg pages )..

Right so I mentioned Hamilkar, Art Attack and a vignette.....
Lets go..
Art attack just love telling my kids how to make landscapes from rolled and taped in place newspaper and using "art attack paste!" 50/50 mix of PVA and water and torn up pieces of paper OR tissue build the landscape....
In my other hobby I paint landscapes and as I use watercolour my oil painting pre-stretched canvas boards don't get used..... they do now...

along with some Styrofoam packaging to give a base to build on....

Ready to begin landscaping on...

Taped in place..

....And cover in the glue mix and add torn paper to cover and strengthen...

Right I continue with total scratch base building and using some moulding trim from B&Q add a frame around the base to tidy it up....

Hmmm, still doesn't look like the scene on the pics and video clip yet.... Lets make a signpost...

Does it look right?

Just needs some weathering and some writing on it...

Remember that Logo I shown earlier? I am going to make a backdrop for the vignette which means more frame making....
I ain't NO carpenter...

I am using a broken LCD screen back piece and the plastic magnifying screen covering to hold and cover the image..

Adding some tree/bushes to the base to mark there positions as the thing dries..

Weathering the signpost...

Salted...

Still positioning and gluing bits on before I "Hamilkar" this base....

Signpost paint and weather ready to glue in place...

These are some of the Lilac pieces I harvested from the bush outside and Lacquered to retain there shape, tho their colour may change they wont drop the buds off..

And the twigs used from the hedgerow outside...

Stain it up before taping up and getting messy....

....and before I wrap up for another day, a quick print off for the signpost to complete it before the messy bit....

Next time the messy bit....
Sorry its been so long, hope I didn't lose you all on the way here...

Thanks for sticking with it, I did say this post was a longgggggggg one...
And as always, cheers for taking a look, hope you enjoyed the different post today..
More soon...

Post by **Coen** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:56 am

All of your posts are long Andy... just like all my vids are long.
It just takes guys like us... a long.... time..... to say..... anything.
Like Ents.

I didn't expect a diorama dude.
Holy cow, you're using almost every discipline that's available in scale modelling.
Next you'll be scratching figures out of potatoes.
This is again, phenomenal work.
I can't wait till the next update.

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:18 am

Damn dude this is awesome this is gonna be great.

Carn't wait for the final reveal.

Post by **Nige201980** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:27 am

Wow Wappy this is amazing always look forward to your posts it like im dying from thirst and then you dump a boat load of water on my and its great but i need the fix again and again this is truly great work mate.

Post by **wappynutter** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:19 am

Thanks guys, you put big smiles on my face with your comments and praises, and I haven't even muddied and grassed it up yet!!
I have that to do plus decals and some bits to glue up on the car, share some drawings and measurements, including a logo for the decals and then hopefully final reveal....

Maybe Monday for the diorama finish, Wednesday for the car and drawings then final reveal Thursday/Friday as I think the SiG build ends Saturday...

Thanks again and I noticed last night Photobucket went down so the video was dead, but it works now..... apart from on my tablet which even though it is an mp4, refuses to see it, recognise it and play it, so sorry to anyone who cant watch it.
Seems to work fine from my base unit and laptop/netbook though..

More soon, Thanks for dropping by...

Post by **DC87** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:40 am

Wow your skills are boundless, really impressive looking diorama given a great touch by the poster. You certainly have the essence of Neil Buchanan running through your veins

Post by **wappynutter** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:09 pm

WOW... times flying by guys...

So I am back again to show you this FIRST ever proper diorama base for the Solar car and for those who didn't watch the small video clip from the last post, I am creating a scene where after escaping in the car from pursuing Sandmen Logan stops and investigates a Fallout shelter in the vicinity of Greater Washington.
Okay where was we??
A before the mud and grassing picture..

...and I best show you all what I received in the post last week as well?

Rough meadow and Lichen scenic, nice and cheap at a couple of pounds each, and in the lower corner is my own long grass substitute, some off cuts from a hanging planter liner.

You know the matted grass type...

Now Hamilkars' mixture of garden soil, white glue, water and something to mix it in.. ( thanks Mr Barkas )

Shall we start? Oh look who put that logo there??

Now due to being a "work fast before in dries" type of application and me being eager and forgetting to photograph the muddy bits and sprinkling on and gluing of grass and lichen we suddenly end up with this....

Now I take it outside and knock off any loose, scatter the old tealeaves for dry stuff ( Thanks for the idea Dan )...
After this I use the wife's Firm hold hairspray again and cover it to "Fix" everything.. Even having "happy accidents" on the dirt track by overkill hairspray leaving dry whitish marks...

Hmmmm, hope you like it so far??
I will show the completed base in the Final reveal shots just to keep you all keen....

So that's it for tonight.
Next post will see the finish up of decals and extra bits on the car along with those drawn plans and logo pictures..

Till next post, as always thanks for dropping by and having a look.
Stay safe and Happy modelling guys.

Post by **DC87** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:14 pm

WARNING talented diorama maker in the vicinity - that is looking insane, I extend to you a generous well done

and it isn't even finished yet so you still have more of this masterpiece to show us

Post by **wappynutter** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:24 pm

Thanks DC, I think it turned out okay for a first try?

Post by **DC87** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:29 pm

wappynutter wrote: I think it turned out okay for a first try?

- OKAY doesn't come close to describing what you achieved with that groundwork. You have created different levels, points of interest, changes in texture and a nice variation of colour - looks like a perfect base to me

Post by **wappynutter** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:32 pm

DC87 wrote:
wappynutter wrote: I think it turned out okay for a first try?
- OKAY doesn't come close to describing what you achieved with that groundwork. You have created different levels, points of interest, changes in texture and a nice variation of colour - looks like a perfect base to me

Thanks again DC......

Big smile on my face again....

Post by **DC87** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:36 pm

wappynutter wrote:Thanks again DC......
Big smile on my face again....

My pleasure - that's what this hobby is all about, sitting back and grinning merrily from what we achieve/ produce no matter it's perfection/ imperfection.

Post by **Coen** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:31 am

Andy.. Like Dan the Man said... you nailed that Dio man.

It's fraking perfect. You did everything right buddy. Amazing.
Is there a discipline that you AREN'T going to try for this build? WOW!

Spectacular work buddy... really.

Post by **Nige201980** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:54 am

OMG WOW that is fantastic are you sure you did make it and not just dig it up an use a shrink ray or something it looks so real amazing wappy

Post by **Paul** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:23 am

That is one superb dio base mate, you should be proud of that, really can't wait to see it all together

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:07 pm

WOW. amazing work.

Ill just go hide under a rock.

Wish I could get a dip base to look that good.

Post by **wappynutter** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:13 pm

Wow... Thanks for the kind comments and praises guys....

I really didn't think it was that good, but having never attempted such a build I didn't really have anything to compare it too....
Thanks again, I will look after it and try to build better using it as the basis to improve upon.....

More updates soon...

Post by **Lee** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:08 pm

Smash that base....!!! Awesome work wappy

Post by **wappynutter** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:58 pm

Thanks Lee, glad you like it mate...

Right shall we wrap this up so I can post some final reveals up over the next couple of days??
I'll be sad to see it all end....

.......But I have another little build on the go now so wont be long till I'm posting again...

Right where was we? Diorama base? Check.... Car built? Check..... finishing touches? Nope...... lets go then..

So Decal/stickers...... handmade and rough as but.... they're mine...

Best get sticking them on then?
Blurred picture but there she is before .....

Cut out the tiny ones and placed them on the Nabi screen so not to lose them..

Little sticker time....

Got some spares cut out just in case...

Another job I haven't finished is the gluing of the Solar panel to the roof piece so a quick dip with CA glue and its on and in place, just needed clamping for a while to keep it down as the roof piece had started to curve for some reason??

Last piece for the car is the inflatable hovercraft type edge that inflates when the car rises off the ground..
Eagle eyed followers will have spotted the strip cut ready in front of the car on the last few pictures...

What I haven't ever mentioned is my last job was a flat roof fitter working under licence for Firestone fitting EPDM fireproof rubber roofs. Mostly dormer and extension flat roofs but the product was a rubber sheet with a 20 year guarantee....

Guess who kept small off cuts for patching leaks and Solar car skirt building ??

Take a small piece and a sharp knife, cutting a 7mm strip off..

Hot glue time..

Its blurry but here she is all finished.....

Hmmm, so maybe you'll have to wait for the final reveal for some clearer shots?

As promised here are some detailed drawings sporting the measurements and angles of all those awkward bits
Logo...

WOW..... bet those drove you insane?
They are all in a folder on my build Photo bucket account about 43 of them, all different close ups of certain bits on the a4 pages...

Hope you all still here because I think we have finally come to the end of this scratch build journey.

A first for ISM I believe, but hopefully not the last.
I can see loads of errors and build bits that could and should and will be better on the next build, but for now we'll call it done..

My aim has been to entertain, inform and encourage the ISM community, showing you all what.... ( if skilled, as I am not!! ) ...can be achieved with some imagination, risk taking and a bit of household junk..

I think I pulled it off, Thank you Nige for being inspired to have a go, and produce some EXCELLENT jet engine and cockpit detail using pie tins and cake packaging.

Various others have regularly dropped by with a comment encouraging me to keep at it.
Coen, DC87, Paul, Lee, Guppy and Nige to name a few..

I will post up some finished pictures soon but until then I just want to once again thank you for all the kind comments..

Heres to the next build......

Happy modelling guys..

Post by **Paul** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:08 pm

Absolutely fantastic andy, the level of detail and effort you have put into this build is fantastic. I've enjoyed reading every bit of it and am really looking forward to the end product.

Post by **Coen** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:17 am

This was a joy and a treat from beginning to end Andy
Well done buddy.
I'll certainly be looking forward to the final reveal.
It will be epic.

Post by **Nige201980** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:36 am

Andy loved every minute of this build mate your imagination hold no bounds fantastic work mate truly stunning mate.

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:30 am

I've really enjoyed watching this one come together.

Very impressed with your knack of turning anything into parts for your build.

Looking forward to the next one.

Post by **Lee** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:37 am

Nice one Andy, don't forget to do a reveal thread mate

Post by **wappynutter** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 8:56 am

Thanks again guys for your interest and support with the build....
Means a lot..

...and yeah final reveal will be real soon....... 147 pictures to choose a handful from as I went mad with the camera trying to get that perfect shot...

Post by **alextheblue** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:15 am

Andy, what an absolutely fantastic build, it is gob-smackingly good - in fact my gob has never been so smacked!!

Apologies for not posting any comments earlier, as I have followed this thread from the start. On holiday a couple of weeks ago, I even paid the hotels extortionate internet fees, just so I could keep up with your build, and may I say it was worth every penny. Sir, you are an inspiration and I will never again moan about trying to fit small parts or photo etch after seeing what you have done with everyday household items - absolute genius.

I must confess to not wanting to see this end, but at the same time can't wait to see the final reveal. But hang on, didn't you mention you had something else on to go.............

Post by **wappynutter** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:37 am

Thanks Alex.... So so glad you enjoyed my build mate.

I at first didn't think anyone would be interested in some guy using scrap plastic and household junk to model with.....
So glad I took the plunge and joined in with the SiG now.
Yeah its a little rough in places, a little more care and prep work wouldn't have gone amiss but I was keen, and excited about the finished build. I attempted my first diorama base and am happy with the finish.
Yes I have got a first plastic kit on the go.... An old tool revell 1/72 scale aircraft.
Very poor detail, raised panel lines, no cockpit detail etc... and small for 1/72 with a crazy camo so I will be posting that soon.... and yes there's scratch building...

Thanks again for your following and praises, sorry about the hotel WiFi charges....

Happy modelling...

Post by **alextheblue** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:51 am

No apologies needed, as I said it was worth every single penny and there was NO way I could have gone 2 weeks without an update!

Can't wait to see what else you've got up your sleeve.

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:58 pm

Tunning in a bit late, but.....
sir, are a AWESOME scrath builder!!!

Awesome build, love the way you pulled it of!

Even found some popcorn laying around here, taking some with me..

Loved reading this threat

Can't wait to see your next build!

Post by **wappynutter** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:33 pm

Thanks Frans...
...and yeah help yourself to the popcorn mate, I buy it in bulk now what with all these EPIC builds going on...

See! Bucket loads of the stuff...

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:43 pm

wappynutter wrote:Thanks Frans...
...and yeah help yourself to the popcorn mate, I buy it in bulk now what with all these EPIC builds going on...

See! Bucket loads of the stuff...

Don't mind taking some more than!

Butter anyone?

Post by **JayCub** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:51 pm

Just found your build Andy, i watched the film and the series, and it was great looking at your build log, im delighted i found the Sci-fi thread

Post by **wappynutter** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:24 am

WOW thanks Tom..... This is my winning entry for the SciFi SiG earlier in the year..
So glad you like it mate...

Hope you managed to find the final reveal post in the archives too!!
I am very proud of my Solar car and had an excellent time building and sharing with the community on ISM..
Good luck again with those superb eagles, will look out for the build thread detailing them..
Thanks again matey..