#19 The Flying Brick

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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Yah superb work on getting those belts done!

It's definitely going to be interesting to see how you go about buttoning this up and when the turrets get installed :think:
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Tomcat64 wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:30 am Yah superb work on getting those belts done!

It's definitely going to be interesting to see how you go about buttoning this up and when the turrets get installed :think:
We are just avoiding thinking about fuselage and turrets at the moment....keep calm and model on sort of thing :shifty:

So trying to figure the rear crew door and how it opens. Hunting though pics and it appears to open inward and towards the rear.
Here are my best research pics so far
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maybe not a Sterling??

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In all these photos with an open door, I see it looking like it is inward, no door on the external of the fuselage
So that is how I am going to do mine
Historians be gagged...looking at you Stokesy my friend ;)
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Found a couple more pics that seem to back up your theory about the way the crew door opens so I think you're definitely going the right way with that (usual disclaimers apply if someone that actually knows what they're talking about shows up!)
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Tomcat64 wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:01 pm Found a couple more pics that seem to back up your theory about the way the crew door opens so I think you're definitely going the right way with that (usual disclaimers apply if someone that actually knows what they're talking about shows up!)
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Awesomely good help :thumb2:
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You're wetting my appetite with this kit it's looking the biz


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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:03 pm Awesomely good help :thumb2:
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I still cant get over how high that thing sits on its wheels! :o

And what's all that ironmongery attached to the undercarriage? - looks like a real Heath Robinson affair! :lol:

Brilliant pictures too. You cant beat original images for the goosebump history effect!
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:53 pm I still cant get over how high that thing sits on its wheels! :o

And what's all that ironmongery attached to the undercarriage? - looks like a real Heath Robinson affair! :lol:

Brilliant pictures too. You cant beat original images for the goosebump history effect!
Ha ha there you are...flushed you out of the thicket :D
I had to look up Heath Robinson and that is a very appropriate comparison to that landing gear
My big girl has big mud flaps on her...I think there is a rap song like that :think:

I am procrastinating the fuselage close up as I know these gun turrets are going to be a PITA
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:53 pm I still cant get over how high that thing sits on its wheels! :o

And what's all that ironmongery attached to the undercarriage? - looks like a real Heath Robinson affair! :lol:

Brilliant pictures too. You cant beat original images for the goosebump history effect!
Ha ha there you are...flushed you out of the thicket :D
I had to look up Heath Robinson and that is a very appropriate comparison to that landing gear
My big girl has big mud flaps on her...I think there is a rap song like that :think:

I am procrastinating the fuselage close up as I know these gun turrets are going to be a PITA
you won't let that slow you down. Your working on a attack plan. Bet they get closed up Saturday or before :D :th: :cheers2:
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digger303 wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:12 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:53 pm I still cant get over how high that thing sits on its wheels! :o

And what's all that ironmongery attached to the undercarriage? - looks like a real Heath Robinson affair! :lol:

Brilliant pictures too. You cant beat original images for the goosebump history effect!
Ha ha there you are...flushed you out of the thicket :D
I had to look up Heath Robinson and that is a very appropriate comparison to that landing gear
My big girl has big mud flaps on her...I think there is a rap song like that :think:

I am procrastinating the fuselage close up as I know these gun turrets are going to be a PITA
you won't let that slow you down. Your working on a attack plan. Bet they get closed up Saturday or before :D :th: :cheers2:
Well yes I am working on a plan of attack :shifty:
I certainly don't just wing things and hope for the best, nope not me :shifty: :shifty:
Uhh yeah, really I DO know what I am doing...ish
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:16 pm
digger303 wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:12 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:02 pm

Ha ha there you are...flushed you out of the thicket :D
I had to look up Heath Robinson and that is a very appropriate comparison to that landing gear
My big girl has big mud flaps on her...I think there is a rap song like that :think:

I am procrastinating the fuselage close up as I know these gun turrets are going to be a PITA
you won't let that slow you down. Your working on a attack plan. Bet they get closed up Saturday or before :D :th: :cheers2:
Well yes I am working on a plan of attack :shifty:
I certainly don't just wing things and hope for the best, nope not me :shifty: :shifty:
Uhh yeah, really I DO know what I am doing...ish
Always the most fun that way :D
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Typical..... 16 odd pages of thread... and barely any plastic work going on.... :whistle:



But seriously mate, she is looking good so far
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Fridgy wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:15 am Typical..... 16 odd pages of thread... and barely any plastic work going on.... :whistle:



But seriously mate, she is looking good so far
Hey mate, I know where all my pieces are ;)
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:27 am
Fridgy wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:15 am Typical..... 16 odd pages of thread... and barely any plastic work going on.... :whistle:



But seriously mate, she is looking good so far
Hey mate, I know where all my pieces are ;)
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low blow there buddy :tongue:
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Fridgy wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:57 am
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:27 am
Fridgy wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:15 am Typical..... 16 odd pages of thread... and barely any plastic work going on.... :whistle:



But seriously mate, she is looking good so far
Hey mate, I know where all my pieces are ;)
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low blow there buddy :tongue:
Who, me???
I wouldn't shoot first ;) :D
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This is a funnier version of that Han shot first thing
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Apparently some truth to that as well they were knocking space boots
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:57 pm
Fridgy wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:57 am
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:27 am

Hey mate, I know where all my pieces are ;)
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I wouldn't shoot first ;) :D
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Nerfherder.... :eeek:
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So I have finished the front turret.
I added thin styrene strips on top of the glass to make reinforcing metal frame. Then some tiny drops of white glue on a pin to make the little rivets. Green paint and then a silver drybrush.
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Pretty happy with it, but it doesn’t fit if you don’t put the turret in before the fusealge sides go together. So I run the risk of destroying the barrels etc with filling seams, sanding and painting.

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Ooooh, that looks very nice! :th: :cheers2: Great job with that turret, hope you manage to get it all to fit together.
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alextheblue wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:40 am Ooooh, that looks very nice! :th: :cheers2: Great job with that turret, hope you manage to get it all to fit together.
:cheers2: Alex
Ya, I hope to figure that out, I want to get this fuselage buttoned up
Gonna just forge ahead and finish all the gun turrets, then brainstorm on how to get them in there :think:
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that turret does indeed look very nice, you should be very pleased with that! :th: :clap: :clap:

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good job on the turret not that you need me to say that, but it is nice. Be a shame to wreck them when your trying to close it up properly, filling seams and what not. I'm sure you will find a way. :th: :th: :cheers2:
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That turret looks beautiful.

Great work on the frame :clap: :clap: :clap:
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For 1/72 I'm impressed, brilliant looking turret.


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:cheers2: guys, thanks for the support :D

A Friday well spent, working on upper turret.
The upper turret kit glass has a crack and a round ejector pin mark on the inside :wall: :bash:
Found this pic of the nose one with a vent in the glass....so decided to use that and make a circular vent over the ejector pin area
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Covered most of the crack with the thin styrene framework, white glue rivets, paint, silver wash
A circle of Tamiya tape painted silver and then black felt pen wedges make the vent...Future added overtop of the tape to harden it and protect the felt pen. Entire turret gets a future dip as well.

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and then there was one.....Tail gun Charlie
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So tail gun Charlie
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This second pic IS a Sterling rear cannon
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I lopped off the guy’s torso, arms and legs to leave the grey circle and base for the gun
Then added 3 mm of styrene so that the clear glass comes out far enough to clear the gun...not sure how it would have worked otherwise
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The white areas will be opened up and the side glass added to them
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Now the guns will clear the front glass. Bit if clean up work left , but moving the right direction
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looks like those turrets are a real time consuming black hole.
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digger303 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:31 pm looks like those turrets are a real time consuming black hole.
A little bit, but I am getting the hang of them, so can see the light at the end of the tunnel
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I have fixed a warped side entry door frame, got that into a first layer of paint
Gone about the house spackling holes from dings and such...mostly mine

So every once in a while, I pop up and do a bit of the Sterling and then the motorcycle.
You got your fields all fertilized now??
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:10 am
digger303 wrote: Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:31 pm looks like those turrets are a real time consuming black hole.
A little bit, but I am getting the hang of them, socan see the light at the end of the tunnel
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I am super-multitasking this weekend.
Preparing reclaimed plywood for my workshop shelves....cutting, sanding, filling and now oil primed the boards. Lot is work!
I have fixed a warped side entry door frame, got that into a first layer of paint
Gone about the house spackling holes from dings and such...mostly mine

So every once in a while, I pop up and do a bit of the Sterling and then the motorcycle.
You got your fields all fertilized now??
My sister just bought a new house and it's got so many holes from where pictures had been hung it looks like some one has machine gunned the walls. So much spack filling to do then a repaint. Glad I live too far away.

So it sounds like you need a couple of days off work to get it all done. Yep all the fertizer is done and last night we got 1.48 inches of rain over 8 hrs so that was great. But we got a bit of wind damage before it arrived. Laid the crops over and gave it a bit of a sand blasting. It should recover Ok though.

How are you going to keep all the saw dust out of your Modeling area if your sharing the same space ? A movable plastic curtain ?

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digger303 wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:02 am

My sister just bought a new house and it's got so many holes from where pictures had been hung it looks like some one has machine gunned the walls. So much spack filling to do then a repaint. Glad I live too far away.

So it sounds like you need a couple of days off work to get it all done. Yep all the fertizer is done and last night we got 1.48 inches of rain over 8 hrs so that was great. But we got a bit of wind damage before it arrived. Laid the crops over and gave it a bit of a sand blasting. It should recover Ok though.

How are you going to keep all the saw dust out of your Modeling area if your sharing the same space ? A movable plastic curtain ?

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This is exactly the reason I commandeered an upstairs room. I cannot model and woodwork together, so will keep them separate.
The workshop will be for tinkering, leather and assembly woodwork. I will keep the big woodworking machines in the garage on wheels and make a mess in the driveway or garage.
The upstairs Nerd Lab will stay Models only but I have a project for a secondary spray booth in the workshop...with a furnace blower motor that can probably peel crome off a tail pipe.
I do need about two weeks holidays just to get all my home projects done....ain’t gonna happen this summer :wall:
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I think you clearly need to re assess your priorities Scott :lol: :lol:

The work on the turrets is outstanding, your work masking them off so as you don't cover it over will be incredible! :scratch:: :think: :bow::

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Quax wrote: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:38 am I think you clearly need to re assess your priorities Scott :lol: :lol:

The work on the turrets is outstanding, your work masking them off so as you don't cover it over will be incredible! :scratch:: :think: :bow::

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Blimey I've not been paying attention - awesome work on the turrets mate!

I really hope you figure out a way of getting the fuselage knocked into shape without bending them up - I guess front and rear are reasonably doable, but the mid-upper is a real challenge... :think:
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Tomcat64 wrote: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:05 am Blimey I've not been paying attention - awesome work on the turrets mate!

I really hope you figure out a way of getting the fuselage knocked into shape without bending them up - I guess front and rear are reasonably doable, but the mid-upper is a real challenge... :think:
I am dragging my azz detailing out the turrets to avoid fusealgeammegaddon.
SO far my best bet is sticking the gun barrels into foam and then tape up the turrets and cementing them in.
I keep fitting them one side at a time and then closing the fuselage so I can see where my challenge areas will be...and they are there
I might actually prime and paint the external areas directly around the three guns before the fuselage goes together
Lots to think about :think: :scratch:: :bash: :wall:
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digger303 wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:54 am
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
It is similar to pulling teeth :tongue:
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You'd hate the feeling worse if I don't inject ...my standard line :tongue:

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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:03 pm You'd hate the feeling worse if I don't inject ...my standard line :tongue:

Lidocaine or Articaine..... Novocaine is no longer used, obsolete many decades ago

I had a good laugh at the "Stay on Target " meme in the hornithopter post...hilarious :lol:
You are on a comedic roll today
I had a feeling it was out of date but went with it anyway :lol:
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Haven't memed properly in weeks... t'is good to meme again :tongue:
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Tomcat64 wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:37 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:03 pm You'd hate the feeling worse if I don't inject ...my standard line :tongue:

Lidocaine or Articaine..... Novocaine is no longer used, obsolete many decades ago

I had a good laugh at the "Stay on Target " meme in the hornithopter post...hilarious :lol:
You are on a comedic roll today
I had a feeling it was out of date but went with it anyway :lol:
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Haven't memed properly in weeks... t'is good to meme again :tongue:
Damn, I had that meme stored away for just the right occasion....you are on a roll
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Got the turrets installed and glued up the fuselage last night
No photos, she is all bound up in tape, clamps and rubber bands
Praying very hard for smooth seams as dealing with the surface rivets and panel lines will be a pain
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:51 pm Got the turrets installed and glued up the fuselage last night
No photos, she is all bound up in tape, clamps and rubber bands
Praying very hard for smooth seams as dealing with the surface rivets and panel lines will be a pain

When you say, "she's all bound up in tape, clamps and rubber bands", you are talking about the Stirling , right!?! :eeek: :eeek: :o
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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alextheblue wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:50 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:51 pm Got the turrets installed and glued up the fuselage last night
No photos, she is all bound up in tape, clamps and rubber bands
Praying very hard for smooth seams as dealing with the surface rivets and panel lines will be a pain

When you say, "she's all bound up in tape, clamps and rubber bands", you are talking about the Stirling , right!?! :eeek: :eeek: :o
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Holy cow, four pages deep...I have been working on her, honest :shifty:
She is 360* puttied up.....3M Bondo with MLT thinning itout and keeping a finer line of filler. I will tape the edges and scrape/sand it smooth.
I primed the tail parts Ultimate grey as well
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Some very nice work there mate
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Wow, totally missed your last update Scott. It's looking fantastic - so nice to see it almost ready for paint. It's always a really fun stage, knowing that the build is about to enter "phase 2". Keep up the good work :th:
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Re: #19 The Flying Brick

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Get the paint on, she's looking the biz now

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Re: #19 The Flying Bric

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Thanks gents :cheers2: :cheers2: :cheers2:
She is a ways away from paint yet unfortunately
I have finished with the seams on wings and tail, but the big centre fuselage seam is next..and then trying to re-create surface rivets and panel lines I destroyed.
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