Tamiya 1/35 Challenger 2

Post by **Coen** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:58 pm

Muhahahahaah!!!!!!

Wait. ... What bad things?
Is it about the wookie? He promised that he wouldn't tell. It was our little secret.

Post by **Coen** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:01 pm

I've never actually tried preshading before. I sorta just paint everything black. I'm curious to see how yours turns out. Looks pretty good so far.

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:29 pm

I did it on the AS90 as well, but after layers of varnish, camo stripes, wash etc the effect is somewhat lost. I have done it on planes and it works well, especially on lighter coloured planes.

Post by **schweinhund227** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:50 pm

the Pre-shading is very subtle ! NICE !

Keep up the good work !

Post by **chief5437** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:54 pm

Hey Gav, just watched your vid about why you model. What is your mates channel called again? I couldn't find it on YouTube. Sorry for hijacking your thread!

Post by **Coen** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:03 am

here ya go dude
http://www.youtube.com/user/Privatemode ... ture=watch

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:08 am

Yeah, what he ^ said lol. I don't know him personally, but he asked if I would do a shout out in my next vid, so was happy to oblige.

I got some more paint down last night on the Challenger. I think (apart from the roadwheels) that the basecoat is now done on everything. I am thinking about adding some Vallejo Dark Sand to the Sand Yellow I have used as the base colour to then lighten some parts, but I will check how this looks against the AS90 first in terms of colour. Its not strictly correct for BATUS vehicles, their sand colour is a touch lighter, but I want this to more match my AS90 than anything.

Next step will be to get the camo stripes on. However that will entail bluetacking all the side skirt sections on, and the fuel drums on the back etc to ensure pattern continuity across the vehicle. They can then come off again as I can't get the tracks on if I glue the skirts on, and if I glue the fuel drums on then it blocks painting access to the details on the rear of the hull.

C&C welcome.

Post by **Coen** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:34 am

Wow... that post shading seems to have worked out just fine.
She looks awesome Gav!
Painting with sub-assemblies is always a pain.
But it is what it is and we always soldier on.
Great work Dude.

Post by **NovYank** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:23 pm

Great work so far man!!!

That pre-shading has a good affect on the kit. Can't wait to see more!!

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:46 pm

So tonights antics were sort of ok, but also sort of not.....

So I got the camo airbrushed on without too much trouble, but I have yet to figure out the proper psi and paint consistency to enable to me to freehand airbrush camo without getting splatter and overspray. I have also noticed that the paint dries very very quickly on the needle of this airbrush and builds up.

Coen - any tips on how to stop that? I have Vallejo Retarder Medium, but I don't think it works very well.

Anyway here is what I got done

And the reason I now need to mask some bits with blue tack and go over the camo edges again.....

Bloody overspray and fingerprints! Going to have to sand this bit back a little when its dry and do it again. Now you can see why in the end preshading isn't that noticeable! All the extra coats fixing mistakes etc.

I am happy with the general camo, just need to spend some time over the weekend sorting out the edges. I don't want them hard edged, so will get the blue tack out and sort it.

C&C welcome.

Post by **Paul** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:54 pm

Fairly thin paint, and and 25 psi is how I do it, thats with a H&S Evo though.

Post by **Coen** » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:24 pm

With that brush and all my other badgers they work best at lower pressures than others. I ran that one with 12-15psi most of the time with a 60% paint to 40% thinner ratio.
That was with model master acrylics thinned with x20a.
I never had a problem with it at those settings.

Post by **russ2471** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:22 am

Fingerprints aside, looking good mate, ya gotta love the BATUS camo scheme

Post by **chief5437** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:39 pm

Yeah, I agree ^^ looks cool!

Post by **NovYank** » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:24 pm

Now you understand how I got my opinion on painting 3-tone NATO camo scheme lol. Sad about the fingerprints, but at least it's fixable.

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:48 pm

Cheers guys. Right so now that my GB entry is done I can get back to this.

I think an evenings effort should get the camo sorted out, meaning I can move on to painting details and pin washing etc.

I need to go through and blue tack mask the camo edges and re-do them to get a neater edge than I had, as well as fixing some overspray etc.

Post by **schweinhund227** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:43 pm

are you not afraid of leaving glue residue with the BLUE TACK mask ???? just the name freaks me out ... don't you mean Silly Putty ?? Blue tack is pretty hard core stuff...

Let me know ...

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:46 pm

Don't know if you can get silly putty here in the UK? Blue tack has worked ok for me before. I might have another go first of touching things up freehand, most of it is ok, its just the last camo stripe on the turret that needs some work.

Post by **schweinhund227** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:48 pm

Ok if you say so !

I only used that stuff to hold posters on walls... and its is stiff as hell.

was wondering how it behaved around fine and delicate parts...

Keep us posted on your progress dude !

Later !

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:52 pm

I used it to do the camo on my Mosquito with no trouble. Its quite low tack really, and luckily didn't seem to leave greasy marks, and if it did, they were hidden under the varnish coat.

Will keep you all updated. I think if I can get some work done tonight I will get a video update done as well.

Post by **Tiger131** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:10 pm

nive preshading buddy

Post by **Coen** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:40 pm

I've used both blue tack and silly putty with out any trouble Norm. The tack has never lifted a part or paint yet, and I don't use primer.
It might be a brand issue, I just use the cheap crap they sell at Sobey's (a grocery chain in Canada).

Post by **Paul** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:47 pm

Gav0909 wrote:I used it to do the camo on my Mosquito with no trouble. Its quite low tack really, and luckily didn't seem to leave greasy marks, and if it did, they were hidden under the varnish coat.

Will keep you all updated. I think if I can get some work done tonight I will get a video update done as well.

Gav use white tack as opposed to blue tack as its not oil based so won't leave any residue at all, and it's the same price as blue tack.

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:49 pm

I have some white tack, but its so used that its uber sticky now, and its more hassle than its worth to use it! Got some blue tack that didn't leave any marks when I tried it on the Chally, so if I need to use anything I will use that.

Cheers

Post by **schweinhund227** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:55 pm

Well I have some leaks and over-spray "touch ups" to do on the T-90 and I will give this a "try" versus trying to mask with Tape again... Hard to follow Camo lines and all...

I will report the results and Give my

or

Since I never done it.... there will be a steep learning curve ! but I welcome the new technique addition to my Arsenal !

Thanks for sharing !

Post by **Coen** » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:16 pm

I hope it didn't go totally pear shaped on you Norm!
Nothing unfixable?

Post by **schweinhund227** » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:10 am

No no.... It's all going to be OK!

Just a little too "Disco" for my taste
Till I get it tone down! LOL

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:52 pm

Ok so I thought it was high time I got back to this and try to clear it off the "WIP" shelf and get it ready for the finished shelf.

I got the airbrush out and sorted out the overspray issues etc and neatened up some other areas. I then painted in some of the various details on the hull and turret, got the wheels painted and got a coat of Klear on. As I type this I am pin washing the tank, which I will then clean up. I then need to mask off and paint the black panels BATUS vehicles have for their ID numbers. Then decals, and a matt coat and the tank itself should be done. I then need to paint the tracks.

Some pictures!

Cheers

Post by **schweinhund227** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:55 pm

I like the textured anti slip paint... awesome....

Need a little Dull coat but I know that's coming sooner or later...

all the best to ya !

Post by **Coen** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:37 am

Yeah that anti-slip really came out well Gav.
She's freaking awesome looking so far.
I'm badly tempted to pick one up... sigh... this forum is terrible.

But your tank's not!!!

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:53 pm

Cheers guys. Coen, go on go on! This is a lovely kit to build. One day I will get it again and actually build it up with all the extra armour etc and paint it up in a desert scheme.

So more progress.

The black areas on the side skirts and turret were masked and sprayed.

BATUS vehicle carry these to make the vehicle ID's easy to see. I don't want to overload the vehicle with markings, so have used some decals from the kit for the turret markings, but left the hull ones blank. Looking through references, it seems that its not uncommon for this to occur.

Some aerials were added using stretched sprue

Then the model was matt coated (literally just had enough matt varnish left to finish the model) and the lenses etc were all uncovered.

The orange beacon was painted using Tamiya Clear Orange and then stuck on

Exhaust staining

Dusting of sand colour over the lower hull etc

How she looks with her tracks on (they are yet to be painted)

WIP crew

Comments are most welcome.

Post by **Coen** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:22 pm

The only comment I have for ya Gav is WOW!
That looks spectacular buddy. I love the black panels with no decals, it adds an element of uniqueness.
I can't remember, are you doing a diorama with this?

Post by **Paul** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:57 pm

That's looking great gav

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:00 pm

Cheers Coen, nope no diorama with this. Not one for normally doing dioramas, no space or anything for them. Tbh the M10 one was my first dio.

Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:22 am

If didn't already know that you would have fooled me dude. It was spectacular!

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:52 pm

Cheers dude.

No pictures just now, but I got a coat of primer on the outside of the tracks last night, so tonight I will get the rest done then perhaps give them their paint (just a bit of a metallic look to the track connector ends, and the guide teeth, then a dusting all over).

I got the uniform on one of the crew done. I am not 100& happy with it, but tbh you won't see most of it anyway when its in place on the model. I will get the 2nd one done and show you them both together.

Post by **Coen** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:36 pm

Cool buddy. I'll be looking forward to it.

Post by **Lee** » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:25 pm

That's looking very good mate

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:42 am

This is now finished, final pictures and a link to a youtube video will be up in the Land Gallery section as well as my Youtube section.

Cheers!

Post by **Coen** » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:22 am

Yeah Gav!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/longlance67 · Post by **longlance67** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:53 pm

Gav, just been catching up on this build...better late than never

really nice work mate, really like the non slip textures, the neat paint jobs and anti-blind coating on the periscopes

great work

Shane