Tomcat's 1/35 Trumpeter BR86 Dampflokomotive

[Stokesy44]

Beautiful work. Hopefully with those reference pics the resin will fall into place and look awesome.

Even as a base kit, without the extras it looks like a great buy. The extras just take it to the next level.

[Kevthemodeller]

I think Neil's been bitten by the train bug, resin parts

[Stokesy44]

I think Neil's been bitten by the train bug, resin parts

Me thinks more choo choos in the young man's future?

[digger303]

I think Neil's been bitten by the train bug, resin parts

Me thinks more choo choos in the young man's future?

I do hope so

[Garion77]

wow this an amazing build. so much details. and a great subject. details are well above my pay grade ! Far too good for me and what I'm able to do ! and you're pretty good with all the PE and resin. Because alhought I do love the details they always add to a model, I think CA glue is a pain to work with !
Keep on with the good work. It's really and interesting thread to follow.

[Tomcat64]

What you don't innately know where all those bits and bobs go??

Resin detail sets drive me crazy with their constant lack of instruction or detailed photos
You are making a masterpiece

Beautiful work. Hopefully with those reference pics the resin will fall into place and look awesome.

Even as a base kit, without the extras it looks like a great buy. The extras just take it to the next level.

I think Neil's been bitten by the train bug, resin parts

Cheers guys - the resin bits are certainly adding "something" to the experience

I think Neil's been bitten by the train bug, resin parts

Me thinks more choo choos in the young man's future?

I do hope so

It's a distinct possibility - I'd love to build the BR52 but need to find space to display this one first

wow this an amazing build. so much details. and a great subject. details are well above my pay grade ! Far too good for me and what I'm able to do ! and you're pretty good with all the PE and resin. Because alhought I do love the details they always add to a model, I think CA glue is a pain to work with !
Keep on with the good work. It's really and interesting thread to follow.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting mate

Nothing much to report at the moment as the additional bits I ordered for the cab haven't shown up yet (should have been here yesterday but now scheduled for Monday). So I've given the engineering team the weekend off.

Buuuuut this did turn up so it looks like the permanent way gang might have something to do tomorrow

[digger303]

T- Model produces a track that you can curve.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/t-model ... l--1221712
I reckon using this it would be possible to produce a turn out.
Plus Miniart do the rail lighting,power poles and pedestrian bridges.....it's a huge rabbit hole.

[Stokesy44]

T- Model produces a track that you can curve.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/t-model ... l--1221712
I reckon using this it would be possible to produce a turn out.
Plus Miniart do the rail lighting,power poles and pedestrian bridges.....it's a huge rabbit hole.

Yes, he should definitely do that..........

[digger303]

T- Model produces a track that you can curve.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/t-model ... l--1221712
I reckon using this it would be possible to produce a turn out.
Plus Miniart do the rail lighting,power poles and pedestrian bridges.....it's a huge rabbit hole.

Yes, he should definitely do that..........

[Tomcat64]

T- Model produces a track that you can curve.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/t-model ... l--1221712
I reckon using this it would be possible to produce a turn out.
Plus Miniart do the rail lighting,power poles and pedestrian bridges.....it's a huge rabbit hole.

Yes, he should definitely do that..........

Ok, ok - when I win the lottery and have a mansion with its own display room I promise to try & build a marshalling yard ok??

[digger303]

T- Model produces a track that you can curve.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/t-model ... l--1221712
I reckon using this it would be possible to produce a turn out.
Plus Miniart do the rail lighting,power poles and pedestrian bridges.....it's a huge rabbit hole.

Yes, he should definitely do that..........

Ok, ok - when I win the lottery and have a mansion with its own display room I promise to try & build a marshalling yard ok??

Sounds fair...you will buy a ticket ??

[Tomcat64]

Yes, he should definitely do that..........

Ok, ok - when I win the lottery and have a mansion with its own display room I promise to try & build a marshalling yard ok??

Sounds fair...you will buy a ticket ??

[Tomcat64]

Ok - this has slowed down a little over the last couple of weeks but hopefully I can get it back on the rails soon...

The Eduard cab set turned up and I made a start installing the PE plate work.

Obviously this was designed to be fitted to the panels before they were assembled but I'm having a go at a retrofit - what could possibly go wrong...

So in this shot I've added the floor (had to warp the PE slightly to get it around the firebox). Also the panel for the front wall has been cut into three parts as there was no way I was going to get that in place in one go... oh and the original window frames were sanded out before adding those two panels


So next question - could I tidily clip off the pipes and then slide the centre plate into place without completely screwing everything up before connecting them back up again?


Yep - more or less

So that was enough faffing about with PE for one session so I switched over to building the buffer stop... here are the instructions


And the relevant parts


And aside from the usual & expected sanding of mould lines that you always seem to get on Miniart kits it went together pretty well


Finally my brother was kind enough to sand down an MDF plinth for this, but when I gave him the measurements I hadn't ordered the buffer stop... so would it all fit?


Just

I'll rearrange the sleepers to get a sleeper at each end and then look at securing things to the base - the sleepers & rails from the Miniart box are slightly smaller than the Trumpy ones so I'm going to use the kit rails for the track and use the Miniart ones for scenery.

Oh and there's still space on the plinth for a dirt track so I'll be adding a couple of figs & a small vehicle to provide the sense of scale for the finished item - I have a couple of Kettenkrads in the stash that would probably do the trick


Finally we went out to play with the full sized railway again at the weekend - it was a bit...errrr... damp


That's all for now - thanks as always for looking

[digger303]

This is coming together so nice.

There are many different styles of bumper stop. Do you know where each type is used...cause I have no idea and I have 2 a concrete one and that Miniart one you have ?

Not knowing what the Eduard update consists of I thought I would share what the Voyager drivers Cab for the Br52 looks like.
Around 6 months work I estimate.

[Tomcat64]

This is coming together so nice.

There are many different styles of bumper stop. Do you know where each type is used...cause I have no idea and I have 2 a concrete one and that Miniart one you have ?

Not knowing what the Eduard update consists of I thought I would share what the Voyager drivers Cab for the Br52 looks like.
Around 6 months work I estimate.

Yep sorry - realised when I came to make that last post I hadn't taken any photos of the Eduard set so here it is - just the four sheets of PE and a bit of acetate for this one


Regarding the buffer stops I don't really know to be honest, I guess it depended on what resources were available. The Miniart one is made up of bits of rail welded & bolted together with a couple of wooden beams. My guess would be that the concrete type ones would be more likely in munitions dumps or industrial areas but it really is just guessing.

[digger303]

I like the colored pieces in the Eduard Pe a definite better way of getting a nice result.

[Stokesy44]

That is beautiful PE work on the cab Sir. Especially allowing for the build of the cab before you put the PE in!

[Kevthemodeller]

It just keeps getting better mate yet more lovely PE work there Neil

[Tomcat64]

I like the colored pieces in the Eduard Pe a definite better way of getting a nice result.

Yah - I was thinking about that - I guess I should probably mask them up before I install them

I think I'm also going to have to get a bit creative about how & when I install the windows as well.

That is beautiful PE work on the cab Sir. Especially allowing for the build of the cab before you put the PE in!

It just keeps getting better mate yet more lovely PE work there Neil

Thanks chaps!

The PE is a little warped & messy in places where I've had to wedge it in but I think it'll look ok once I've smothered it in paint

[Twokidsnosleep]

I agree
Just keeps getting better and better
That photo of her on the tracks on the base stand are just a hint to how good this is going to finish off

[digger303]

I came across this and thought I would throw it up on the board. It is a Br-52 in 1/72, but looks great and more detail than I thought Hobbyboss would provide.
https://railroadmodeling.net/news/br-52 ... -szymanski

[Stokesy44]

I came across this and thought I would throw it up on the board. It is a Br-52 in 1/72, but looks great and more detail than I thought Hobbyboss would provide.
https://railroadmodeling.net/news/br-52 ... -szymanski

Looks a beauty with a stunning faded paint job.

[Kevthemodeller]

Looks a beauty with a stunning faded paint job.

What he said,
I'm seriously thinking of building one of these, always liked a good puffer

[Tomcat64]

I agree
Just keeps getting better and better
That photo of her on the tracks on the base stand are just a hint to how good this is going to finish off

Cheers mate - sorry I didn't spot your post before

I came across this and thought I would throw it up on the board. It is a Br-52 in 1/72, but looks great and more detail than I thought Hobbyboss would provide.
https://railroadmodeling.net/news/br-52 ... -szymanski

Well that's stunning - mine is going back in the box now!

I think the Hobbyboss kits are a direct scale down from the Trumpy ones as they have the exact same three locos available in 1/72 as Trumpy in 1/35.

I'd love to build the BR52 so I'll probably pick up the 1/72 version just due to lack of display space!

[Tomcat64]

Still on the slow line with this one but I have made a little progress with PE & resin bits.

Is it just me that can spend a whole afternoon at the bench swearing at PE and then look at my progress at the end of the day and think I've not done much!

Anyway - here's a couple of photos from the past week or so. One thing I'll be upfront about here is that I've bodged this together as best I can from the references I've got available so this should in no way be taken as accurate - more of a "representation" really and should hopefully give the right effect through the windows once it's all together


PE continued to be bent and "encouraged" into place... as you can see I've also added some cabling to be attached to some fiddly bits later on and I decided to add the glazing for the windows as I went along using the PE frames as a guide for cutting the masks.


And here are the aforementioned fiddly bits installed & cabled up - I needed to scratch build a small panel to attach some of them to.


So I think I've crammed as much in here as I can - I do have a couple of sliding window panels to build but they'll be installed once they're painted


I then thought I'd make a start on the rear wall of the cab but promptly lost a couple of parts to the carpet monster so decided that was a sign to finish for the day! I did finally track the missing bits down later so it looks like the carpet monster prefers styrene to PE

Finally I did some work on the base last week - the sleeper sections are glued in place, I've added some kerbing and then a layer of vallejo textured earth paint to make a start on the track.


This has subsequently received a coat of Tamiya primer from a rattle can as it's too big to fit in the spray booth.

That's all for now - thanks as always for checking in

[digger303]

I agree
Just keeps getting better and better
That photo of her on the tracks on the base stand are just a hint to how good this is going to finish off

Cheers mate - sorry I didn't spot your post before

I came across this and thought I would throw it up on the board. It is a Br-52 in 1/72, but looks great and more detail than I thought Hobbyboss would provide.
https://railroadmodeling.net/news/br-52 ... -szymanski

Well that's stunning - mine is going back in the box now!

I think the Hobbyboss kits are a direct scale down from the Trumpy ones as they have the exact same three locos available in 1/72 as Trumpy in 1/35.

I'd love to build the BR52 so I'll probably pick up the 1/72 version just due to lack of display space!

...Very funny
I'm going to build mine one day super tricked out. I have a tonne of PE and resin to spruce it up. However at the moment as it is a prized build to do I want to up my skills a bit first. No it will happen I assure you.

Still on the slow line with this one but I have made a little progress with PE & resin bits.

Is it just me that can spend a whole afternoon at the bench swearing at PE and then look at my progress at the end of the day and think I've not done much!

Anyway - here's a couple of photos from the past week or so. One thing I'll be upfront about here is that I've bodged this together as best I can from the references I've got available so this should in no way be taken as accurate - more of a "representation" really and should hopefully give the right effect through the windows once it's all together


PE continued to be bent and "encouraged" into place... as you can see I've also added some cabling to be attached to some fiddly bits later on and I decided to add the glazing for the windows as I went along using the PE frames as a guide for cutting the masks.


And here are the aforementioned fiddly bits installed & cabled up - I needed to scratch build a small panel to attach some of them to.


So I think I've crammed as much in here as I can - I do have a couple of sliding window panels to build but they'll be installed once they're painted


I then thought I'd make a start on the rear wall of the cab but promptly lost a couple of parts to the carpet monster so decided that was a sign to finish for the day! I did finally track the missing bits down later so it looks like the carpet monster prefers styrene to PE

Finally I did some work on the base last week - the sleeper sections are glued in place, I've added some kerbing and then a layer of vallejo textured earth paint to make a start on the track.


This has subsequently received a coat of Tamiya primer from a rattle can as it's too big to fit in the spray booth.

That's all for now - thanks as always for checking in

It looks stunning I love those handles on the wheel valves hidden away down the side there. There is a a lot of nice stuff being done, but I really like them....yeah I'm officially weird..

[Stokesy44]

Beautiful work on the cab PE. Great to see it all joined up and plumbed in. All that panel detail will look superb when the paint goes on.

[Kevthemodeller]

Yet more lovely PE work and nice cabling and window detail Neil

[Tomcat64]

It looks stunning I love those handles on the wheel valves hidden away down the side there. There is a a lot of nice stuff being done, but I really like them....yeah I'm officially weird..

Just a couple more notes for you in case you face a similar challenge when you get to your cab:
I think the "thingy" that those wheel valves are attached to should replace the block that they're glued to... maybe...

Also I spotted later that the three cables should actually run up the front wall rather than just being buried out of the way in the corner like I've done it.

Ok and the grease pump (square block thingy on the boiler) should have a mounting tray arrangement, but again didn't spot that until after I'd decided to apply lashings of CA to attach it to the front of the firebox.

Beautiful work on the cab PE. Great to see it all joined up and plumbed in. All that panel detail will look superb when the paint goes on.

Yet more lovely PE work and nice cabling and window detail Neil

Thanks chaps - it finally feels like I'm getting to the end of the build now

[Twokidsnosleep]

Fantastic
PE is such a fickle temptress.
Can be spectacular and easy to apply or completely unyielding and not participate in fitting in any way shape or form.
It also likes to fly away and hide never to be found
When searching on the floor, I often ask the part “ do you want to stay down here in the dark or do you want to be on the model”
Sometimes the bit will then just jump into my sight

[Quax]

I'm now firmly convinced that this is your best model yet, there are no superlas that are lative left and my ghast is long since flabbered

Paul

[Stokesy44]

I'm now firmly convinced that this is your best model yet, there are no superlas that are lative left and my ghast is long since flabbered

Paul

[DRUMS01]

Tomcat, I am beyond amazed at the detail in this 1/1200 scale kit!

Seriously, regardless of scale, this kit along with your build is fantastic.

Ben

[Tomcat64]

Fantastic
PE is such a fickle temptress.
Can be spectacular and easy to apply or completely unyielding and not participate in fitting in any way shape or form.
It also likes to fly away and hide never to be found
When searching on the floor, I often ask the part “ do you want to stay down here in the dark or do you want to be on the model”
Sometimes the bit will then just jump into my sight

Thanks mate - you're right PE is one of those Jekyll & Hyde things - when it behaves it's great but when the winds in the wrong direction it can be a bloody nightmare!

I'll give your search technique a go next time a teeny bit goes overboard!

I'm now firmly convinced that this is your best model yet, there are no superlas that are lative left and my ghast is long since flabbered

Paul

Thanks Paul - that's really kind of you to say so.

I need to drench it in paint soon so there's still a chance of this turning into a Barry Scrapyard job

Tomcat, I am beyond amazed at the detail in this 1/1200 scale kit!

Seriously, regardless of scale, this kit along with your build is fantastic.

Ben

Thanks Ben - although this one is definitely 1/35, I think trying to do this at 1/1200 would send me even more cross eyed

[Garion77]

Really nice work again ! And as everyone says my god with the PE ! My hat to you as I hate working with CA glue !
When you say it's not accurate who cares ! It's full of details and looks real ! the only one who you know it is someone who would have driven it ! Good luck finding one !
Nice work and keep safe !

[Tomcat64]

Really nice work again ! And as everyone says my god with the PE ! My hat to you as I hate working with CA glue !
When you say it's not accurate who cares ! It's full of details and looks real ! the only one who you know it is someone who would have driven it ! Good luck finding one !
Nice work and keep safe !

Thanks Francis

For the PE in this build I've used PVA where I can as it's a little more forgiving, but for the smaller parts I've had to resort to CA - in this case I've used Deluxe Materials CA Gel as it does give a little more time to work before setting hard.

[Tomcat64]

Welcome to another episode of "Swearing with PE"

This week I tackled the bunker and started off by carefully removing the doors & handrails to make access to the bulkhead easier. Thankfully I got away with that without any noticeable damage and then removed the bunker door and cut & sanded off the necessary raised detail. And then took an out of focus pic


The main PE plates were added, and the new bunker doors fitted in place.


Then built up the additional details over a couple of sessions - the bunker doors look a little messy where the CA hasn't behaved but I think it'll look ok once it's under paint


So with the bunker done, that just leaves the cab roof to get some PE attention this week.

In amongst this I also deployed my neglected airbrush and sprayed some Ultimate black primer on the chassis & running gear. The good news is that this assembly does just fit in the spray booth on a turntable with a couple of mm clearance at each end. I've done a couple of coats so far, one from the top & one from the bottom to try and get everything covered. I'll let that dry off properly and then do a visual check & correction to any areas I've missed.


Finally for this update we went out on Saturday evening and captured this on the mainline about 15 mins from home. For those interested in the details the locomotive is "Clan Line", a 4-6-2 Southern Region "Merchant Navy" class built in 1948.


Thanks as always for looking

[digger303]

You had me wondering what you were talking about with the bunker and after scrolling down the pic it hit me right between the eyes...It's what I used to know as the firebox.... on me. Love the way this is growing and reassuring to see that the boiler can be left off to paint the running gear.

[BigWall]

I'm out of words! This is going to be amazing!

[Stokesy44]

That's some lovely PE work there mate. Nice to some primer going down on the undercarriage too.

Good to see you go full trainspotter at the end with that beautiful pic of that restored beast

[BigWall]

The Big Boy locomotive is going to be coming thru Denver in a couple weeks on it's way back to Cheyenne. My friends sister used to date the guy who operates it so we have inside info on when it's coming in and leaving a couple days later. I can't wait to see it

[digger303]

The Big Boy locomotive is going to be coming thru Denver in a couple weeks on it's way back to Cheyenne. My friends sister used to date the guy who operates it so we have inside info on when it's coming in and leaving a couple days later. I can't wait to see it

[Kevthemodeller]

Looking good Neil

PE can be a right pain at times I switched to soldering a lot of parts rather than CA. Once you get the hang of it it's much better than CA especially edge to edge seems e.g. mudguards. You do need a quality iron and solder, once mastered it's cleaner, far stronger and you can release any part simply by reheating

[Tomcat64]

You had me wondering what you were talking about with the bunker and after scrolling down the pic it hit me right between the eyes...It's what I used to know as the firebox.... on me. Love the way this is growing and reassuring to see that the boiler can be left off to paint the running gear.

Cheers mate - this might be a case of being separated by a common language but for me the firebox is the bit at the end of the boiler at the front of the cab:


And what I've been referring to as the "bunker" is the bit at the back which holds the coal at the rear of the cab (so the equivalent of the tender on the BR52)


And yep being able to leave the boiler off the frames is a major help with painting up the subassemblies - it might cause a few mini-headaches & touch-ups when I bolt it all together but definitely think this might be the easier way to go.

I'm out of words! This is going to be amazing!

Thanks Joe

That's some lovely PE work there mate. Nice to some primer going down on the undercarriage too.

Good to see you go full trainspotter at the end with that beautiful pic of that restored beast

Thanks mate - and yep enjoying getting out again! We're planning to visit the local railway again on Monday so hopefully I'll have some more shots from then

The Big Boy locomotive is going to be coming thru Denver in a couple weeks on it's way back to Cheyenne. My friends sister used to date the guy who operates it so we have inside info on when it's coming in and leaving a couple days later. I can't wait to see it

Awesome - please post some pics up if you manage to get some!

Looking good Neil

PE can be a right pain at times I switched to soldering a lot of parts rather than CA. Once you get the hang of it it's much better than CA especially edge to edge seems e.g. mudguards. You do need a quality iron and solder, once mastered it's cleaner, far stronger and you can release any part simply by reheating

Thanks Kev, I did think about investing in an iron but for the amount of PE work I do I decided to stick with glue for now (pardon the pun) If I see another PE-fest looming in the future I might reassess that though!

[digger303]

You had me wondering what you were talking about with the bunker and after scrolling down the pic it hit me right between the eyes...It's what I used to know as the firebox.... on me. Love the way this is growing and reassuring to see that the boiler can be left off to paint the running gear.

Cheers mate - this might be a case of being separated by a common language but for me the firebox is the bit at the end of the boiler at the front of the cab:


And what I've been referring to as the "bunker" is the bit at the back which holds the coal at the rear of the cab (so the equivalent of the tender on the BR52)


And yep being able to leave the boiler off the frames is a major help with painting up the subassemblies - it might cause a few mini-headaches & touch-ups when I bolt it all together but definitely think this might be the easier way to go.

Yep I got the wrong end of the stick and didn't know what I was looking at. Makes much more sense now to me.

[Tomcat64]

Soooooo... I think I finally finished playing with PE & Resin bits on this build

Here's the interior of the roof panel with the last of the Eduard PE kit in place and another bit of cabling added for the light


With that done I started priming... and then realised that someone had forgotten to add a couple of final details


Must have been the cat... she's far too casual about all this...


So with that sorted I primed the boiler & cab in stages - after I left this to dry overnight I spotted that I'd missed a couple of areas so I'll fix that this week when I prime the water tanks as well


Cab roof & bunker also covered in Ultimate black


And since the running gear was primed last week that got a couple of coats of Vallejo Model Air Anthracite grey - this still needs a couple more coats to complete coverage (mainly underneath)


And then yesterday I made some more progress on the base; the sleepers were base coated with old wood and then given black washes to age them a bit, the trackway was treated to a mix of MIG pigments and sealed with some thin PVA, and the kerbing was picked out in rubber grey.


Next will be adding the ballast and sorting out the rails to the base and continuing to base coat the loco.

Thanks as always for looking

[Garion77]

Really impressive progress since I last check ! Hope you celebrated with a good beer the end of the PE !!



Take Care !

[Stokesy44]

Beautiful priming.

I love the PE in the roof panel. It looks so RIGHT!

You know like when you see part of a kit and it just looks the business. Superb work.

[RangerNeil]

This is a hell of a build!! So much so that it almost tempts me to have a go at a steam loco!
It really is an impressive piece of work - especially the PE and resin detailing.

[Kevthemodeller]

Love smooth primer there Neil, good enough to leave as top coat and just weather it

Tracks are looking good