Border Models 1/32 Lancaster - Reviews/Comments

[onemac]

Please post all your comments about the BM 1/32 Lancaster in this thread and if you wish to comment on the legalities then go HERE.

Thanks

Al

[RangerNeil]

Just heard from AmmoMig they are expecting deliveries in June!! Watch this space...

https://www.migjimenez.com/en/preorder/ ... erior.html

[RangerNeil]

For those interested here are some - rather enthusiastic - build reviews.

Inbox review


Part 1 - Engines


Part 2 - Engines and bombs


Part 3 - Cockpit


Part 4 - Dummy build


Part 5 - Interior


Part 6 - Turret


Part 7 - Bomb bay


Part 8 - Rear fuselage & Landing gear bays


Part 9 - Landing gear, Inner Wing assembly.


Part 10 - Landing gear, Inner wings to fuselage.


Part 11 - Wing assembly


Part 12 - More wing assembly & a missing part


Part 13 - Outer wings, tailplane and outer to inner wing join


Part 14 - Engines and Propellers


Bonus Video - Flaps


IMPORTANT - Error in the instruction book
If you follow the instruction book you won't be able to fit the front fuselage!


More to follow.....

[Twokidsnosleep]

Hopefully a good sign
I got an email today from Ammo that my payment for the Lanc has been put through
Now that means it is going to be shipped soon....or I am getting ripped off

[RangerNeil]

Hopefully a good sign
I got an email today from Ammo that my payment for the Lanc has been put through
Now that means it is going to be shipped soon....or I am getting ripped off

Good news - think positively!
Ammo took my payment in Nov. '21 - I hope. If they didn't the the OH is going to start using the D word again because the financial situation has dropped some what since then.....

[Twokidsnosleep]

Hopefully a good sign
I got an email today from Ammo that my payment for the Lanc has been put through
Now that means it is going to be shipped soon....or I am getting ripped off

Good news - think positively!
Ammo took my payment in Nov. '21 - I hope. If they didn't the the OH is going to start using the D word again because the financial situation has dropped some what since then.....

I am positive my wife will kill me when she see the size of the box

[RangerNeil]

I got the same sessage from Ammo:
"Your order will be prepared once the preorder items are available at warehouse, after the estimated date that appears in the preorder item detail page. Please, keep in mind that if your order contains non-preorder items, the full order will be prepared and sent once all products have real stock at the website. Contact us, if you have questions, through web orders support at info@ammo.es."

And yes - when my wife sees the size of the box she's going to have apoplexy!!!

[digger303]

I got the same sessage from Ammo:
"Your order will be prepared once the preorder items are available at warehouse, after the estimated date that appears in the preorder item detail page. Please, keep in mind that if your order contains non-preorder items, the full order will be prepared and sent once all products have real stock at the website. Contact us, if you have questions, through web orders support at info@ammo.es."

And yes - when my wife sees the size of the box she's going to have apoplexy!!!

Hopefully a good sign
I got an email today from Ammo that my payment for the Lanc has been put through
Now that means it is going to be shipped soon....or I am getting ripped off

Good news - think positively!
Ammo took my payment in Nov. '21 - I hope. If they didn't the the OH is going to start using the D word again because the financial situation has dropped some what since then.....

I am positive my wife will kill me when she see the size of the box

It'll come Scott don't worry about Ammo....Worry about the postal service...
AND
the wives......What do you 2 want on your headstones

[Twokidsnosleep]

I got the same sessage from Ammo:
"Your order will be prepared once the preorder items are available at warehouse, after the estimated date that appears in the preorder item detail page. Please, keep in mind that if your order contains non-preorder items, the full order will be prepared and sent once all products have real stock at the website. Contact us, if you have questions, through web orders support at info@ammo.es."

And yes - when my wife sees the size of the box she's going to have apoplexy!!!

Good news - think positively!
Ammo took my payment in Nov. '21 - I hope. If they didn't the the OH is going to start using the D word again because the financial situation has dropped some what since then.....

I am positive my wife will kill me when she see the size of the box

It'll come Scott don't worry about Ammo....Worry about the postal service...
AND
the wives......What do you 2 want on your headstones

A very fair assessment of women and postal service…neither deliver the goods well or often enough

[digger303]

I got the same sessage from Ammo:
"Your order will be prepared once the preorder items are available at warehouse, after the estimated date that appears in the preorder item detail page. Please, keep in mind that if your order contains non-preorder items, the full order will be prepared and sent once all products have real stock at the website. Contact us, if you have questions, through web orders support at info@ammo.es."

And yes - when my wife sees the size of the box she's going to have apoplexy!!!

I am positive my wife will kill me when she see the size of the box

It'll come Scott don't worry about Ammo....Worry about the postal service...
AND
the wives......What do you 2 want on your headstones

A very fair assessment of women and postal service…neither deliver the goods well or often enough

Well one things for sure if you piss the ladies off they will make it their mission to bury you deeeep.

[RangerNeil]

I got an e-mail from Ammo today. Delivery is due the 1st July.


Bummer is thats the day I go back to work from sick leave! I'm going to have to wait till about 20:30 hrs before I get to see it.....

[Twokidsnosleep]

I got an e-mail from Ammo today. Delivery is due the 1st July.


Bummer is thats the day I go back to work from sick leave! I'm going to have to wait till about 20:30 hrs before I get to see it.....

And the race is on….got my email too

[RangerNeil]

I got an e-mail from Ammo today. Delivery is due the 1st July.


Bummer is thats the day I go back to work from sick leave! I'm going to have to wait till about 20:30 hrs before I get to see it.....

And the race is on….got my email too

I live closer to where Ammo Mig are based so the laws of nature say you will get yours first....

[Twokidsnosleep]

I got an e-mail from Ammo today. Delivery is due the 1st July.


Bummer is thats the day I go back to work from sick leave! I'm going to have to wait till about 20:30 hrs before I get to see it.....

And the race is on….got my email too

I live closer to where Ammo Mig are based so the laws of nature say you will get yours first....

I don't find a delivery date, only it is in the Neatherland's post system

[RangerNeil]

And the race is on….got my email too

I live closer to where Ammo Mig are based so the laws of nature say you will get yours first....

I don't find a delivery date, only it is in the Neatherland's post system

Hmm - mine is coming via TNT couriers, their default shipment choice for the UK:

[RangerNeil]

Don't know about the ladies - just been advised by TNT that French Customs are being total <censoreds> and the package is being held at Marley-la-Ville whilst French Customs "seek clarification" from the Spanish Customs. My hopes of getting an undamaged package just fell drastically...
My experience of French Customs in the past is they are complete, utter and total b******s.

[Twokidsnosleep]

Don't know about the ladies - just been advised by TNT that French Customs are being total <censoreds> and the package is being held at Marley-la-Ville whilst French Customs "seek clarification" from the Spanish Customs. My hopes of getting an undamaged package just fell drastically...
My experience of French Customs in the past is they are complete, utter and total b******s.

[RangerNeil]

Ye gods - just been had a message saying the package is in Northampton "awaiting Customs Clarification" - with delivery predicted for tomorrow!! Looks like I owe the French an apology!!

[digger303]

Ye gods - just been had a message saying the package is in Northampton "awaiting Customs Clarification" - with delivery predicted for tomorrow!! Looks like I owe the French an apology!!

The last hurdle will be getting it past the front door.....

PS..My Missus comes from Northampton and her father had the fishing /gaming shop there for many years....Rigby.

[Tomcat64]

I know I've posted it before but I can't read this thread without thinking there's going to be a lot of this going on soon...

[RangerNeil]

Excellent!!

[Twokidsnosleep]

I am off on holidays for a week for the first time since Christmas/NewYear....guess, just guess when my kit will arrive

[digger303]

I am off on holidays for a week for the first time since Christmas/NewYear....guess, just guess when my kit will arrive

WELL you could stay at work and wait for it.........................nah that ain't happening

[Tomcat64]

I am off on holidays for a week for the first time since Christmas/NewYear....guess, just guess when my kit will arrive

My guess would be in the ten minute interval where you pop out to do something holiday related & Mrs Twokids is left by herself minding the shop...

[RangerNeil]

Well - mine never arrived today!! Online tracking using the "Store" app says its at FDX Aylesford - and stuck there due to a "delay in shipping". That was at 09:30 this morning - its now 22:52 and status hasn't changed...... TNT still say delivery today - sorry TNT - ain't gonna happen unless you using Buggati Veyron or similar as delivery vehicles...

[Tomcat64]

Well - mine never arrived today!! Online tracking using the "Store" app says its at FDX Aylesford - and stuck there due to a "delay in shipping". That was at 09:30 this morning - its now 22:52 and status hasn't changed...... TNT still say delivery today - sorry TNT - ain't gonna happen unless you using Buggati Veyron or similar as delivery vehicles...

The weight of plastic probably knackered the suspension on the delivery van!

[digger303]

Well - mine never arrived today!! Online tracking using the "Store" app says its at FDX Aylesford - and stuck there due to a "delay in shipping". That was at 09:30 this morning - its now 22:52 and status hasn't changed...... TNT still say delivery today - sorry TNT - ain't gonna happen unless you using Buggati Veyron or similar as delivery vehicles...

The weight of plastic probably knackered the suspension on the delivery van!

Probably had to call in a bigger van

[RangerNeil]

Well - mine never arrived today!! Online tracking using the "Store" app says its at FDX Aylesford - and stuck there due to a "delay in shipping". That was at 09:30 this morning - its now 22:52 and status hasn't changed...... TNT still say delivery today - sorry TNT - ain't gonna happen unless you using Buggati Veyron or similar as delivery vehicles...

The weight of plastic probably knackered the suspension on the delivery van!

Or they were all stood around admiring €600.worth of plastic and shipping costs in a box the size of a small suitcase.....

Just found out that "FDX Aylesford" is a Fedex depot (why on earth would a TNT package go to a Fedex depot?) - and its now shut for the weekend. So if I'm lucky it will be here Monday or Tuesday.

[KungFuDrew]

Just found out that "FDX Aylesford" is a Fedex depot (why on earth would a TNT package go to a Fedex depot?) - and its now shut for the weekend. So if I'm lucky it will be here Monday or Tuesday.

Same company. And both offer the same lack of service!

[RangerNeil]

Just found out that "FDX Aylesford" is a Fedex depot (why on earth would a TNT package go to a Fedex depot?) - and its now shut for the weekend. So if I'm lucky it will be here Monday or Tuesday.

Same company. And both offer the same lack of service!

Cheers KF - I never knew that they were the same!
Did know about the service levels though...

[Tomcat64]

Well - mine never arrived today!! Online tracking using the "Store" app says its at FDX Aylesford - and stuck there due to a "delay in shipping". That was at 09:30 this morning - its now 22:52 and status hasn't changed...... TNT still say delivery today - sorry TNT - ain't gonna happen unless you using Buggati Veyron or similar as delivery vehicles...

The weight of plastic probably knackered the suspension on the delivery van!

Or they were all stood around admiring €600.worth of plastic and shipping costs in a box the size of a small suitcase.....

Or it could be they were checking with legal to see if they'd be liable in any divorce proceedings when Mrs Ranger sees it

[coling]

Hi all. It's a lovely kit and the detail is awesome. Went to collect mine yesterday but sadly the clear parts are faulty which is a common issue with the kit and they know about it, so make sure you can get them replaced. Second is the metal barrels are unusable as they don't have the cooling jackets with them. I have raised this with the shop and they are going to try and get the barrels replaced when they send the new clear parts.

[RangerNeil]

The weight of plastic probably knackered the suspension on the delivery van!

Or they were all stood around admiring €600.worth of plastic and shipping costs in a box the size of a small suitcase.....

Or it could be they were checking with legal to see if they'd be liable in any divorce proceedings when Mrs Ranger sees it

Ah - now there you see I am a smart Ranger!! I already told her the cost of the kit and size of the package. What she doesn't yet know is just how damn big the finished item will be..... When she loses her prized coffee table in the living room to a perspex case - thats when the "fun" will start.....

[digger303]

Or they were all stood around admiring €600.worth of plastic and shipping costs in a box the size of a small suitcase.....

Or it could be they were checking with legal to see if they'd be liable in any divorce proceedings when Mrs Ranger sees it

Ah - now there you see I am a smart Ranger!! I already told her the cost of the kit and size of the package. What she doesn't yet know is just how damn big the finished item will be..... When she loses her prized coffee table in the living room to a perspex case - thats when the "fun" will start.....

Wow your a brave fellow....what inscription do you want on your tomb stone......." Always pushed the envelope "

[RangerNeil]

Wow your a brave fellow....what inscription do you want on your tomb stone......." Always pushed the envelope "

Oh - "Who dares wins" will do - the other motto "Cum Marte Minerve" isn't really apicable here...

[digger303]

Wow your a brave fellow....what inscription do you want on your tomb stone......." Always pushed the envelope "

Oh - "Who dares wins" will do - the other motto "Cum Marte Minerve" isn't really apicable here...

Sorry don't understand Korean, but here's another " Alas poor Icarus he flew too close to the sun"....

[RangerNeil]

Just got an email apparently from FedEx about my kit.
They are demanding £119 in taxes before they will deliver it - and if its not paid within 5 days of the package entering the country it gets sent back to the originator.
Thing is it entered the country 6 days ago and online tracking says it it left FDX Aylesford today arriving at Maidenhead sorting office at 18:09 tonight.
The invoice has the consignment number & senders details correct and looks legit.
However part of me is screaming SCAM because it was held at Northampton for customs assessment and released on. Usually in the UK demands for VAT on goods entering the country come from HMRC at point of entry so Fedex trying to claim VAT after release from customs assessment sounds iffy to me.
Going to see what tracking says tomorrow and maybe call Fedex from a number I look up, not the one in the invoice, if its not showing out for delivery.

[digger303]

Just got an email apparently from FedEx about my kit.
They are demanding £119 in taxes before they will deliver it - and if its not paid within 5 days of the package entering the country it gets sent back to the originator.
Thing is it entered the country 6 days ago and online tracking says it it left FDX Aylesford today arriving at Maidenhead sorting office at 18:09 tonight.
The invoice has the consignment number & senders details correct and looks legit.
However part of me is screaming SCAM because it was held at Northampton for customs assessment and released on. Usually in the UK demands for VAT on goods entering the country come from HMRC at point of entry so Fedex trying to claim VAT after release from customs assessment sounds iffy to me.
Going to see what tracking says tomorrow and maybe call Fedex from a number I look up, not the one in the invoice, if its not showing out for delivery.

You have to be so careful with the proliferation of scams. The amount claimed though is some what in keeping with the value of your kit....do you think ? How would they know that ? Coincidence ?
stay careful and safe.


Ps......why don't they just add the vat onto the sale at the time of purchase. It's what happens here ( even international ) except we pay only 10% and the government doesn't have to employ all those people to enforce it.

[aur0ra145]

Just got an email apparently from FedEx about my kit.
They are demanding £119 in taxes before they will deliver it - and if its not paid within 5 days of the package entering the country it gets sent back to the originator.
Thing is it entered the country 6 days ago and online tracking says it it left FDX Aylesford today arriving at Maidenhead sorting office at 18:09 tonight.
The invoice has the consignment number & senders details correct and looks legit.
However part of me is screaming SCAM because it was held at Northampton for customs assessment and released on. Usually in the UK demands for VAT on goods entering the country come from HMRC at point of entry so Fedex trying to claim VAT after release from customs assessment sounds iffy to me.
Going to see what tracking says tomorrow and maybe call Fedex from a number I look up, not the one in the invoice, if its not showing out for delivery.

I'd call FedEx Customs directly. I used to work as a shipper for avionics doing a lot of international stuff (shipped to every continent except Antarctica.) FedEx in the US has a really good help line if you call the right branch (they are not all connected like UPS.) Plus their fraud guys are really good too.

If I was you, forward the e-mail to FedEx fraud. Forward the same e-mail to FedEx Customs. And, if you know the airline the package come on (assuming it wasn't a FedEx plane) and ask them about their customs policy.

Also, from the website you bought the kit from, change your passwords and delete any saved credit card info. Then monitor your credit card stuff for the next couple of weeks/months.

[RangerNeil]

Sadly its a genuine message. Bank account now £119 lighter. Apparently HMRC have changed the rules allowing the courier companies to collect the VAT rather than directly.
I suppose I should think myself lucky - when I got one of the Battlestars the other year it came via the postal system and I got hit with the assessed VAT + a handling charge + a charge for opening & resealing the package + a charge for carrying out the assessment + a charge for e-mailing me to tell me I had to pay the VAT and all the charges.

Hopefully the kit will now arrive in the next two days.

[Tomcat64]

Sadly its a genuine message. Bank account now £119 lighter. Apparently HMRC have changed the rules allowing the courier companies to collect the VAT rather than directly.
I suppose I should think myself lucky - when I got one of the Battlestars the other year it came via the postal system and I got hit with the assessed VAT + a handling charge + a charge for opening & resealing the package + a charge for carrying out the assessment + a charge for e-mailing me to tell me I had to pay the VAT and all the charges.

Hopefully the kit will now arrive in the next two days.

That's a bugger

But unfortunately ordering from out of country has become more of a lottery than ever these days - I'm guessing something the size of a suitcase was always going to attract some unwanted attention.

[aur0ra145]

Ouch!

We'll need lots of pictures when it arrives. I assume the box is the size of a small car.

[RangerNeil]

Ouch!

We'll need lots of pictures when it arrives. I assume the box is the size of a small car.

Going by the pre-production version shown in the unboxing video it won't fit in the boot of my wifes little Citroen C1..

[psmithmags]

Glad it looks like it might finally be resolved Neil. I've only recently looked these up on youtube (The Lancaster, not the Citroen.) All I can say is WOW! The whole thing looks incredible. You are going to have so many late nights. Also you can use the box as a kennel for an elephant when finished. Enjoy.

Paul S.

[RangerNeil]

ITS HERE!!!!!

Probably the biggest, in terms of size and cost, plastic model kit we will see for a looong while.


Mug added for scale:




Talk about plastic density ( white bags are clear sprues):




Box art:








Actuallly getting was a saga again. Around 13:00 hrs I thought to check the tracking status and to my surprise the status had changed to successfully delivered. Which was odd because I've been home all morning and there was neither sight nor sound of it. Checked the signature status and found it had been signed for by an "N Neil". So feeling suitably irate I rang TNT to find out what the hell they were playing at. Spoke politely to a lady - who then had all her systems go down, one after the other as she tried accessing the drivers notes, consignment status and consignment details. Just as she was about go manually raise a concern they came back up and showed it delivered to number 1 - I live at number 25. So walked around to #1 and yes, the old guy had it. It had been dropped outside his door and he'd just rung TNT demanding they return and pick it up. He hadn't signed for it either so that driver is going to be in for some awkward questions. Alls well that ends well though.....

[digger303]

Very good you were on the ball Neil. A dishonest person would have had it on ebay as quick as a flash.
There is going to have to be a Lanc build group.
A very nice purchase...well done to you and all who did...

[Tomcat64]

ITS HERE!!!!!

Probably the biggest, in terms of size and cost, plastic model kit we will see for a looong while.

Ooooh it actually exists and you didn't just hallucinate the whole thing!!!

That's an absolute whopper mate - you must be chuffed with actually getting your hands on it after all of that.

Really pleased for you

[psmithmags]

Excellent news Neil .Got to admit that is a very positive attitude for something that was a near catastrophe. You're a lot more calmer than I would be. I didn't see it on first glance of the photos but the expression on your dogs face is hilarious, a ''What the heck's he bought now and why must I share my sofa?'' look. Is this going to be a dive straight in and build or a I've created a time schedule planned build? (If that makes sense)
Paul S.

[cor]

What a project. Awesome.

[RangerNeil]

Ooooh it actually exists and you didn't just hallucinate the whole thing!!!

That's an absolute whopper mate - you must be chuffed with actually getting your hands on it after all of that.

Really pleased for you

Yep - its actually real! The kit does exist outside of photos and videos on the interwebby..
Whopper doesn't come close - I'd heard stories the box was the size of a small suitcase, the type that go in the O/H locker in airliners - I can confirm they are 100% true.
Definitely chuffed at getting it at long last.

Excellent news Neil .Got to admit that is a very positive attitude for something that was a near catastrophe. You're a lot more calmer than I would be. I didn't see it on first glance of the photos but the expression on your dogs face is hilarious, a ''What the heck's he bought now and why must I share my sofa?'' look. Is this going to be a dive straight in and build or a I've created a time schedule planned build? (If that makes sense)
Paul S.

Wasn't feeling very calm at the time I assure you - something the lady at TNT picked up on very quickly. Mainly because I thought it had been nicked given it had apparently been signed for. Calmed down a LOT when they found it had been delivered to the wrong address and I'd got it in my hands.
Build-wise first I need to clear the bench as currently there are 4 projects on the go. Then before I even think about building it I need to find somewhere to put the finished item. Currently the only viable place is the coffee table in the lounge, with a case over it. Needless to say the OH is rather opposed.... Might have to get the sharp swords out and switch into psycho mode to change her her mind..
Once I start the build I will likely follow the sequence in the - long - list of YT videos at the start of this thread. I think I will need to stock up on paint first as well.