Tamiya Kampfpanzer Leopard 1/35

Post by **Schoof** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:44 pm

A Quick question for who knows ( our german members i think )

Bernauer Strasse was that west or east Berlin ???

Post by **Coen** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:37 pm

This is from Wikipedia Sebastian

When Berlin was a divided city, the Berlin Wall erected in 1961 ran along this street. Bernauer Straße became famous for escapes from windows of apartment blocks in the eastern part of the city, down to the street, which was in the West. Several people died here when the border was first enforced.

I don't know if that answers your question.

Post by **Schoof** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:31 pm

Detail Paint is done.........

i had to do something ......

On all the Pictures i found it was just Green Green and then some Green ....

so i did some detail but only some

now she is gonna get a goat of clear varnish and then the washes and filters will come on

P.S. .... lol looking back at the Pics i realise i forgot the cross on the back

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:35 pm

A nice and Shiny tank.......... not for long

look twice or you`ll mis it .......and you`re supposed to....

Post by **DC87** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:38 pm

Looking good Sebastian, great work on those dodgy wheels

Post by **Coen** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:10 pm

Well done Sebastian.
Nice gloss coat dude.

Need the shades to look at it.

Hey.. look at that fix. Now that turned out really well buddy!!! Awesome!

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:34 pm

a little update

Wash and decals done................. to bad it was in that order......... more washing will follow

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:55 am

Coming along very nicely! !

Post by **Coen** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:26 pm

Oops. You put the decals on after the wash?
If the decals sat down fine then you got away with it haha.

If they silver at all, then you can try adding a bit of your decal solution to try to snug them down better.
No matter what happens though, before you do any more washes Sebastian, you should seal those decals with a clear coat, ie future.
They won't react well to the washes if you don't protect them.

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:54 pm

Coen wrote:Oops. You put the decals on after the wash?
If the decals sat down fine then you got away with it haha.

If they silver at all, then you can try adding a bit of your decal solution to try to snug them down better.
No matter what happens though, before you do any more washes Sebastian, you should seal those decals with a clear coat, ie future.
They won't react well to the washes if you don't protect them.

Thanks for the tip ......

can i also use a gloss varnish ( i used one from vallejo the first time )

Post by **chief5437** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:23 pm

Looks great so far mate, great work on that wheel, good recovery!

Post by **Coen** » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:33 am

Schoof wrote:
Coen wrote:Oops. You put the decals on after the wash?
If the decals sat down fine then you got away with it haha.

If they silver at all, then you can try adding a bit of your decal solution to try to snug them down better.
No matter what happens though, before you do any more washes Sebastian, you should seal those decals with a clear coat, ie future.
They won't react well to the washes if you don't protect them.

Thanks for the tip ......

can i also use a gloss varnish ( i used one from vallejo the first time )

No problem buddy, as long as it helps.
Gloss or a semi gloss is fine. After you're done all your painting and washes and just before you're about to add your pigments, you can give it a flat coat.

Post by **Schoof** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:51 pm

*Update*

[youtube]mLaOvsCvDLU[/youtube]

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:49 pm

*UPDATE*

The Flat coat is on ...... now she looks like a tank again

And even the Decals did behave themselfs ...........exepct this little ........

GGGGGGGRRRRRRRR>>>>>>>>

the tracks got there undercoat of rust .......

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:15 pm

She is looking great buddy

Post by **Coen** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:43 am

Awesome work Sebastian. Your best so far buddy!!!

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:09 am

Great work so far buddy

Post by **Tiger131** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:26 am

looking stunning

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:22 am

Coen Sir ....... at the moment i do not like you very much........ this is Scary !!!!!!!

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Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:27 am

ok......that went wrong !

i had to take every bit of paint of !

some how my thinner did do NOTHING ......

i went over the paint 10 to 12 times and i kept seeing the spots .... but wen i used water it came of completly ?!

so 2 thing i would like to know.

1: what kind of oil paint do you use
2: what kind of thinner do you use

i just watched the BF109 piece where you do the dot filter and you paint just seems do desolve where mine just stayed where it was and it kept being very wel seen dots ...... Help

Post by **Coen** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:31 pm

Oh my Sebastian,
I hope that you got it off?

I use Winsor Newton oils and Turpenoid for thinner.
How long did you leave the paint before you dragged the brush over it?
It should have only been a few minutes.

Without knowing more, it sounds like either your thinner isn't strong enough, or you left the paint too long.

Post by **Tiger131** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:36 pm

i agree with coen any oil painnt put the little dots on then wipe of with a damp brush and they should come off straight away...sorry to hear about your whoopsie daisy

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:17 pm

These are my oilpaints

and i use odreless Turpentine as thinner ( but i removed the paint with water )

i put the dots on i started on the left side worked my way around the tank and when i had put on all the colors i started removing them again starting again on the left side

Post by **Coen** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:32 pm

Normally oil paints don't start drying for hours and hours, I don't know why yours dried so fast Sebastian.
When I do dot filters or mapping its on a gloss coat, and I do one section at a time (that way I don't forget any dots).
Turpenoid is an odourless thinner just like any other (though too expensive in my opinion), but you can do this with mineral spirits (white spirits) as well.
If you did it on a matte finish it might stick a bit, but it should still come right off leaving a slight tone change on the paint below.

Post by **Tiger131** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:33 pm

i cant see were it went wrong...

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:44 pm

Coen wrote:Normally oil paints don't start drying for hours and hours, I don't know why yours dried so fast Sebastian.
When I do dot filters or mapping its on a gloss coat, and I do one section at a time (that way I don't forget any dots).
Turpenoid is an odourless thinner just like any other (though too expensive in my opinion), but you can do this with mineral spirits (white spirits) as well.
If you did it on a matte finish it might stick a bit, but it should still come right off leaving a slight tone change on the paint below.

on a GLOSS coat ???????

there is the thing i think....... i a replay on my youtube video by scalemodelAlberta that i had to aply my dot filter on a FLAT coat............ maybe thats way it went sour

Post by **Coen** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:58 pm

You can put it on a flat coat or a gloss coat Sebastian... Flat coats will soak up more paint and the effect is more localized and intense. Gloss it's much less of an effect. It still shouldn't have done what happened to your kit.
I still don't know how you got it off with water... that actually shouldn't have worked. haha.
Weird.

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:21 pm

i think i`m gonna skip the filter for this build and i`m gonna practice first on something smaller like the pak 35/36 i`m building

Post by **Coen** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:41 pm

Did you manage to get all of the dot filter off?

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:59 pm

Coen wrote:Did you manage to get all of the dot filter off?

yep every dot came off !

including a piece off the "42" Decal........

Post by **Murad** » Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:58 pm

dunno if i'm late but just have to point this out: if those paints did come off via water than they might be water based oil paints? i do not know that particular brand but yes there are water based oil paints in the market for some time which don't need any kind of smelly spirit to work with but plain water (in most cases)!

if this is the case it might be a good idea trying the paints elsewhere first to determine whether they would work ok with water...

Post by **Coen** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:52 am

Yup... he's right on there.
I just did some checking Sebastian vermeer are water based oils.
So.. that means that you should be able to use your dot filter, but use water as the thinner.

Post by **Schoof** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:24 am

But that then also means i already kind of did the filter. ......

Post by **Coen** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:36 am

A very light one... yes

I'm guessing you did a pretty good job trying to remove it because you thought that you made a mistake.
It's entirely up to you if you want to try it again.
If you are happy with the way it works then I would leave it alone.
You can experiment on the bottom of the tank and see if you like it.
I do that all the time.
shhh don't tell anyone.

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:44 am

Coen wrote:You can experiment on the bottom of the tank and see if you like it.
I do that all the time.
shhh don't tell anyone.

I new it!

Post by **Schoof** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:17 am

*UPDATE 4*

[youtube]PCt8Zstz5U8[/youtube]

Post by **Murad** » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:50 am

Schoof wrote:*UPDATE 4*

[youtube]PCt8Zstz5U8[/youtube]

Schoof you can attack that peeled off decal with wet sandpaper, ~1200 should do, remove it completely then use one of the other tonnage decals coming with the kit and finally varnish and weather the glacis plate once more. if you are worrying about realism, don't bother, nothing is proper with this leopard of tamiya, it's probably a prototype or a very very early variant anyway...

Post by **Schoof** » Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:18 pm

*UPDATE*

[youtube]6eTj2zr1b90[/youtube]

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:52 pm

I like that idea of that Berlin Wall

And I'm looking forward to see that cobblestone Road. ..
Did you tried to sand that ruined decal with some 1200 grid sandpaper?
You said in you video you had one extra decal, so sanding it down and replace it would do the trick. But that is just my thought. Just don't give up on this model Sebastiaan, it's looking really great! And we all make mistakes and lean from them. Keep up the good work!

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:51 pm

IT`S FIXED !!!!!

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:53 pm

I have an idea for a Dio he said .........

Lets make a kobblestone road he said.............

dont listen to me self anymore.....

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:51 pm

Owh boy.... that sucks....

There is a lot to find on making cobbleroads on youtube tho....
I make mine not from clay but from styrodur. http://www.scale-world.nl/e-store/products/356/8290/
I press in the stones with differend old brushes where I pulled out the hairs.

Thats my way...

But a easyer and faster way is ready made.... And You can always go for it..
Take a look at this site Sebastiaan, its a dutch manufacturer and they have very good stuff and not expensive...
Give Olaf my regards!

http://www.realityinscale.com/epages/61 ... _Sidewalks

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:48 pm

Thanks. ...... But I want to see how my way will turn out.... Then after that I will look further

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:12 pm

The second part of the dio........

No it's not a keyboard

Post by **Schoof** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:15 pm

A hint

Post by **Schoof** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:43 pm

*UPDATE*

She is DONE ........ the diorama is DONE ( wasn`t an extreme one )

waiting for the last of the glue to dry then i will take some pic`s and post a official reveal !!!

Post by **fly1ngdutchm4n** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:52 pm

Looking forward to the reveal!

I'm sure she's a Beauty!