After a bit of feedback

[Paul]

I need honest feedback, so no blowing smoke up my ass

As you know (or may not lol) i plan to start doing video builds for our ISM channel. As some of you know i do video builds for emodels, I'm told people like these vids but i don't get much feedback on them (not many comments on the vids) so as I'm planning to use the same format for the ISM builds are there things i can improve on. I don't mean my own way of modelling or saying erm on camera as someone complained about on one of the vids (its not easy concentrating on modelling and chatting about stuff too). I mean the way i film and edit them, i try to show how i do a particular stage in a build then rather than watch me do the whole thing ill show how i approach it, show me actually do a bit of it, then skip through a bit showing it complete, this way you get to see how i do something and then when its actually done, so rather than watching me masking up things for 20 mins, i can show 10 mins of materials i use to do it, how i actually do it and it complete, this way i can get more content into a 45 min video. The ideal way to see my way of doing this is to watch part 1 & 2 of the tamiya corsair build.

So is there anything i can improve on?

[DC87]

Um great question Paul. Your Corsair vids have been brilliant so far as your explanation of techniques is great and the editing keeps the viewer focused. As for what you could improve... maybe a bit of drama such as the odd scalpel embedded in the index finger serious answer is I'm not sure at the moment (well that was usefull I hear you shout) - I shall rewatch parts one and two reporting back on my thoughts

[ScaleModelling1105]

I haven't watched your emodels vids yet but I think a good idea (if ur not doing this already) would be to do all the stages of different sub-assemblies e.g. with the cockpit show building, painting and weathering. I think these vids are a great idea btw Paul. I think it would also be really nice if you could do a variety of models and not only one scale. I know there's only so far you can go but I think it would appeal to more people that way. Another good thing would be if in each vid you commented on how everything had gone since the last vid from the parts to how easy it was to weather. The last thing is just do what you've done in your other vids as they're really easy to follow and you and Lee are both really good at them.
Sorry if I've waffled on loads or said stuff you were planning to do or already do in your emodels vids.
Hope this has helped Paul. Your corsair video is a great one to replicate as you describe the stages really well.
Cheers,

[Nige201980]

To be honest with you Paul with the two cameras I think the way you go about is about right like you said we see What you use how you do it and a bit on how you do it then the finished article which as far as I'm conserned is the best way.

[Neils]

I for one have found the Me109 build video's extremely interesting, so it's great you plan on expanding them. If I were to have a tiny comment is that it looks like everything just goes perfectly well when you put the kits together. I'd love to see a 'how to recover from..' series where you demonstrate how to undo or cover up some common errors people make. Stuff like

1. When masking tape leaks
2. Over thinning paints and they run all over
3. Dropping a part inside a fuselage after joining it together
4. Pulling paint off when you peel the masking tape
5. Airbrush problems
6. Paint/overspray on the cockpit
7. Overcoming large fit issues, rather than stuff you can do with Mr Surfacer.
8. When re-scribing goes wrong

As I'm still learning I'd like to see some outtakes, and corrections not just a 'Wow everything comes together great all of the time' kinda thing.

Hopefully, yYou get the idea :

[MakingModelsAgain]

Aside from you wearing a pink* ruffled Tu-tu when presenting the vids, I can't think of anything I would change. I've often though about adapting a similar style to my vids, but since mine are so downright fantastic the way they are, I've opted not to for the moment.

*Or purple.

[wappynutter]

....and the song goes!.......
" I love you just the way you are!!!!!"
To be honest all you have to do is check out how many times a new member has posted in their intro how after seeing your videos on YouTube they have joined!!!
...or the added Facebook members who mention they have found ISM out after seeing your video builds...
Testimony enough sir....
Keep it up, we love ya dude!!

[Lee]

Aside from you wearing a pink* ruffled Tu-tu when presenting the vids, I can't think of anything I would change. I've often though about adapting a similar style to my vids, but since mine are so downright fantastic the way they are, I've opted not to for the moment.

*Or purple.

I love your modesty Gary. !t shines through the fog of normality like a sunbeam on a rainy day

[Lee]

As for you Paul - Get a decent accent (Southern of course), stop biting your nails, stop holding the rugby ball, laugh more and get a new chair - that other one is buggered!

Job's a good'un

[MakingModelsAgain]

I love your modesty Gary. !t shines through the fog of normality like a sunbeam on a rainy day

I know.

[Lee]

I love your modesty Gary. !t shines through the fog of normality like a sunbeam on a rainy day

I know.

I've just made a little sex wee....

[MakingModelsAgain]

I've just made a little sex wee....

What can I say, it's a gift.

[GeoMcp]

Dude just keep doing wbat your doing........it ain't broke......so why fix it !

Im learning something every time I watch one of your vids as most people from beginner up surely is.

keep up the good work mate!!!

[Lee]

I've just made a little sex wee....

What can I say, it's a gift.

Truly

[Matthew]

Ya to do them on DVD hi res and have them 2hrs long

[Matthew]

I don't have a clue how to use a camcorder my self and I think u do a great job if I did I a vid it would be took off YouTube with in 5mins with all the (f) and (b) coming out my mouth and kits flying around the room lol

[Paul]

As for you Paul - Get a decent accent (Southern of course), stop biting your nails, stop holding the rugby ball, laugh more and get a new chair - that other one is buggered!

Job's a good'un

Erm

I'll answer those one at a time lol

No I've already got one
I'll try lol
Get bent
When I'm explaining stuff I'm all business so find it hard to switch off, for emodels I try to keep it a sensible as I can and for us as direct and to the point I'm hoping with doing the build vids I can relax a little more and have more humour/banter.
Nothing wrong with that chair, just because it missing an arm is ripped to hell and creaks like a bugger means nothing.

[Paul]

Um great question Paul. Your Corsair vids have been brilliant so far as your explanation of techniques is great and the editing keeps the viewer focused. As for what you could improve... maybe a bit of drama such as the odd scalpel embedded in the index finger serious answer is I'm not sure at the moment (well that was usefull I hear you shout) - I shall rewatch parts one and two reporting back on my thoughts

Cheers Dan, Ha ha I'll try to injure myself just for you mate.

[Paul]

I haven't watched your emodels vids yet but I think a good idea (if ur not doing this already) would be to do all the stages of different sub-assemblies e.g. with the cockpit show building, painting and weathering. I think these vids are a great idea btw Paul. I think it would also be really nice if you could do a variety of models and not only one scale. I know there's only so far you can go but I think it would appeal to more people that way. Another good thing would be if in each vid you commented on how everything had gone since the last vid from the parts to how easy it was to weather. The last thing is just do what you've done in your other vids as they're really easy to follow and you and Lee are both really good at them.
Sorry if I've waffled on loads or said stuff you were planning to do or already do in your emodels vids.
Hope this has helped Paul. Your corsair video is a great one to replicate as you describe the stages really well.
Cheers,

That's kind of what I'm doing already, so far for emodels channel I've built a 1/48 me109, 1/72 F22 Raptor, 1/6 motorbike and the 1/32 F4 corsair, so I have tried to vary it a bit.

[Paul]

To be honest with you Paul with the two cameras I think the way you go about is about right like you said we see What you use how you do it and a bit on how you do it then the finished article which as far as I'm conserned is the best way.

Cheers Nige, I'm hoping to add a little something extra in part 11 of the technique guide

[Paul]

I for one have found the Me109 build video's extremely interesting, so it's great you plan on expanding them. If I were to have a tiny comment is that it looks like everything just goes perfectly well when you put the kits together. I'd love to see a 'how to recover from..' series where you demonstrate how to undo or cover up some common errors people make. Stuff like

1. When masking tape leaks
2. Over thinning paints and they run all over
3. Dropping a part inside a fuselage after joining it together
4. Pulling paint off when you peel the masking tape
5. Airbrush problems
6. Paint/overspray on the cockpit
7. Overcoming large fit issues, rather than stuff you can do with Mr Surfacer.
8. When re-scribing goes wrong

As I'm still learning I'd like to see some outtakes, and corrections not just a 'Wow everything comes together great all of the time' kinda thing.

Hopefully, yYou get the idea :

Good idea, but I don't think I'll have time to do that now with the video builds and to be honest apart from number 7 and 8 I don't have problems with any of the others.

[Paul]

Aside from you wearing a pink* ruffled Tu-tu when presenting the vids, I can't think of anything I would change. I've often though about adapting a similar style to my vids, but since mine are so downright fantastic the way they are, I've opted not to for the moment.

*Or purple.

Lol thanks for the help (I think) Gary

[Paul]

....and the song goes!.......
" I love you just the way you are!!!!!"
To be honest all you have to do is check out how many times a new member has posted in their intro how after seeing your videos on YouTube they have joined!!!
...or the added Facebook members who mention they have found ISM out after seeing your video builds...
Testimony enough sir....
Keep it up, we love ya dude!!

Ha ha love you too Andy.

[Paul]

Do some armour please

Already in the pipeline

[Paul]

I don't have a clue how to use a camcorder my self and I think u do a great job if I did I a vid it would be took off YouTube with in 5mins with all the (f) and (b) coming out my mouth and kits flying around the room lol

I have no idea how I don't swear on camera, I must be that focused on what I'm doing, ask lee if were chatting on Skype or on speaker phone if he asks me not to swear as josh his son is around I'll swear my head off, seriously no idea how I don't.

[drifter50]

The more videos you do the better, I can sit and watch your vids all day and I learned alot about different ways to build,paint,and weather a model.

[Neils]

Good idea, but I don't think I'll have time to do that now with the video builds and to be honest apart from number 7 and 8 I don't have problems with any of the others.

Hmm maybe a one off show then? I'm sure after years of experience such stuff is second nature to fix or prevent but for newbies they are issues.

As for the actual style and use of equipment I think it works really well and I wouldn't change it.

[UKscalemodeller]

I think it's good as it is. the bf109 tutorial vids have been well put together.

[alextheblue]

I've watched all your vids Paul and I don't even build models of the winged variety -well not yet anyway!

Bearing in mind that I have no experience of building planes I think your vids are spot on - the camera angles are just right and having that second camera really helps. They are always well lit, your explanations are clear and easy to follow and I always finish watching feeling that I've learnt a load of stuff and have even tried certain things on my armour builds. With regards to the feedback, I must confess that I have never left a comment and I must apologise for this. With a lot of the threads and especially when you watch a video that's 10 minutes or longer, you get so caught up in it all, that you get to the end and any thoughts of leaving a comment go out the window. Sometimes I think a more accurate way of measuring the interest is seeing how many views there have been - I know if I view a thread I will read every post right up to the last one, even if I don't leave a comment.

As far as improvements go, the only thing I can think of is a scantily clad nubile young assistant handing you sanding sticks and CA applicators, a bit like a magicians assistant!!

[wappynutter]

As far as improvements go, the only thing I can think of is a scantily clad nubile young assistant handing you sanding sticks and CA applicators, a bit like a magicians assistant!!

Hahaha..... A Debbie McGee of the modelling community!!!

" You'll like this modellers...... Not a lot!.....but you'll like it!!"

#in my best Paul Daniels voice#

[Paul]

Good idea, but I don't think I'll have time to do that now with the video builds and to be honest apart from number 7 and 8 I don't have problems with any of the others.

Hmm maybe a one off show then? I'm sure after years of experience such stuff is second nature to fix or prevent but for newbies they are issues.

As for the actual style and use of equipment I think it works really well and I wouldn't change it.

Plenty of stuff goes wrong it just not really modelling related, I forget to disconnect to doorbell and phone and they ring, dogs snoring in the background, I had a camera fall of its tripod once lol and of course the famous hedge trimmers and cat fight I caught on film. And then there's my Brain farts were words just don't come out right.

[Paul]

I think it's good as it is. the bf109 tutorial vids have been well put together.

Cheers Ian hopefully the builds vids will be the same

[Paul]

I've watched all your vids Paul and I don't even build models of the winged variety -well not yet anyway!

Bearing in mind that I have no experience of building planes I think your vids are spot on - the camera angles are just right and having that second camera really helps. They are always well lit, your explanations are clear and easy to follow and I always finish watching feeling that I've learnt a load of stuff and have even tried certain things on my armour builds. With regards to the feedback, I must confess that I have never left a comment and I must apologise for this. With a lot of the threads and especially when you watch a video that's 10 minutes or longer, you get so caught up in it all, that you get to the end and any thoughts of leaving a comment go out the window. Sometimes I think a more accurate way of measuring the interest is seeing how many views there have been - I know if I view a thread I will read every post right up to the last one, even if I don't leave a comment.

As far as improvements go, the only thing I can think of is a scantily clad nubile young assistant handing you sanding sticks and CA applicators, a bit like a magicians assistant!!

I often do the same, sometimes not even liking a video, your right you do get focused on the video and forget. The vids do get a lot of views which is good, and I'm not too bothered about the lack of comments it just not knowing if the vids are ok lol. As for the assistant I'll see what I can do, and if you lucky I may even get a female one

[JayCub]

The accent is brilliant my favorite English accent, maybe longer vids, how about some out-takes like how the chair lost it's handle, only joking Paul maybe longer vids if you can make them that way but it looks pro to me and that is on the level, i like armor myself and you have that covered as you mentioned.
Some-one mentioned if its not broken don't fix it, and im not mentioning the chair again, that was Lee

i remember some guy you where chatting to on the phone in one of your cheeky vids, gave me a good laugh

Tom

[Paul]

The accent is brilliant my favorite English accent, maybe longer vids, how about some out-takes like how the chair lost it's handle, only joking Paul maybe longer vids if you can make them that way but it looks pro to me and that is on the level, i like armor myself and you have that covered as you mentioned.
Some-one mentioned if its not broken don't fix it, and im not mentioning the chair again, that was Lee

i remember some guy you where chatting to on the phone in one of your cheeky vids, gave me a good laugh

Tom

Ahhh good old steve lol.

Longer vids might be problem as it takes forever to edit upload etc, i aim for between 35-45 mins on my build vids so hopefully thats long enough.

[Drazimo]

Hey Mr. Paul,

I'm presently watching your latest video in your ISM techniques series, I'm presently in the process of painting the camo on my spitfire and wished I'd done a mask, but that is by-the-by.

Anyway, one thing I've noticed and I remember noticing from the other videos is that you swap camera angles, to show different points of view, which is brilliant. I assume you record both cameras at the same time and then splice to the different angles as and when you feel they're more poignant. What I would advise though is to pick the audio from one camera, as it seems to my untrained ear that you use audio from the camera in the clips you're showing, and they certainly sound different and makes it slightly inconsistent... if that makes sense?

It is by no means a big issue, and I doubt many people will complain about it, but I'm a perfectionist and it's something I've noticed, but in the grand scheme of things in minor. From my experience of YT over the years, despite it being a visual medium for the most part, you're more likely to get people to watch your videos if the audio is top notch, over the visuals, strange, but that's the world we live in. lol.

Anyway, just a little something to consider maybe, or not. :-p

-Draz

[Lee]

Anyway, one thing I've noticed and I remember noticing from the other videos is that you swap camera angles, to show different points of view, which is brilliant. I assume you record both cameras at the same time and then splice to the different angles as and when you feel they're more poignant. What I would advise though is to pick the audio from one camera, as it seems to my untrained ear that you use audio from the camera in the clips you're showing, and they certainly sound different and makes it slightly inconsistent... if that makes sense?

It is by no means a big issue, and I doubt many people will complain about it, but I'm a perfectionist and it's something I've noticed, but in the grand scheme of things in minor. From my experience of YT over the years, despite it being a visual medium for the most part, you're more likely to get people to watch your videos if the audio is top notch, over the visuals, strange, but that's the world we live in. lol.

Anyway, just a little something to consider maybe, or not. :-p

-Draz

I don't think he's worked out that he can reduce the sound in the second clip is all mate. I just reduce the sound of the second cam to 40% and it sounds the same as the other one

[Drazimo]

Ah that's fair enough if he's using duplicates of the same camera and the settings are the same. I'm just a geek and using things like audacity to take away background noise along with any white noise and such. Old habits die hard.

-Draz

[Joesdad]

Paul, leading on from what Draz says, when you're at the spray booth it can be tricky to hear what your saying mate, especially when the compresser kicks in. I dont whether a mic would help... Not a biggie Paul as your vids are a must see (and there's the smoke).

Tim

[Paul]

Anyway, one thing I've noticed and I remember noticing from the other videos is that you swap camera angles, to show different points of view, which is brilliant. I assume you record both cameras at the same time and then splice to the different angles as and when you feel they're more poignant. What I would advise though is to pick the audio from one camera, as it seems to my untrained ear that you use audio from the camera in the clips you're showing, and they certainly sound different and makes it slightly inconsistent... if that makes sense?

It is by no means a big issue, and I doubt many people will complain about it, but I'm a perfectionist and it's something I've noticed, but in the grand scheme of things in minor. From my experience of YT over the years, despite it being a visual medium for the most part, you're more likely to get people to watch your videos if the audio is top notch, over the visuals, strange, but that's the world we live in. lol.

Anyway, just a little something to consider maybe, or not. :-p

-Draz

I don't think he's worked out that he can reduce the sound in the second clip is all mate. I just reduce the sound of the second cam to 40% and it sounds the same as the other one

Sadly your not right lee, I reduce the sound to 70% on the overhead camera and the background noise by 30% on both so sadly your wrong mate

The main problem is I get closer and further from the overhead cam all the time while I'm working so to constantly edit the volume would take me ages (on videos that take me long enough as it is). I'm adding a third camera on the next video so there may be a difference again, if I can find the time to mess about using one soundtrack and editing it so it's in sync with the video footage and it doesn't add too much time to my editing I will. I do try my best to level the audio but there will always be a difference.

[Paul]

Ah that's fair enough if he's using duplicates of the same camera and the settings are the same. I'm just a geek and using things like audacity to take away background noise along with any white noise and such. Old habits die hard.

-Draz

Yeah they are identical cameras.

[Paul]

Paul, leading on from what Draz says, when you're at the spray booth it can be tricky to hear what your saying mate, especially when the compresser kicks in. I dont whether a mic would help... Not a biggie Paul as your vids are a must see (and there's the smoke).

Tim

It may well help mate, but it still leads into the problem of using one soundtrack then, I'll look into it and see what it involves.

[Paul]

Just had a look at my cameras and there's no option for external mics so I am bit stuffed there, I will play around with the editing in iMovie and see how easy it is to use one soundtrack. If anyone knows please let me know

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[George]

Just watched the 2 videos. The one thing i did like in the second video that you did not do in the first is show the instructions first. It would give us an idea of what you are doing when you were putting the first part of the cockpit together. Maybe if you could flash it in the corner of the screen like Lee does in the monthly videos. Being a begginer i would also like to see in at least the first video what you sanded off i.e. any parting lines and how you removed them. Especially on the smaller parts. You would only need show it in the first video and just one or two parts. I did like how you showed how to remove the leftover spruce from the part but would have like to seen it done in the beginning. With the videos you kind of need to think that the viewer is putting the model together with you. Thats what I plan on doing. I think it would be a great group build for us beginners. It would be a good incentive to get us to post some builds. Sometime it can be intimidating when we see all the great stuff everyone puts out.

[jmar829]

As far as visual and audio quality go, I'm extremely pleased at what you put out. As far as content goes, I'd like to see some scratch building ideas or some "worst case scenarios", like dealing with horrible wing root gaps from filling to finish, or any other tragedy like painting mistakes or finish fixes. Not to puff too much smoke, but I've learned a great deal from your videos over the last year, so I hope you don't change too much.

Cheers!

[Lee]

Your not reducing the sound enough mate is all

[Drazimo]

I don't use iMovie, I use Sony Vegas, but I assume the same principles will apply.

When you initially add video footage it should separate into 2 tracks, audio and video, and if you're using 2 cameras you'll be putting in 2 lots of footage meaning you'll have 4 tracks, 2 video and 2 audio. Now, as you're recording at the same time on both cameras, the audio files should be pretty much the same, as in the waves displayed of the audio tracks should line up, which means it's a simple case of lining up the tracks and then once they're lined up you can delete the audio track you don't want leaving you with the one you do. Also, if you're lining up the audio together with the video, all areas should be lined up when it comes to the video footage as well. Then you edit as normal, slicing and dicing as you normally would.

Seems complicated, but it really isn't. I can make a video in the next couple of days to give you an idea.

One other thing, so you have a 'marker' point in which to line up the footage, you can always say "1, 2, 3, MARK" once both camera are rolling, or make a loud clap... it's how they do it in movies with the 'Clapper'... you know, the "Take 10" thingy. lol. :-p

-Draz

[Paul]

Just watched the 2 videos. The one thing i did like in the second video that you did not do in the first is show the instructions first. It would give us an idea of what you are doing when you were putting the first part of the cockpit together. Maybe if you could flash it in the corner of the screen like Lee does in the monthly videos. Being a begginer i would also like to see in at least the first video what you sanded off i.e. any parting lines and how you removed them. Especially on the smaller parts. You would only need show it in the first video and just one or two parts. I did like how you showed how to remove the leftover spruce from the part but would have like to seen it done in the beginning. With the videos you kind of need to think that the viewer is putting the model together with you. Thats what I plan on doing. I think it would be a great group build for us beginners. It would be a good incentive to get us to post some builds. Sometime it can be intimidating when we see all the great stuff everyone puts out.

Hey george thanks for the feedback mate

Yeah i think ill open each part by showing the instructions and what i plan to do, i liked that myself when i watched it back.

With kits of the quality of the tamiya kits there isn't much to remove other than the sprue clippings, if there was any flash or marks i would show them on camera and how i would deal with them.

I like the idea of videoing them as if someone was building along with me, but i build them as if the modeller has a grasp on the modelling basics, other wise each video would be taken up with me explaining how to do something rather than showing the model built, thats why i did the basic techniques guide so i wouldn't have to keep showing how the mask a canopy or dry brush etc. I do talk about how i do things as i go though i just don't as in-depth as i would if it was a how to video. If i did the videos would be very similar and repetitive for each build.

Cheers mate

[Coen]

I've already given you my thoughts on the vids my friend.
We'd get used to the nudity eventually.


hahaha.

If I had any suggestion Paul... just be you dude. The off camera Paul is hysterical and a fun fella to chat with.
You be that guy on camera and you'd have more cheery as personal vids for the fellas here.
I can't give you much advise about filming... I just turn my camera on and talk crap for an hour.
I'm too lazy to be all fancy and professional. haha.
Just no farting, burping or too much swearing and you're golden!

[Paul]

As far as visual and audio quality go, I'm extremely pleased at what you put out. As far as content goes, I'd like to see some scratch building ideas or some "worst case scenarios", like dealing with horrible wing root gaps from filling to finish, or any other tragedy like painting mistakes or finish fixes. Not to puff too much smoke, but I've learned a great deal from your videos over the last year, so I hope you don't change too much.

Cheers!

The latest corsair vid and the next one have a little scratch building in them on the engine, nothing major just some wiring.

Trust me if i make a mistake you will see it on camera and ill explain how i rectify it, if you watch the latest technique vids you will see were i messed up a little on the wing masking and had to respray it, in hindsight i should have showed you how i fixed it and will do in future

The videos won't change much at all