Coen's Trumpy Challenger 2 Just paint :( hahaha

Post by **Coen** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:13 am

Well since Paulywog couldn't hold his wad anymore haha. The BB begins... I knew you couldn't wait till the weekend hahaha.
Kid in the candy store.
Of course I'm no better... and I feel shame... No I don't haha, and the only reason Nige has to wait is because he can't figure out how to be in two places at the same time. Sheesh... I thought everyone could do that.

So I'll be doing the exact same kit that Paul and Nigel are building. I think that I'll make this one an old fashioned photo build. I haven't done one in a long time and I haven't been spending anywhere near enough time on the forum since the holidays.
Time to fix that if I can.

So here's the obligitory sprue shots.

Lets get this party started!

And a video of my original box review that I did when Nigel first sent me the kit.
Cause that's who started this whole fiasco...
Nigel got me one.....
I got him one...
Paul got Chally envy and had to get one... then got hit with keeping up with Jone's and had to buy 4.32 tonnes of resin haha. (That I'll enjoy watching come together... it will look SOOO COOOL!!!!)

[youtube]fAZWnZnVomk[/youtube]

Post by **Tiger131** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:20 am

looking forward to seeing this coen and cool more vids for me to watch so stop talking and get building..ive got the tam version but ive only got the band tracks or i would join in

Post by **alextheblue** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:34 am

When I saw Paul's thread announcing this build I couldn't believe my luck - and now I see that both you and Nigel are also building the same thing, I'm checking the calendar to see if it's my birthday and Christmas all rolled into one!!!

I'd better stock up

Post by **Coen** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:38 am

It's CHally Day!!!

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:50 am

The Chally Challenge.

Post by **Coen** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:03 am

Haha... I like that one Ben

Post by **Paul** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:02 pm

Waheyyyyy

Post by **rsrdevon** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:14 pm

I have a trumpeter M1A1 Kit. is that close enough LOL. Will be fun to watch this one happen.

Post by **Paul** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:23 pm

Tiger131 wrote:looking forward to seeing this coen and cool more vids for me to watch so stop talking and get building..ive got the tam version but ive only got the band tracks or i would join in

It doesnt matter what you have, Gav is joining us with a tamiya chally, the more the merrier

Post by **Switcher** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:16 pm

Paul wrote:
Tiger131 wrote:looking forward to seeing this coen and cool more vids for me to watch so stop talking and get building..ive got the tam version but ive only got the band tracks or i would join in
It doesnt matter what you have, Gav is joining us with a tamiya chally, the more the merrier

So what are the dates for this GB again? I have a Tamiya as well...

Post by **Nige201980** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:43 pm

Just got in from work and I'm knackered and I see another thread on here I will get the box down and get sprune shots if I can be bothered to drag my backside of the sofa and up TWO flights of stairs to the stash yes my bedroom is on the top floor. So if I can I will post start a thread soon promise.

And mike it's your own fault you said you wanted one so the kit fairy made it so. Really looking forward to this build and from learning from two masters so bring it on.

http://m.youtube.com/user/MrBobsBuilds · Post by **Rob** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:17 pm

Well, this will be fun all round then!

Post by **wappynutter** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:48 pm

Good to see you doing a photo build back on ISM buddy....
Been a while...

Hope this kit throws itself together for all 3 of ya, .......well except Paul who has decided to add more Resin and PE than original kit to his!! Lol.....

Don't push that modelling mojo mate, candle, both ends etc...etc...
Take care and Happy Modelling .....

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:40 pm

where is your pile from "resin weekly"?

Post by **Paul** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:43 pm

MarkVerploeg wrote:where is your pile from "resin weekly"?

I think I've got it all lol

Post by **Coen** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:52 pm

I'll make up for my lack of resin with a diorama I think... I've got resin envy though.

Post by **Rodney** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:56 pm

What no PE??

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:07 pm

Looking forward to this Mike. What colour scheme you going for? I am tempted to do the black/bronze green scheme on mine.

Post by **Coen** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:26 am

Pink!

Hahaha.
I don't now yet Gav, I'm thinking the NATO colours. Recent deployment to Iraq... Maybe I don't know yet. I want to do more research and look at more photos before I decide for sure.
She's going to be battered all the hell though. Missing armour, mismatched wheels, chipped, rust, a real war pig!

I have a wee bit of PE Rodney... And some came with the kit. Mostly I'll be using stowage to dress her up

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:05 am

Well British tanks are only ever painted in two schemes. All over sand for desert, and bronze green/black camo for other ops. We don't use NATO tri-tone here, too good for that!

Post by **Coen** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:35 am

Arogant tossers. haha.
Desert it is then.
I might do this one cresting a berm or something.

Post by **Schoof** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:38 am

Gav0909 wrote:Well British tanks are only ever painted in two schemes. All over sand for desert, and bronze green/black camo for other ops. We don't use NATO tri-tone here, too good for that!

Yeah you're completely right. .... The NATO tri-tone is to good for that tank. .....

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:50 am

Ahem, Seb at least we still have MBTs............

Unlike your wonderful Dutch government who sold all of your Leopards!

Post by **Schoof** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:05 pm

Gav0909 wrote:Ahem, Seb at least we still have MBTs............

Unlike your wonderful Dutch government who sold all of your Leopards!

Most of them. .... Not all

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:20 pm

Gav0909 wrote:Ahem, Seb at least we still have MBTs............

Unlike your wonderful Dutch government who sold all of your Leopards!

the buyer back out as it seem the leopards are a bit hard to move
they are a bit heavy but they are all in top condition as they are fully revised
but we never had that many anyway

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:01 pm

Well you might have some, but they aren't in any active use anymore are they? I didn't realise this til recently that your governments budget cuts had resulted in getting rid (or trying to) of all your tanks. Guess they will keep trying to sell those they didn't.

Post by **Schoof** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:33 pm

Nah the way it looks now they are going to be reinstated the army chiefs of staff only now are realizing the importance of mbt's and are trying to convince the politicians to come back on their decision

Post by **Coen** » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:35 pm

So this will probably be the only vid that I do for a while on this, the rest will be in photos and text.
I'll be posting some shots after supper if things go as planned.

[youtube]e8J1rbp8sTU[/youtube]

Wheel assemble... straight forward... NOT... the return rollers are weird on this thing. The arms look like they go on straight by the rollers are angled. I couldn't find any reference shots of what it should look like other than pictures of model kits built up.
They look wonky to me.

The dry fit of the major parts... ZERO fit issues so far. What a mean looking machine she is.

Here's the suspension assembled and the wonky return rollers. You won't see them once the side skirts are on. Still it would be nice to know for sure how they were to be assembled. The kit instructions were no help.

The rear plate took me 3 hours to assemble... there must be 40 parts for it plus some PE... It looks cool but wow that was fiddly business.
There's a lot of gear on the rear of these machines.
I'll be spooling some wire onto that comms cable wheel at some point. I don't know why they didn't give any in the kit.

That's Freddy Duarte in the background... and some ugly bald dude taking pictures. haha.

I had one big fit issue with the kit so far and it may be user error that's caused it. I dry fitted the upper and lower hulls after I attached the rear plate and they wouldn't match up. Not without bending the upper hull in a weird way. What I might do is take the rear plate off and attach it after the upper and lower hulls are together. I might be able to get a better fit that way.
I'm pretty sure that I've screwed something up along the way.

I had a visit from Switcher yesterday morning, he'd come but to pick up some parts for his M3 Lee. In his wake he left a tiny panzer III knocked out on my bench, some artist's texture gel and a stippling brush. We had a nice chat and he's going to join the chally 2 BB with a Tamiya Chally 2
Cool!!!
Thanks Switcher

My Youtube Channel · Post by **NorthernSwede** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:07 pm

Looking really good so far. Think i´ll go with this kit aswell for my MBT collection.

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:05 pm

That's looking great dude.

Watched your vid too.

I'm going to have a look through my photos from the tank museum as they have a chally 2.

Might clear up the wheels and return roller positioning.

Post by **Paul** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:57 pm

Nice progress dude I'm not too far behind you progress wise.

And gups I'll look forward to seeing this pics if you can share them.

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:40 pm

Well it turns out I way more interested in world war 2 armour only have 2 pics of the Chally and neither are very helpful lol.

Sorry guys will make it a priority next time I go.

Post by **Paul** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:41 pm

T3hGuppy wrote:Well it turns out I way more interested in world war 2 armour only have 2 pics of the Chally and neither are very helpful lol.

Sorry guys will make it a priority next time I go.

Useless

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:48 pm

Paul wrote:
T3hGuppy wrote:Well it turns out I way more interested in world war 2 armour only have 2 pics of the Chally and neither are very helpful lol.

Sorry guys will make it a priority next time I go.
Useless

I know

Post by **Switcher** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:59 pm

UR

dude. Modern armour sure has a fear factor not really found on old armour albeit many were indeed revered. Looking good. I have put mine on the back burner to catch up on Nige'ls build. Watching this closely! Can't see what you mean wrt the return rollers.

Post by **Coen** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:16 am

There's no fixed dated Switcher, you can start whenever you want bud.
The return roller issue is kit specific I think.
I cut mine off and rebuilt them so that the rollers are straight now.

I had a great build session with Paul on skype last night, though he was leaking snot and blowing boogers all around his man cave the whole time.
Fun....
Hahaha.
Hope you're feeling better today bud. You looked like Shyte last night.

He's what I got done while Paul snotted up his unit.

I want this girl to be all battered by the desert and heavy use. I've seen a few shots were they weren't always so clean and pretty all the time.
So I popped some of the rivets and I'll be scratching her up. She'll have a rough paint job too.

I have some fit issues that need tending. The upper and lower hulls don't fit together very well. Both Paul and I had a bit of trouble getting them to sit right.

So I'm going to start some work on BT-7 for another build today, then this weekend I'll be working on Nigel's North African GB. I won't be back at this until Monday most likely.

Website · Post by **Gav0909** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:21 am

Mike, for your painting, remember the British vehicles in the desert were just painted the sand colour over the existing green colour. So might be worth doing a similar thing to your Leo 2, in painting it green first, and then wearing the sand colour back to the green.

And remember that modern MBTs aren't really made of shiny metallic steel under the paint, but rather composite materials, so chips won't go back to shiny metal like on say a big steel M4. And as a result I feel sure that these things don't rust either.

Hope you get the fit issues sorted dude.

Post by **Switcher** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:29 pm

Gav0909 wrote:Mike, for your painting, remember the British vehicles in the desert were just painted the sand colour over the existing green colour. So might be worth doing a similar thing to your Leo 2, in painting it green first, and then wearing the sand colour back to the green.

And remember that modern MBTs aren't really made of shiny metallic steel under the paint, but rather composite materials, so chips won't go back to shiny metal like on say a big steel M4. And as a result I feel sure that these things don't rust either.

Hope you get the fit issues sorted dude.

Thanks for the tip Gav. I sort of knew that and I appreciate the confirmation, not unlike camo being applied in the field vice 3rd line maintenance or the factory.

Post by **Switcher** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:33 pm

Coen wrote:There's no fixed dated Switcher, you can start whenever you want bud.
The return roller issue is kit specific I think.
I cut mine off and rebuilt them so that the rollers are straight now.

I had a great build session with Paul on skype last night, though he was leaking snot and blowing boogers all around his man cave the whole time.
Fun....
Hahaha.
Hope you're feeling better today bud. You looked like Shyte last night.

He's what I got done while Paul snotted up his unit.

... that's what you get when you cause 'puter splashes LOL. I guess my voodoo skills are still fully operational.

Delaying my start will allow me to see what you are doing. This will allow me to raise my skills one more notch

There is a method to my madness ya know. Nice work keep it up. Hey! where is the freaking popcorn? Oh, ok found it

Post by **Paul** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:31 pm

Im basically at the stage your at now mike, but ill overtake you today, boogers and snot permitting lol.

My build update will be up today

Post by **Coen** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:48 pm

Gav0909 wrote:Mike, for your painting, remember the British vehicles in the desert were just painted the sand colour over the existing green colour. So might be worth doing a similar thing to your Leo 2, in painting it green first, and then wearing the sand colour back to the green.

And remember that modern MBTs aren't really made of shiny metallic steel under the paint, but rather composite materials, so chips won't go back to shiny metal like on say a big steel M4. And as a result I feel sure that these things don't rust either.

Hope you get the fit issues sorted dude.

Thanks Gav,
The photo that I'm using for reference shows quite a bit of rust actually.. for a modern vehicle.
It's what inspired me to do the build the way I plan to.
The paint is wrecked, mismatched armour, rust, dirt. Just lovely.

A real veteran.
A clean tank is just .... Wrong! Blah.

I never use shine for my chipping. I may use it a bit on the OVM tools and on the edges of the track links, but never to show metal on the tank.
Even WWII tanks didn't do that. It would be a dull smooth grey if the metal was exposed through crew passage and the like, then it would rust right away if it was left alone.
Right after a ricochet or scratch there might be a bit of shine where it hit, but it would be all rusted by they end of the day or the next unless it was repaired.

These are just cool!!!

OOPS!!!

Post by **Paul** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:55 pm

That top pic was my inspiration for the dio I'm gonna do

Post by **Tiger131** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:04 pm

looking real nice some cracking detail on the back end

Post by **Coen** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:10 pm

I love my back end too Tiger

Good luck on your work today Paul.

Post by **EasyEight96** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:21 pm

Great progress Coen

hopefully I'll start mine soon

http://www.youtube.com/user/longlance67 · Post by **longlance67** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:21 pm

great start Micheal ! I love the Challie its such a lovely looking machine, one thing I'm wondering is that picture of the over turned tank.....how did they manage that as the ground is totally flat hahahah

must have been an Irish Driver hahah

great work my friend

Shane

Post by **Nige201980** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:02 pm

Looking good mate got a bit to catch up on by the looks of things lol

Post by **Coen** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:30 pm

He hit a moose.

Post by **wappynutter** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:32 pm

wow!!!!!!!
And double

wow!!! With those images... There excellent..

Nearly makes me wanna find some cash and join in the build!!
But alas, no funds for such an excellent kit at the moment! Shame..

Do like the pictures lots..
Good luck mate, she's gonna be awesome on a dio!

Post by **Jan01** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:34 pm

Coen wrote:He hit a moose.

Didn't know they had moose in the middle of the priare in Alberta