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Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:32 am
by ForbesHutton
Coen wrote:I know that's your schwimmwagen in there... Isn't that your ass too?
Was it you that sent me a pair of fallschimjager with a pair of donkeys?
No that's not my ass, mine's been following me everywhere since whenever.
Nope, didn't send you fallshimjagers.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:28 pm
by Hillbilly
Bacon candy?...and an ass........you're killing me

All joking aside that dio is going to be awesome,I think that the figures you chose fit the story perfectly

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:19 am
by Coen
Work began on the diorama now that all of the figures, vehicles, and buildings are constructed.
After the mockup I started building the shack out of popcicle sticks. All cut to various sizes to mimic 1/35 lumber as best as I could.
Normally I'll use coffee stirrers but I was all out. They're longer, thinner and skinnier so they better reflect 1/35 lumber. The popcicle sticks are more scale to a joist then a wall board.
Either way... it's what I had so it's what I used.
I've also altered the setting of the diorama a bit. It was going to be mid winter on the northeastern front of 1944. Now It's late summer, early fall on the same front. I'm tired of doing winter dios of late (I've built 8 in the last few months), so I wanted to do something different.
The problem with that is that I built a December 1943 issued Tiger I. There's weren't too many of those around in September/October of 1943.
But it's only a problem for the rivet counters, as I'm going to continue in spite of it. I'm sick of winter scenes at the moment. So there hahaha.
So I started with the shack. All the boards cut to shape using my Chopper and a hobby knife.
The Roof...


The frame...

The Mess...

Get to the Chopper....

The shack is incredibly simple to build and you can make it much more complicated if you want. (I may yet
)
I filmed a video on how to build a diorama and I'll link it below for any that are interested. I cover the construction in more detail in the video.
But it's not that hard. The most difficult part is visualising what you want to build and then building it from parts.




Then I mixed up some celluclay, added some burnt umber and raw umber paint to it and spread it all over the surface of the diorama.
I added it in two layers about 4-8 mm deep, with about 20 minutes between the layers. I do this because it tends to self-level when in thick piles or in mounds. If I let it dry for 20-30 minutes and add another layer the levelling effect is reduced. If I wanted to eliminate it, I would wait a day then add the second layer.
Once I built it up to the level that I wanted I smoothed out the "cake icing effect" where the celluclay takes on the look of sticky icing. You smooth that out with an artist's palette knife or something similar. Once you do that the surface looks more like a mud or wet ground. That's what you want. When it dries it will loose the shininess and look like earth.
After that I added surface texture to the wet celluclay. Some tallus, about 4 different kinds of sand, some coarse gravel, some crusher dust, and kitty litter for the road surface. I also added the furrow made by the tiger as she slide down the bank and the tracks of the bergepanther as she sat on the road. I didn't add tracks for the schwimmwagen as it's too light to make them on a gravel road.




I added some static grass to the area around the furrow as it's meant to represent the torn sod churned up by the passage of the tiger. It will all get painted when I come to that stage.
I marked out the fence posts and the fallen tress with a dowel and some cocktail sticks.


So now it will sit and dry for 3-5 days before I work on it again. It needs base paints for some of the texture materials, ground scatter, grasses, bushes, trees... still a ways to go yet.
Here's the video of the work so far, it's a bit over an hour long so I'll warn you now.
I'll be re-releasing it in April in a multipart series that will be broken up into many shorter videos.
[youtube]hZGu9L7XjsE[/youtube]
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:47 pm
by Filmman586
Great work Michael!
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:01 pm
by Hillbilly
Very nice groundwork,you really nailed the furrows the Tiger made sliding down the hill

I was wondering if you could get the same effect using Plaster of Paris? I was wondering as I have some left over from one of my kids school projects.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:39 pm
by OliveDrab
Superb work, just Superb

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:52 am
by SyntaxModels
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:34 am
by Nige99
Love the dio so far Mike

you got that texture bang to rights!! Can't wait to see more dude. 3-5 days

can I wait that long

well done buddy.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:55 am
by Kevinzane
Amazing man! Good work!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:02 am
by alextheblue
What an amazing build thread! First you show us your ass and then your chopper - what next!!
Seriously though, that ground work is amazing and I can't wait to see all this lovely modelling goodness come together!!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:49 pm
by Coen
Hillbilly wrote:Very nice groundwork,you really nailed the furrows the Tiger made sliding down the hill

I was wondering if you could get the same effect using Plaster of Paris? I was wondering as I have some left over from one of my kids school projects.
You could, it's the same sort of thing. Celluclay is just ground up paper and plaster of paris. Straight plaster of paris would be a bit more difficult to work with as it's a bit runny. So you'd have more layers. If you have drywall compound that would work as well, but it's very prone to cracking when it's too thick.
alextheblue wrote:What an amazing build thread! First you show us your ass and then your chopper - what next!!
Seriously though, that ground work is amazing and I can't wait to see all this lovely modelling goodness come together!!

I got my ass to the chopper hahaha.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:09 am
by Coen
Today I oil washed all three vehicles with some burnt umber, then flat coated them, but before I flat coated the Tiger I experimented with some Ultimate Dark Dirt on the zimmerit. I've been wanting to try the dark dirt on zim for some time but I just never had a good subject until now.
The great thing about clay based washes is that if applied to a gloss coat you can wash and remove quite easily, so it's worth experimenting with.
Before I forget though, I made an addition to the shack. I didn't like the shape of it and I wanted a more little house on the prairie look to it.




I added a good coat of the Ultimate dark dirt to only the areas that have zimmerit on them. The idea being to add shadow and a dirt effect to the zimmerit. Before it was a bit hard to see the zim, even after the oil wash. My hope was that this would bring it out a bit more.


I moistened a cotton bud and used it to remove the DD from only the raised surface of the zimmerit, leaving a large amount behind in the troughs of the zim.





A second experiment that I've been wanting to try for some time was a pin wash. Normally you would apply a pin wash to a flat coat, but I wanted to be able to to remove it if I didn't like the effect. The Ultimate DD worked excellently. I'll try it on a flat coat later today, but on a gloss it was perfect.
Here you can see it on all of the weld seams on the turret and upper deck of the hull.




So as a whole I was well pleased with the effects. I wouldn't use the DD on every vehicle or on every surface, more experimentation is needed for that to prove itself out, but for this application it's excellent. 












And in other news.... the bergepanther is oil washed an some Ultimate DD has been added to the floor of the working compartment (not like you could see it anyway) Then it the tiger and the schwimmwagen were flat coated with Alclad Flat coat.










And finally here is a video on the Ultimate Dark Dirt experiment.
[youtube]M5afGBSz5Bo[/youtube]
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 10:16 am
by alextheblue
All looking exceptionally spiffy.
Especially love the effect of the Ultimate DD on the zim, it stands out really well now and looks just perfect!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 11:37 am
by SyntaxModels
Great work there Mike! Loving all of this so far!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:14 pm
by CrazyMajor
This is some amazing work here. Not only myself was speachless but I managed to get serveral on my work college spechless. They loved your work.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:06 pm
by Coen
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:13 pm
by Yevgeny
Oh Coen!
You and your Tigers!!
I want to make one now!!!
And a diorama!!!!
It's all your fault.
Epic work by the way.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:17 pm
by Kingdan
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:02 am
by alextheblue
I see you baby, shaking that ass!
This is going to look spectacular - you really have a knack of bringing figures to life!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:46 am
by JediBoer
Wow, those figures look awesome, Sir! Do you mind sharing which paints you used for painting the figures?

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:50 am
by Coen
I use all sorts my friend. I don't stick to any one kind. Mostly what I have on hand. At the moment they're mostly painted in Vallejo Model Colour and Model Air, a bit of Life Colour, and some Mig's AMMO paint. I use oils for the washes.
I don't think that I could list off the colours that I used, there's about 30 or 40 with all of the figures combined.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:06 am
by JediBoer
Coen wrote:I use all sorts my friend. I don't stick to any one kind. Mostly what I have on hand. At the moment they're mostly painted in Vallejo Model Colour and Model Air, a bit of Life Colour, and some Mig's AMMO paint. I use oils for the washes.
I don't think that I could list off the colours that I used, there's about 30 or 40 with all of the figures combined.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Much appreciated. It helps a lot. I have attempted to paint some figures using Tamiya but have been struggling. I had much better success with Citadel paints and like them a lot. I've also recently got hold of some Ammo and AK paints which I still have to try out brush painting. But it seems everyone is saying Life Color and Vallejo for brush painting is the way to go.

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:12 am
by HamilkarBarkas
you do quick and efficient work there mike, it looks stunning

painting so many figures is very exhausting, but you feel like a semi-god after you have done them right? haha!
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:07 pm
by schweinhund227
That is a lot of work in a short amount of time.... man !
You are smoking through this one....
Well done on Both Kats ! The Old BergePanther is looking the part
even for an older kit !
Keep up the good work !

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:31 pm
by Hillbilly
Well done!Those figures are really going to bring this dio to life.

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:24 pm
by Hillbilly

outstanding work!Your eye for composition and detail is spot-on.

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:19 pm
by PaulAyrey
Simply awesome as usual sir!
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:22 pm
by jbellos1
That is really, really impressive work. Looks like you really enjoy doing it too!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:05 pm
by Kingdan

think I might just stop modeling and watch
Dan
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On the bench
Airfix 1/72 Saturn v rocket
Revell 1/24 red bull rb8 racing car
Oh and a couple of old bits of crap
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:54 pm
by Nev
Just awesome mate

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:59 pm
by Coen
Thanks guys, I finished it today. I should have the last post, video and the reveal done by tomorrow.
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:21 am
by Art17847
well i really am lost for words....i wish i could see ur work in person as sometimes i dont think the pics and vids do it justice....ur work is stunning...always well thought out and executed great job

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Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:12 pm
by Kevinzane
That is amazing! Great work!
Is the whole build up on youtube?
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:32 pm
by Hillbilly
Out-freaking-standing workmanship Mike!

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:49 pm
by andreb87
michael this is a masterpiece! really the setup is perfect! the bergepanther is my personal highlight! oh 1 thing just nice to know, they used the towing cables crossed over like an X when they used 2 of them!
like this
http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/ ... t-1944-45/
really a stunning diorama i love it!
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:00 pm
by Jmart95
Coen, she looks absolutely stunning and spot on to the real deal

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:09 pm
by schweinhund227
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:31 pm
by amsvkng
WoW

/Karim
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:42 pm
by HamilkarBarkas
For this great deed you shall be rewarded with the Pour le Merite.

Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:08 am
by Riderville
Re: Hero of the Soviet Union Tiger 212 1943
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:32 am
by Coen
Thanks fellas, really blushin now... Who's this Art dude?
