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Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:33 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Here is the Phantom... I had masked off the detail curves with cut Frisket and the large area with paper post it notes.
It was a tough paint job and this Blue/White for the Williams is challenging itself and then more so with large questionable gold and red decals to go on top
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:43 pm
by barryf1fan
That is freakin' beautiful paint, dude!! Yeah, the friskat stuff always worked well for me as long as it was on a flat surface, you could cut it or trim it into whatever shape you wanted (I mostly used it for RC car painting mask) as long as it wasn't around a curve or turn... awaiting your experience with it so you can share the tricks-of-the-trade to get it to work right.
THAT jet though!!

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:45 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
barryf1fan wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:43 pm
That is freakin' beautiful paint, dude!! Yeah, the friskat stuff always worked well for me as long as it was on a flat surface, you could cut it or trim it into whatever shape you wanted (I mostly used it for RC car painting mask) as long as it wasn't around a curve or turn... awaiting your experience with it so you can share the tricks-of-the-trade to get it to work right.
THAT jet though!!
Thanks Barry
That build is one of my all time favourite combo's....Phantom F4 + Thunderbirds
Loved making it

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:53 pm
by Kingdan
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:18 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Thanks for the vote of support mate
All depends on how the stuff behaves
Me, I will assuredly NOT behave

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:08 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:29 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Yep
...and I will start a gentle spray across the tape from behind it's edge instead of INTO the tape's edge
That way you are not forcing air+paint to go under your tape
Some times it is up to the model gods how it works out...you can do everything fine and it just tanks.
Hoping NOT that here
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:41 pm
by Kingdan
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:46 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Yep would work and a good idea as if I get initial bleed through, it would be white, then it dries and the blue canβt get under
Hmmm,

might have a think on that, good one Dan
You are on to something there
Holy shoot I painted the barge boards, the side flare things, blue tonight
GORGEOUS!!! Six drops of red into 10ml blue

I am getting excited about this paint now
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:55 pm
by jmurphy18
Looking good Scott! That color blue you came up with looks really rich on the body

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:18 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
jmurphy18 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:55 pm
Looking good Scott! That color blue you came up with looks really rich on the body
Thank you
Letβs all hope I have mixed enough to last...probably not

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:40 pm
by jmurphy18
would you like to borrow "Murphy's Law? Been using this law and excuse now for over 60 years LOL!!
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:50 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
jmurphy18 wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:40 pm
would you like to borrow "Murphy's Law? Been using this law and excuse now for over 60 years LOL!!
Oh I think Mr Murphy and his law visits me on a regular basis
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:52 pm
by Kingdan
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:08 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
I may have accidentally decanted more TS blue into another bottle just in case some dummy runs out of paint
I probably should mix it all together now so I don't have more than one batch as that is just asking for a shade match problem
Ya I will mix them all and add the touch of red
Some good ideas coming from your side of the pond, mate

..what have you done with the real Dan???

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:23 pm
by Kingdan
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:08 pm
I may have accidentally decanted more TS blue into another bottle just in case some dummy runs out of paint
I probably should mix it all together now so I don't have more than one batch as that is just asking for a shade match problem
Ya I will mix them all and add the touch of red
Some good ideas coming from your side of the pond, mate

..what have you done with the real Dan???
Hahahaha it must have been a bump to the head

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:11 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Little nudge forward with paint
I pooled all my decanted Blue , added red and got it into one bottle mixed well
Painted the front nose after adding a tape off for the white
Pretty happy with the blue I ended up with. More tomorrow and weekend where I will use the other Frisket masks

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:24 pm
by Kingdan
Yeah your gonna do fine with it I thinks,the blue is looking great


Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:03 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Kingdan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:24 pm
Yeah your gonna do fine with it I thinks,the blue is looking great

Thanks mate
Yes I think I will get this, just the variable of taping and how clean the lines can get
The Tamiya TS decanted paints spray an absolute treat, just love using those in the airbrush
I am for sure going to use your excellent white spray idea to seal the tape line
I have a four day weekend and it is forecasted rainy....so plan is to get the body fully painted up

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:47 pm
by Kingdan
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:03 pm
Kingdan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:24 pm
Yeah your gonna do fine with it I thinks,the blue is looking great

Thanks mate
Yes I think I will get this, just the variable of taping and how clean the lines can get
The Tamiya TS decanted paints spray an absolute treat, just love using those in the airbrush
I am for sure going to use your excellent white spray idea to seal the tape line
I have a four day weekend and it is forecasted rainy....so plan is to get the body fully painted up
Looking forward to seeing the results



Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:34 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:05 am
by jmurphy18
Looking good so far! Sitting watching the tube. Just finished stage 7 of the tour & now Xfinity @ Kansas with a glass of red to help pass the time

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:24 am
by Twokidsnosleep
jmurphy18 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:05 am
Looking good so far! Sitting watching the tube. Just finished stage 7 of the tour & now Xfinity @ Kansas with a glass of red to help pass the time
Make sure you get a rest, wouldnβt want to overdo it

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:54 am
by Twokidsnosleep
So here she sits overnight now letting all that lovely jubbly paint set up.
A few bits to touch up, but pretty ok with this
Next will be clear coat after a fine sand possibly tomorrow
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:09 am
by barryf1fan
Getting close... after your post yesterday I pulled out the Autocourse I have from '96/'97 and went through it. Ahh, reminiscing. Looking forward to the completion.

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:46 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
barryf1fan wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:09 am
Getting close... after your post yesterday I pulled out the Autocourse I have from '97/'97 and went through it. Ahh, reminiscing. Looking forward to the completion.
I had stopped watching F1 completely after Gilles Villeneuve died. Just stopped. No models. Nothing
So I completely missed Jacques run to the championship and battle vs the evil forces of Schumi and Ferrari
The race at Jerez was awesome to watch on replays, though he should have held for a podium placement
My favourite photos of Jarez
The bump
The spectator

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:03 pm
by jmurphy18

I got my rest now so I can comment

Your paint job looks awesome!

Very nicely done Scott! All that work is well worth the effort and time you have put into this model.
LOL another non Ferrari fan! You can tell when you watch the F1 announcers are big Ferrari fans.......
I do NASCAR, Indy Cars (CART) and IMSA. not much time left for F1. Like you in Indy cars I do not like Alex Rossi if he is dominating (I record the races on my DVR) I just delete the race

Do not like the dude
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:05 pm
by barryf1fan
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:46 pm
barryf1fan wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:09 am
Getting close... after your post yesterday I pulled out the Autocourse I have from '97/'97 and went through it. Ahh, reminiscing. Looking forward to the completion.
I had stopped watching F1 completely after Gilles Villeneuve died. Just stopped. No models. Nothing
So I completely missed Jacques run to the championship and battle vs the evil forces of Schumi and Ferrari
The race at Jerez was awesome to watch on replays, though he should have held for a podium placement
My favourite photos of Jarez
The bump
The spectator
Yeah, that was a great race... I was so sad when JV left IndyCar to go to F1 - but he became the biggest thorn in TGF's side, so it was great!! I miss Jerez, still get to watch it in MotoGP, but there are several F1 circuits I miss (and understand why they aren't on the calendar, for the various reasons).
I was fortunate it enough to be able to make the GP at Silverstone in 2000. Not only did my favorite driver at the time win the race, DC (David Coulthard in the McLaren), but TGF was stuck behind JV in the BAR Honda for pretty much the entire race ( They were running around 2,3 or 3,4..)!!

We were standing at Copse (which was turn 1 back then), and that was back when they had the old Pits (the ones the bikes use now) and Schumi tried to get JV in the pits... but you should have heard the crowd when JV came out in front of Schumi and about ran him off the track going into Maggotts, on cold tires, to keep the position. You'd thought that a Brit had just won the race. It was hilarious. Schumi was an awesome driver but not liked by the British.
Anyway, fun remembering some of those old races - others not so much...

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:34 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Got help me with TGF???
I canβt figure it out
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:45 pm
by Kingdan
That paint is looking sharp mate


Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:29 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Kingdan wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:45 pm
That paint is looking sharp mate

Cheers bud, pretty happy with it

.
I got some Gravity 2K laid down today over paint and over the decalled front and rear wings. No lifts or reactions so far
I dropped this still sticky wing taking it out for the pic, thankfully landed peanut butter side up and not down, but I got some fluff into it
Going to leave the rest until tomorrow. Then will do rest of the decals and do another Gravity clear over them
Damn they are so shiny, almost a bit too much so

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:53 am
by barryf1fan
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:34 pm
Got help me with TGF???
I canβt figure it out
That German Fellow... or, another "F" word.

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:55 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:08 pm
by Kingdan
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:05 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
OH SHITE.
One step forward, two steps back
I Gravity 2K cleared everything and not bad.
Then I did the large decals on top of the clear with intent of another layer of clear possibly over the decals. Maybe
This car altered its livery sponsors every race, so no way the logos were in the clear, they were on top.
Anyhow....cleared
While on a good decalling roll, I found I had lost a small section of the side stripe that has the Mirage logo.
Nowhere to be seen. Twice through the garbage, hands and knees floor, desk turned over. Shoot.
This logo
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Other sideβs decal is wrinkly
Found this on Internet
Going to office to try and print something out myself
#*%\}{#


Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 pm
by Kingdan
Damn son I'm sure you'll sort it mate

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:45 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Kingdan wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 pm
Damn son I'm sure you'll sort it mate
Getting there buddy, have a handful of home printer logos, see if I can make them into decals
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:30 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Oh cripes am I getting sick of this
Got the majority of the decals done.
The Mirage one I actually had to CA glue down into place...it was stiff as a board and would not curve. That takes the steam out of your mojo for a build, let me tell you.
Still some lines to connect and paint up, but really close for the body work.
Now just a few more details...ahh damn, I missed the front curve by the cockpit.
Ok more decals to do
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:04 am
by kiwigav
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:42 am
by Twokidsnosleep
She is getting really close now, last few little tidbits to add.
I am a bit worn out with the decal fiascos, so might finish the externals and not do the two internal side tunnels and electricals...we shall see. If I donβt do them now, I will never do them.
I think the shift will go over to the Bandai X -Wing now
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:34 am
by barryf1fan
However you do it, I, for one, am loving this iconic car. JV was one of my favorite drivers of that era. Whatever you decide to do - I support you.

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:12 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
barryf1fan wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:34 am
However you do it, I, for one, am loving this iconic car. JV was one of my favorite drivers of that era. Whatever you decide to do - I support you.
Cheers bud, thanks
Sometimes a bit away is all I need to push for full proper finish
She is done enough for the FB gb she was build for, just not done enough for me
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:45 pm
by jmurphy18
Your work looks awesome! Just think you kicked them off for lack of paying the bill or something
It is a real pain in the tail when you lose something !
Awesome so far dude!

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:30 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
She is so close to the finish line.
I am at a weird stage near the end of a build where I get completely sick of it and just want it done. That can lead to sloppiness and incomplete building and
it is a pattern I have noticed myself falling into.
My plan is to back off her for a couple weeks and dive into the X Wing. Once I get that rolling well, my interest for the Fw19 will re-spark and I will do the last bits.
Finish list:
*Last Rothmans decals
*Red pinstripe and Gold painted tape for the missing stripes
*Make the L/R air boxes and carbon fibre decal them
*Make the electrical stuff and detail wiring onto of air boxes
*antennae for nose
*camera thing on the snorkel
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:10 pm
by Kingdan
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:37 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Ya you smokers..I tells ya
Been the trend lately
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:52 pm
by Kingdan
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:37 pm
Ya you smokers..I tells ya
Been the trend lately


it does help trust me lol
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:18 pm
by jmurphy18
LOL, I know what you mean on pushing. I think having 2 builds help me on the NSX that I just finished. Remember those pictures of the two vultures? "patience heck I just want to kill something....

Pictures going up today of my NSX.
PS my wife calls me Mr 2nd day air or I want it yesterday.

Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:54 pm
by alextheblue
Re: Williams Renault FW 19
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:04 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Thanks Alex....I have the rest of the month to pick away at it according to my plans and time scheduled
It will get done