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Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 11:03 am
by Kevthemodeller
That turret is a kit in itself

More lovely PE work there mate, can't wait for the paint and weathering

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:02 pm
by BigWall
Very nice detailing! This is an amazing build!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 9:16 am
by Tomcat64
Great work on the turret interior mate - especially with that PE shell bin!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 7:45 pm
by Stokesy44
Well, I think this is the last major assembly. 44 pieces, mixed media, just over 2 hours
The cupola has been on the radar for a while now, mostly because on the video build I've been following, the builder stuffed it up so naturally I thought I would too
Its just your basic 2 layer sandwich with 5 sets of double vision blocks, coupled to panzer-glass vision ports with PE panels between them!
On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia!!
Buy hey, I've fought bigger battles before so here we go......
Here's the document of doom, leading me to ruin......
And then it all went rather smoothly. Cut, sand, glue, mask, repeat.
Test fitting the sandwich
Then it was on to the PE plate inserts. School boy error to start with, I put all 5 panels on upside down.
Managed to prize the f****** off and refitted them
This was the point where it fell apart on the video build

but thankfully it all seemed to slide in ok. The key was to drop the ring onto the lower part of the sandwich, not try and poke it through after both parts were together (like in the instructions) as the fit was so tight.
Nice and snug on the turret.
Long planned trip to my local model shop in the morning tomorrow then its priming time in the afternoon

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 8:06 pm
by BigWall
Top notch! It's looking great!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 11:10 pm
by Casper
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun May 30, 2021 2:01 am
by digger303
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 5:05 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 5:19 pm
by Tomcat64
Nice work mate - I had no idea you could cram so much junk into a cupola
The paintjob is really starting to bring it all to life too - really enjoying this one

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 8:14 pm
by BigWall
Once again, it's looking great!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:43 am
by digger303
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:44 am
by Stokesy44
Ha ha. As luck would have it I took a drive out to my local model shop on Sunday morning. I caved in and bought a couple of very nice kits. I also bought a tin of white and 2 tins of desert yellow!
My old white ran out Sunday afternoon - God is good.

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:52 am
by Stokesy44
Tomcat64 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 5:19 pm
Nice work mate - I had no idea you could cram so much junk into a cupola
The paintjob is really starting to bring it all to life too - really enjoying this one
Thanks mate. Its beginning to feel like the Lord of the Rings extended edition. It just keeps going and going......
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:08 am
by Kevthemodeller
That cupola is just amazing, as is the whole turret detail work mate

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:05 pm
by RangerNeil
Really looking forwards to seeing the finished kit - I was, and remain, gob-smacked by both the detail in the kit and the detailing being carried out.

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:17 am
by Garion77
I hadn't came back to this post for while...great to see the progress.... and still looking more than great ! keep up the good work
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:59 am
by BigWall
It's looking amazing and the patience to maintain this quality of work is definitely commendable. It's got to feel good to be reaching the end with the interior.
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 8:53 am
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:08 am
That cupola is just amazing, as is the whole turret detail work mate
RangerNeil wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 2:05 pm
Really looking forwards to seeing the finished kit - I was, and remain, gob-smacked by both the detail in the kit and the detailing being carried out.
Garion77 wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:17 am
I hadn't came back to this post for while...great to see the progress.... and still looking more than great ! keep up the good work
Thanks Guys
BigWall wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:59 am
It's looking amazing and the patience to maintain this quality of work is definitely commendable. It's got to feel good to be reaching the end with the interior.
Thanks mate It does feel good! I'm probably 1 serious oils session away from finishing. I need to do the various glazing finishes on the viewports and I still need to decal the radios but other than the shells, its almost there

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm
by bfrd
Having heard no objections, this build will be extended by 6 weeks. It will now end on 07.12.2021 at Midnight GMT.
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:41 am
by Stokesy44
bfrd wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm
Having heard no objections, this build will be extended by 6 weeks. It will now end on 07.12.2021 at Midnight GMT.
Awesome news. Thanks
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:16 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:03 pm
by BigWall
Absolutely superb man!
A little grease on that turret ring would probably keep it from rusting up on you.

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:43 am
by digger303
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:42 am
by Stokesy44
BigWall wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:03 pm
Absolutely superb man!
A little grease on that turret ring would probably keep it from rusting up on you.
Thanks for the encouragement.
As for the turret ring - true. I'm going to blacken it up a bit as there are bits of it that can be seen through the cupola and side hatches.
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:46 am
by Stokesy44
Cheers Digger. I put the turret on the vehicle last night, for the first time the kit can be seen in its 'all up' configuration. I'll load some pics tonight because it looks a proper beast now

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:23 am
by ElCapitan
It's looking awesome Stokesy!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:02 pm
by Stokesy44
ElCapitan wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:23 am
It's looking awesome Stokesy!
Thanks mate

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:11 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:17 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:22 pm
by Garion77
LOOKING GOOD !
Go habs Go !
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:15 am
by BigWall
I'd have to sell one of my boys just to have room to store that.
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:19 pm
by Stokesy44
Garion77 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:22 pm
LOOKING GOOD !
Go habs Go !
BigWall wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:15 am
I'd have to sell one of my boys just to have room to store that.
Thanks Guys
As mentioned, the return rollers, remaining wheels and tracks were up next
The rollers have got beautiful detail on them
I finished the remaining wheels then got to work on the tracks. Got 1 side finished and test fitted. Number of track links look spot on. I need to move the idler back a fraction - I think the sag is a little too much as it sits right now. Still, well pleased with the fact the Clanker is now technically 'a tank'.
I'll do the other side next - once the feeling has returned to my fingers!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:43 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Looking like a booming tank alright
Is it weird the rollers say ‘Continental’ on them
Kinda not so German?
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:12 am
by Stokesy44
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:43 pm
Looking like a booming tank alright
Is it weird the rollers say ‘Continental’ on them
Kinda not so German?
From Wikipedia
"Continental AG, commonly known as Continental or colloquially as Conti, is a German multinational automotive parts manufacturing company founded in 1871"
Truth is stranger than fiction
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:41 am
by BigWall
Looking great! Very nicely detailed
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:20 am
by Casper
wow nice work on the interior Stokesy

This kits amazing

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:43 pm
by Stokesy44
I feel like I'm in a Hitchcock film. The one where the depth of field keeps changing and the background suddenly seems further away?
I worked on the second set of tracks yesterday - 99 links, cut and sanded then guide horns added. Finished off with the track pins. Quite pleasant TBH, I decamped to the lounge and watched the sport while I worked.
That was yesterday. It was back in the den today. The work station was in need of a tidy as it was showing the effects of 4 months' work on the PZ4
Then it was time to get the hull ready for priming.
While inspecting the transmission hatch I noticed it was attached by bolts as per the bolt heads on the panel edges. I drilled out the corresponding holes in the hatch edges as I plan to leave the panel off
It was then that I found out the hatch didn't fit. Cue nearly 60 minutes of fettlin' and test fitting. The underside of the hatch has a lip that fits against the lip on the hull and it was this that was stopping it from sitting in properly. I got there in the end without damaging any of the edging which was a minor miracle!
Although the hatches and panels will be open for display I need them on the kit so I can paint them and also not have to mask all the entry points.
The rear deck was simpler
Then I remembered I hadn't done the tow cable or the rear mudguards. The instructions call for 300 mm for the cable.

Its nearer 350! Bad Trumpy!
Forward hatches added
Then buttoned down for priming
All I need to do now is remove the turret, mask the turret ring then the entire main hull and running gear can be primed!

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:51 am
by digger303
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:45 am
by BigWall
There's just not words. I've run out. This is a great build!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:22 am
by Parker
so good!
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:49 am
by Stokesy44
I think they're all there. They dont jump out at you like they would on a T34 but they're there.
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:52 am
by Stokesy44
Parker wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:22 amso good!
BigWall wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:45 am
There's just not words. I've run out. This is a great build!
Parker wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:22 amso good!
Thanks Gents. If by 'great', you mean 'long' then I completely agree!

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:41 am
by Tomcat64
Lovely work mate - you'd never have known there'd been a fit issue with that front hatch

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:56 am
by Kevthemodeller
Tomcat64 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:41 am
Lovely work mate - you'd never have known there'd been a fit issue with that front hatch

I'll second all that

the tracks look great mate. As for display I think you're going to need a new cabinet

I also think this my not be your last 1/16 armour kit

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:18 pm
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:56 am
Tomcat64 wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:41 am
Lovely work mate - you'd never have known there'd been a fit issue with that front hatch

I'll second all that

the tracks look great mate. As for display I think you're going to need a new cabinet

I also think this my not be your last 1/16 armour kit
Thanks guys. You know me too well. I do have a couple more beasties on the large side in the stash!
But never mind that s**t! PAINTING HAS BEGUN.
After working out a painting plan (I love a good plan, me) it was time to whip the turret off, seal up the hole and all hatches and access points and fire up the AB. After selecting the light grey magic juice from Ultimate, I shook it till I couldn't feel my arm anymore and got to work. I selected the grey because I reasoned the black would be too dark to cover with a desert scheme. I would have had to lay the paint on with a shovel to generate enough opacity me thinks.
After a bit of a false start - my bad because the needle was dirty

- I got going properly.
Usual result, the magic juice compensated for my shortcomings and went down nice and smooth.
Its been a while since I did the old wheels on sticks routine but after prizing off the rims I got to work. The return rollers, just visible at the back, will be primed in black then I'll use a mask for the yellow hubs.
Closed up the hatches and wrapped the turret basket. I'd earlier glued it together for the first time and added some filler around the joints at the front of the turret.
Then the hull. If just about fitted into the booth!
That's close of business today. Hope to get the return rollers primed tomorrow and the base coat on. Should also be painting the tracks in burnt iron too as their base color.

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 1:37 am
by digger303
Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:55 am
by Tomcat64
Great to see the paint finally going down mate - that looks like a lovely primer coat all over
I think Digger's right though - with the 88mm and this one (plus the others) you're going to be knocking through to next door an nicking some of their living room for display space

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:40 am
by Stokesy44
Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:55 am
Great to see the paint finally going down mate - that looks like a lovely primer coat all over
I think Digger's right though - with the 88mm and this one (plus the others) you're going to be knocking through to next door an nicking some of their living room for display space
I like what you're thinking Guys

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:06 am
by Kevthemodeller
Stokesy44 wrote: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:18 pm
But never mind that s**t! PAINTING HAS BEGUN.
Oh yes the painting
Couple of bottles/jars about to go down I think

Re: Stokesy's Desert Clanker - Trumpy 1/16 Pz IV Ausf.F2
Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:27 pm
by Casper