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Johnj wrote:Hi patrik, here are a couple of pictures.
Thank you John! :)

That is some stunning work and beautiful builds. Both cars look a *ell of a lot better then any Die cast models. :clap:

Liked that you got to paint the brand on the tires, just adds a lot to the realistic look in the end.
I have to buy me a Tamiya kit in the future. Feels like they are thinking more of the whole picture then just making parts that should be glued together and painted.

How hard is it to apply those carbon decals for an grown up amateur?

Your photos also got me thinking that i maybe should not spend too much time on detailing the engine and gearbox. Because the car will be displayed with the covers on. :geek:
Hi patrik, thank you for the very nice comments .

the decals go on really well, i'll be supprised if you have any trouble with them :thumb1:

Yeah, i hear what your saying about the detail with the covers on but your build is a very special car with huge historical significance partly for the reasons that sadden us the most with F1. If it was me i would go as far as possible with the detailing and carbon decals, this car is worth the effort and money.

You seem to be making good progress, keep up the good work :thumb1:
I will follow your suggestion John. I realized that its more important to at least try to detailing the engine then regret it later. Think i was a bit overwhelmed with all the details and the amount of work that needs to be done. I underestimated the kit when i first looked at the parts. (The jump from Revell to Fujimi is like night and day). :oops:

Thank you for answering my questions and i hope i/we get to see more of your great F1 builds. :cheers2:
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Let's say you can get a decent shine with the True Metal. The aluminums are good, but the stuff does rub off in your hands.
I am not able to airbrush at the moment, so the true metal is a good brush paint
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I I underestimated the kit when i first looked at the parts. (The jump from Revell to Fujimi is like night and day). :oops:
I learned how great builds Tamiya F1 were as an early teen when I got a Lotus JPS.
After destroying a hopeless pig Revell or AMT Indy car where the wheels were not designed to fit, turn or roll, the Tamiya kit absolutely blew me away.
I moved from those manufacturers immediately. In fact I mail ordered Tamiya kits as a kid from a guy in Ontario...years before the internet

Don't look at MFH, Manufacturer Hiro, from Japan. Those kits will make your head spin, mouth drool and wallet run for cover.
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:
Patrik72 wrote:
I I underestimated the kit when i first looked at the parts. (The jump from Revell to Fujimi is like night and day). :oops:
I learned how great builds Tamiya F1 were as an early teen when I got a Lotus JPS.
After destroying a hopeless pig Revell or AMT Indy car where the wheels were not designed to fit, turn or roll, the Tamiya kit absolutely blew me away.
I moved from those manufacturers immediately. In fact I mail ordered Tamiya kits as a kid from a guy in Ontario...years before the internet

Don't look at MFH, Manufacturer Hiro, from Japan. Those kits will make your head spin, mouth drool and wallet run for cover.
Too late Scott! Seen the Williams FW16 from MFH... :drool: Lets say that im happy that i saw the Fujimi kit first. :lol:

The Tamiya kits were things i could only dream about. Parents never bought one for me, or would of allowed me to spend that kind of money on a plastic model. Modelling was considered as a waste of money at our house. My parents never liked it and i never did a model together with my father. However i did a few models together with my younger brother later. From the age of 19-43 i did not do any models at all, which is a shame actually. But im back now! :D
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Did some exhausting work today... ;)
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Very nice heat staining, you are doing great :thumb2:
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Very nice pat look forward to seeing more
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:Very nice heat staining, you are doing great :thumb2:
Thank you Scott! :bow::

As you can probably tell. I did the left side first, got too much paint and too little fade. Im happy with the right side, the heat damage blends better because i was more careful not to apply as much paint as on the left side. Will redo the exhaust on the left side tomorrow. :)
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exmoor wrote:Very nice pat look forward to seeing more
Thanks Paul! :cheers2:

More will soon come. Working on the car a little every day. :D
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See I think it looks perfect. A bit different on each side and not fully symmetrical.
Real heat stains would be in a typical pattern location, but not perfectly symmetrical
HEY, I got my Revell....your Fujimi looks waaaaaay better
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Look to be a great kit be back for more progress :th: :pop:
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:See I think it looks perfect. A bit different on each side and not fully symmetrical.
Real heat stains would be in a typical pattern location, but not perfectly symmetrical
HEY, I got my Revell....your Fujimi looks waaaaaay better
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Congrats! :th:

How does the parts look like, flash,details etc etc...?

I´ll take a Williams over a Benetton every time, (at least over those were the cheating Briatore was team manager). :mrgreen:
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kiwigav wrote:Look to be a great kit be back for more progress :th: :pop:
Feels like a great kit, but it is in the hands of an amateur. But i will do my best to make it as nice as possible. :)

You are very welcome back! :th:
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So today i needed a break from the engine. Started to assemble the break-discs.

These are going to hopefully look like carbon discs. I used the Ultimate primer. But it does not stick that well to metal or i did not let it cure long enough.
I then used the Tamiya weathering kit to dab the disc with silver.

Its a bit trial and error since i never done a serious F1 kit. However i think this is the right direction, just need to make sure that the primer don't peel off so easy, maybe give it a matt coat before applying the silver.
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Johnj wrote:
Patrik72 wrote:
Thank you John! :)

That is some stunning work and beautiful builds. Both cars look a *ell of a lot better then any Die cast models. :clap:

Liked that you got to paint the brand on the tires, just adds a lot to the realistic look in the end.
I have to buy me a Tamiya kit in the future. Feels like they are thinking more of the whole picture then just making parts that should be glued together and painted.

How hard is it to apply those carbon decals for an grown up amateur?

Your photos also got me thinking that i maybe should not spend too much time on detailing the engine and gearbox. Because the car will be displayed with the covers on. :geek:
Hi patrik, thank you for the very nice comments .

the decals go on really well, i'll be supprised if you have any trouble with them :thumb1:

Yeah, i hear what your saying about the detail with the covers on but your build is a very special car with huge historical significance partly for the reasons that sadden us the most with F1. If it was me i would go as far as possible with the detailing and carbon decals, this car is worth the effort and money.

You seem to be making good progress, keep up the good work :thumb1:
I will follow your suggestion John. I realized that its more important to at least try to detailing the engine then regret it later. Think i was a bit overwhelmed with all the details and the amount of work that needs to be done. I underestimated the kit when i first looked at the parts. (The jump from Revell to Fujimi is like night and day). :oops:

Thank you for answering my questions and i hope i/we get to see more of your great F1 builds. :cheers2:
Hi patrik, yeah, the detailing sets are overwhelming at times the way i tackle them is by splitting the build into effectively several mini kits, usually just the engine then maybe chassis/cockpit and suspension/brakes.
You will quickly find out what works for you :thumb1: once you have a mental picture in your head of what is happening rather than just a countless pile of parts will make a difference.
your making good progress already and that exhaust staining looks superb ! Top job !!!

My next car build will be the Tamiya Enzo with the scale motorsport detail parts and carbon decals :thumb1:
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We so need to gang up and do a Formula 1 and racing vehicle GB/ SIG in the New Year.
I have eighteen 1/20 scale Tamiyas and some 1/12's as well plus a MFH Ferrari just screaming to be started.
This from the guy who doesn't have time to do any of the other builds he is committing himself to this Autumn :doh: :wall:

PS the brake rotors look great!!! :thumb2:
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:We so need to gang up and do a Formula 1 and racing vehicle GB/ SIG in the New Year.
I have eighteen 1/20 scale Tamiyas and some 1/12's as well plus a MFH Ferrari just screaming to be started.
This from the guy who doesn't have time to do any of the other builds he is committing himself to this Autumn :doh: :wall:

PS the brake rotors look great!!! :thumb2:
scott, when you get yourself sorted and set-up with the new place i would be up for that. From what i can see there are'nt that many F1 guys on here and a GB can only help. I have the tamiya 1/12 ferrari, williams and mclaren of the early 90's that i would love to get done, i've also been looking at the 'perfect parts' for those three. :thumb1:

I'm quite sure we wont have to twist patrik's arm too much so that would be at the very least 3 of us.
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Haha, (my arm needs no twisting) a SIG would be fun, since i have not entered any yet. Could be a combined SIG with F1 & Indycar? :th:

Thanks guys! :bow:: Needed a break from the engine, besides im pretty sure some of the carbon decals needs to be placed on the engine. :)


I asked on the live show about a F1 SIG. They suggested that we vote for a Race car Sig. They don't believe a F1Sig will have enough entries.
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Patrik72 wrote:Haha, (my arm needs no twisting) a SIG would be fun, since i have not entered any yet. Could be a combined SIG with F1 & Indycar? :th:

Thanks guys! :bow:: Needed a break from the engine, besides im pretty sure some of the carbon decals needs to be placed on the engine. :)


I asked on the live show about a F1 SIG. They suggested that we vote for a Race car Sig. They don't believe a F1Sig will have enough entries.
Yes, much wiser to go for race vehicles to broaden the subject...lots of cool bikes and LeMans cars, Indy and such to be included.
The more the merrier :cheers2:
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:
Patrik72 wrote:Haha, (my arm needs no twisting) a SIG would be fun, since i have not entered any yet. Could be a combined SIG with F1 & Indycar? :th:

Thanks guys! :bow:: Needed a break from the engine, besides im pretty sure some of the carbon decals needs to be placed on the engine. :)


I asked on the live show about a F1 SIG. They suggested that we vote for a Race car Sig. They don't believe a F1Sig will have enough entries.
Yes, much wiser to go for race vehicles to broaden the subject...lots of cool bikes and LeMans cars, Indy and such to be included.
The more the merrier :cheers2:
Totally agree!!! A race GB, where you can have F1, Indycars, LeMans Moto GP and specially, rally cars (and motos) is a brilliant idea!!! I'm in!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Hi pat the break disc look great i was wondering how i was going to do mine now i know a race sig would be good never done a sig before so yes i would give it a go
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exmoor wrote:Hi pat the break disc look great i was wondering how i was going to do mine now i know a race sig would be good never done a sig before so yes i would give it a go
Thanks Paul. :bow::

Do your discs like me, the illusion of carbon should work on your model also. :thumb1:
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Did continue on the brakes today. Added PE to the rear calipers and painted some PE for the discs.
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Then i took a break from that and fixed the tires. That seam-line is hard to get rid of. The sanding made the tires look like they been run a lap or two, and that im happy with. :)
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I could not help myself. I needed to know if things fit and line up. :lol:
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:
Patrik72 wrote:Haha, (my arm needs no twisting) a SIG would be fun, since i have not entered any yet. Could be a combined SIG with F1 & Indycar? :th:

Thanks guys! :bow:: Needed a break from the engine, besides im pretty sure some of the carbon decals needs to be placed on the engine. :)


I asked on the live show about a F1 SIG. They suggested that we vote for a Race car Sig. They don't believe a F1Sig will have enough entries.
Yes, much wiser to go for race vehicles to broaden the subject...lots of cool bikes and LeMans cars, Indy and such to be included.
The more the merrier :cheers2:
Yup! That is much better, a whole range of different motorsport vehicles in one Sig. :cheers2:

Dont know what i would build, only know that it will be from Tamiya. :D
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This is becoming my favorite thread to check on....getting that love for the F1 again :thumb2:
You are doing really well and the kit looks up to Tamiya level for sure
Ok so you have seen MFH, how about some of the Pocher 1/8 kits???? especially the old Alfa Romeo racers :thumb1:
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:This is becoming my favorite thread to check on....getting that love for the F1 again :thumb2:
You are doing really well and the kit looks up to Tamiya level for sure
Ok so you have seen MFH, how about some of the Pocher 1/8 kits???? especially the old Alfa Romeo racers :thumb1:
Thanks Scott! :bow::

Im retired, so i have all the time in the world to spend on building my kit. My updates are therefore a bit more frequent. :)

Only seen the Ferrari F40 by Pocher. Was not that impressed with the model considering the price. (I rather spend that kind of money on my other hobby). Maybe the Alfa´s are better and more detailed? :geek:
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Love the detail of this kit far better then revill
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Other hobby patrik, oh do tell ?
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exmoor wrote:Love the detail of this kit far better then revill
Its better then any Revell kit i ever built, but the skill level required is actually normal oob. :)
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Johnj wrote:Other hobby patrik, oh do tell ?
Well, i was very much into wristwatches. For a few years i only spent my money on collecting all kinds of manual and automatic watches. Today i have a few left, sold all the ones i really did not need. But i keep my eyes open if something of interest should surface. :ugeek: :)
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Ah, ok :thumb1: is that not something that you can earn a living at ?
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So we have that in common as well
My collection is very pedestrian, but I do love watches
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Johnj wrote:Ah, ok :thumb1: is that not something that you can earn a living at ?
Sure, if one can afford to buy vintage pieces of the high end brands. I cant unfortunately. :)
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Twokidsnosleep wrote:So we have that in common as well
My collection is very pedestrian, but I do love watches
Cool! :banana:

I cant say that my collection was/is any special among the general watch collectors. You know just as well as me that one can always buy more expensive watches and flash them around. But most watch lovers buy what they like for themselves, and in a price range that suits them. :)

I still have a Casio G-Shock next to my Omega for example. I use the Casio almost everyday. So im not the type who would take a dump on someones collection because they don't own a Patek Philippe.

So please share what you have in your collection, its always nice to hear what fellow watch lovers have. :th:
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Theres always a sting in the tail. I can only envy people who can make a living from what they love doing.
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Johnj wrote:Theres always a sting in the tail. I can only envy people who can make a living from what they love doing.
It does not sting for me. I never do things for the sake of impressing on people. Besides watches and scale-models are just material things. And once your dead one cant bring the stuff along. So they will end up being sold or in the trash. :)
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On Thursday I sent my Casio EQB-500D to Casio uk to be repaired :cry: but I have three more Casio watches and two are Red Bull racing versions
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Darn! Forgot to post today's update earlier. :oops:

I finished the assembly on the rear brakes. That is all i had time with. :)
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Davethepitch wrote:On Thursday I sent my Casio EQB-500D to Casio uk to be repaired :cry: but I have three more Casio watches and two are Red Bull racing versions
Aha, the smartwatch! :th: (Ok, i had to google it). ;) What happened to it?

Is rest also from the Edifice line?

I was looking at one of those Red Bull versions once, but ended up with a Tissot Sea-Touch. Have to point out though that i mostly bought/buy my watches pre-owned. :)
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Re: Fujimi 1/20 - Williams FW16 San Marino GP 1994 Deluxe Edition.

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The Bluetooth has stopped working and my other is an EQW-T1010RB-2AER plus a cheaper one.
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Re: Fujimi 1/20 - Williams FW16 San Marino GP 1994 Deluxe Edition.

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Davethepitch wrote:The Bluetooth has stopped working and my other is an EQW-T1010RB-2AER plus a cheaper one.
Cool watches! Casio is well worth their money. :th: :th:

I have a Casio Mudman G-9000, olive-green with the negative display.
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Thought i should give the rear brakes a bit of realism by adding a little brake dust. Don´t know if the difference can be seen on the photo.
Just took a paintbrush and went wild with the powder (pigment). The color is called chimney black. Then i blew gently away the powder that did not stick. I want this baby to look like it just been out qualifying and taken pole position. :)
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Since i been doing the brakes, why not continue with the tires and the rims. Im skipping the priming and painting part. That all went well.
So on to adding the decals. Here is a close up shoot of the two decal sheets. The one on the left is the aftermarket one that has the Rothmans tobacco logos. The right one, comes with the kit. Notice that the numbers are a bit larger and that the "blue" is not Rothmans/williams blue.
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Anyway back to the decaling of the wheels. Im sorry to say that, i messed up or its shitty decals. That ***king yellow ring thing did just not want to set on the inside or reach around completely on the outside. :evil: Its just snaked, twisted and made my day miserable. :wall: I using the decal solutions, Micro set and sol. Frak it! Im going to paint it yellow instead. Hopefully i will be able to remove the rubber without messing up the Good Year decals more than i already have. :doh:
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From now on. If it can be painted instead of using a decal. Then that's what im going to do.
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Patrik, i'm sure you can buy aftermarket stencil for painting the tyre, something similar the tamiya PE for the RB6 tyres.

Loving the detail on the brakes, well worth the effort :thumb1:
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Johnj wrote:Patrik, i'm sure you can buy aftermarket stencil for painting the tyre, something similar the tamiya PE for the RB6 tyres.

Loving the detail on the brakes, well worth the effort :thumb1:
Thanks John! :cheers2: I´ll look on ebay since im going to order the carbon tomorrow... :D

This wont do, just looks like a pile of crap. Probably by my own fault. :oops:
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Yeah, tyre decals are a no no ! If you can zoom in to the FW24's picture that i posted you will see them starting to peel off.

The rest of your build is superb as well :thumb1:
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Johnj wrote:Yeah, tyre decals are a no no ! If you can zoom in to the FW24's picture that i posted you will see them starting to peel off.

The rest of your build is superb as well :thumb1:
A big No No! My lack of decaling-skill really messed that wheel up. :lol: That is how one learns, from the mistakes. Thank you John for the kind words. :bow::

Template for the wheels, the Rothmans blue paint and the carbon decals are all ordered. All i can do now is wait. :dance:
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I've never been pleased with any tyre decaling i've done in the past patrik. Is this the first time you've had trouble with them ?
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Johnj wrote:I've never been pleased with any tyre decaling i've done in the past patrik. Is this the first time you've had trouble with them ?
Its the first time im building a car that needs decaling on the tires. Actually its my first time building a real kit of a car. (I dont count those small F1-cars from Heller i glued together many years ago). :lol:
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Patrik72 wrote:
Johnj wrote:I've never been pleased with any tyre decaling i've done in the past patrik. Is this the first time you've had trouble with them ?
Its the first time im building a car that needs decaling on the tires. Actually its my first time building a real kit of a car. (I dont count those small F1-cars from Heller i glued together many years ago). :lol:
This is your first serious build ? I'm blown away patrik ! Your a natural :thumb1:
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