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Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:47 am
by Tomcat64
I Like where you're heading with this mate!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:40 am
by Stokesy44
Tomcat64 wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:47 am
I Like where you're heading with this mate!
Off the edge into the abyss, quite probably

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:35 pm
by Stokesy44
OK, so I'm feeling a bit better about the base.
Did a good session on it today, all boxed in now and gaps filled in with foam debris ahead of the surface work.
Built the incline and put the first end on
Foam board work done, except for the shell holes work.
Popped the tank on for a quick looky look. I may build up the far bank to give it more height - not sure yet.
And this is the shot that's getting me all excited. If I can pull this off, it could look really good - but the dog's breakfast option is still there

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:32 pm
by Stokesy44
Greetings all
My apologies for the lack of updates. I've picked up some kind of bronchial infection that has laid me low. Haven't done much at the bench save for some more work on the foam board. Its not been interesting, or even any good to be honest - and I may ditch the dio idea altogether.
Once I'm feeling better I'll get back at it. I had a very short session this evening on the PE fenders and hopefully I will get fully back into things over the next few days.
I'm not dying, its just hard to concentrate when your eyes are stinging and you simply cannot stop coughing

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:52 pm
by digger303
Wishing for a speedy recovery
If you don't like the current dio may I venture one for you. Using what you already have it could be made into a small river rapids with the tank pushing upstream plus some figures advancing along the bank in a sneak up catch them unawares attack.
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:51 am
by Kevthemodeller
Best wishes mate get well soon

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:53 am
by Stokesy44
digger303 wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:52 pm
Wishing for a speedy recovery
If you don't like the current dio may I venture one for you. Using what you already have it could be made into a small river rapids with the tank pushing upstream plus some figures advancing along the bank in a sneak up catch them unawares attack.
Thanks mate
I like the ambition but river rapids may be beyond my current skill set!

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:59 am
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:51 am
Best wishes mate get well soon
Thanks mate. Did about an hour working on one of the front fenders last night and that was plenty long enough. Fender looks ok although I wouldn't want to spend too many sessions gluing edge to edge PE going forward. Got the hang of it in the end with a little bit of cheating so it was worth the effort.
Hope to do more today then post some pics.
On a more exciting note, took advantage of Black Friday at Emodels, got a whacking great 1/16 Panzer IV arriving tomorrow!

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:59 pm
by Stokesy44
Got fed up with feeling fed up so grabbed a bit more bench time today
Here's my PE kit, bending bug, straight edge grippers and a diamond file. Its great having this stuff for the rare occasions I work with PE. Makes things much more pleasant.
Here's last night's work, the left front guard and fender. It comes in 4 connected bits and you have to bend and coax it into shape before gluing.
I ended up reinforcing the joints on the underside with some CA soaked plastic rod. Its a cheat but you cant see it so no harm, no foul.
Similar with the other guard, only without the side fender attachment as per the historical pics.
These are the bits I'll need as per the pics of the real thing
And mounted on the hull with blu-tac for reference. I wont be including the thin connection strips as they seem to have been knocked off the original. No mangling done yet.
I aslo need to add the connecting lugs on the intact fender and drill the locating pin holes on the other one. In the pictures the left front fender is noticeably bent downwards so this piece is going to get a bit of a beating later on, same with the front fender on the other side which is properly mangled.
I'm undecided re the rear mudguards. They don't need mangling so I may just use the kit ones and think down the edges. Or maybe I'll accept the challenge and have a go at the PE ones.
It was good to be back at it but after 75 minutes I had really had enough. I know I'm a wuss, but dammit, I friggin hate being ill.
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:20 pm
by DrSprue
Wow some really nicely detailed PE work there Stokesy. Very cool. Sorry your a bit under the weather too.
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:39 pm
by TheNordus
Liking the look on those fenders. Hopefully the reinforcing ribs don't pop out when you start mangling them. I can hardly wait to get to work on my own Ardennes Tiger now, just got a few projects I need to finish first so I don't leave them tangling.
I should also clean up some space in my room so I could try doing a properly big diorama one of these days and have somewhere to set it on.
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:39 pm
by digger303
Nice Pe work....no such thing as cheating. It's called being clever !
It's all coming together nicely.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:41 am
by Stokesy44
DrSprue wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:20 pm
Wow some really nicely detailed PE work there Stokesy. Very cool. Sorry your a bit under the weather too.
Thanks Doctor. I'm glad I made the effort with them
TheNordus wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:39 pm
Liking the look on those fenders. Hopefully the reinforcing ribs don't pop out when you start mangling them. I can hardly wait to get to work on my own Ardennes Tiger now, just got a few projects I need to finish first so I don't leave them tangling.
I should also clean up some space in my room so I could try doing a properly big diorama one of these days and have somewhere to set it on.
Yeah, I'm hoping that too. I'll be careful when I work on them and will 'coax' the damage out of the fenders rather than 'inflict' it!
digger303 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:39 pm
Nice Pe work....no such thing as cheating. It's called being clever !
It's all coming together nicely.
Cheers, yes I do like a good cheat. I looked at the fenders and thought, 'its an edge to edge join of metal under stress - chance of success is essentially ZERO!' I wont tell anyone if you wont

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:09 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:59 am
Kevthemodeller wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:51 am
Best wishes mate get well soon
Thanks mate. Did about an hour working on one of the front fenders last night and that was plenty long enough. Fender looks ok although I wouldn't want to spend too many sessions gluing edge to edge PE going forward. Got the hang of it in the end with a little bit of cheating so it was worth the effort.
PE does really enhance a kit
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:59 pm
Got fed up with feeling fed up so grabbed a bit more bench time today
Here's my PE kit, bending bug, straight edge grippers and a diamond file. Its great having this stuff for the rare occasions I work with PE. Makes things much more pleasant.
Here's last night's work, the left front guard and fender. It comes in 4 connected bits and you have to bend and coax it into shape before gluing.
I ended up reinforcing the joints on the underside with some CA soaked plastic rod. Its a cheat but you cant see it so no harm, no foul.
Similar with the other guard, only without the side fender attachment as per the historical pics.
For my next armour builds with PE I'm going to give soldering a go, having seen a good few DVD's/Tube films you do get a much stronger better looking join. I used to be pretty good at soldering too, watch this space.
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:22 pm
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:09 pm
For my next armour builds with PE I'm going to give soldering a go, having seen a good few DVD's/Tube films you do get a much stronger better looking join. I used to be pretty good at soldering too, watch this space.
Brave man! That's definitely a bridge too far for me. If a tool requires power (save for my compressor) then its quite beyond me. I never got into using stuff like that and my DIY skills are limited to flat pack furniture and decorating.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:22 pm
by Milan
Looks sick!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:23 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Stokesy44 wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:22 pm
Brave man! That's definitely a bridge too far for me. If a tool requires power (save for my compressor) then its quite beyond me. I never got into using stuff like that and my DIY skills are limited to flat pack furniture and decorating.
I think you doing yourself a big disservice, mate.
You've mastered oil painting it's not that hard in my view just different

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:42 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:54 pm
by ElCapitan
Smashing!
Literally every time I see your updates I instantly want to build a tank!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:17 pm
by Stokesy44
ElCapitan wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:54 pm
Smashing!
Literally every time I see your updates I instantly want to build a tank!
Cheers mate
Go on, build a tank - you know you want to!

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pm
by ElCapitan
Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:17 pm
ElCapitan wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:54 pm
Smashing!
Literally every time I see your updates I instantly want to build a tank!
Cheers mate
Go on, build a tank - you know you want to!
I've got a Tamiya Challenger 2 ready and waiting!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:28 pm
by Stokesy44
ElCapitan wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pm
I've got a Tamiya Challenger 2 ready and waiting!
Now that sounds like a proper beast! Only built 1 post ww2 tank and was amazed how much bigger it was than it’s predecessors. A current MBT would be an absolute monster!
I can hear it calling you!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:37 am
by sthornton
looing good I have not built a dragon kit yet I have one so your built has inspired me to start it in new year
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:13 pm
by Stokesy44
sthornton wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:37 am
looing good I have not built a dragon kit yet I have one so your built has inspired me to start it in new year
Thanks and best of luck with your build.
If your careful with the instructions and don't mind a lot of parts then you get a really nice result. I don't tend to buy their brand new releases but their slightly older ones, if the price is right, are well worth it in my eyes.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:21 am
by sthornton
looking good what the kit like to build as I need to add a king tiger to my stash ?
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:38 am
by Stokesy44
sthornton wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:21 am
looking good what the kit like to build as I need to add a king tiger to my stash ?
Thank you.
It was a really nice build. Its a slightly older Dragon kit so it came with a metal barrel and magic tracks, you don't see those so much in the new releases. The paratroopers are a bonus if you want to do a diorama. I added the PE fenders because I wanted to detail them, there was nothing wrong with the kit versions.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:42 am
by sthornton
cool thanks mate
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:15 pm
by Mylightweight
This is looking great
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:02 am
by Tomcat64
Great work on the fenders mate - hope you're feeling well enough to start squirting some paint at this one in the near future!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:11 pm
by Stokesy44
Tomcat64 wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:02 am
Great work on the fenders mate - hope you're feeling well enough to start squirting some paint at this one in the near future!
Thanks mate, all better thanks but not back at painting yet. I have to have my kitchen window open for the spray booth hose and just too flippin cold at the mo.
Also, I'm quite enjoying just building away.....

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:04 pm
by spock1701
Great job on this one so far, Stokesy! Looks beautiful even without paint. Just back on the forum after a long absence, but I'll be sure to keep a close eye on this build
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:24 pm
by Stokesy44
spock1701 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:04 pm
Great job on this one so far, Stokesy! Looks beautiful even without paint. Just back on the forum after a long absence, but I'll be sure to keep a close eye on this build
Thanks mate and it’s great to see you back on the forum. Happy new year and looking forward to seeing your stuff and some good banter in 2018.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:42 pm
by HIghAltitudeScale
Good work on the kit and especially nice work with the PE, wow!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:39 am
by Stokesy44
HIghAltitudeScale wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:42 pm
Good work on the kit and especially nice work with the PE, wow!
Thanks Bret. Not sure whether to paint then mangle them or vice-versa. The tank I'm trying to copy had pretty smashed up fenders so they are not going to look nice and neat by the end of the build.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:41 pm
by Stokesy44
Now my Tiger 1 is done and on the shelf, its time to wheel out its much neglected big brother.
The fenders were only tacked on so I took those off and mounted them with the outer wheels for painting. They would only have got in the way when I was painting the lower hull and inner road wheels anyway.
A first for me, using Ultimate's new Gelb Primer. It sprayed beautifully, a couple of instances of tip dry but that was easily remedied. Coverage was nice and for once I was patient enough to lay down a mist first up then build the colour up nicely.
Forgive the tonal colour shifts in the pics, my iPhone camera has a mind off its own when it comes to colour washout. I'm seriously considering switching to my Cannon DSLR to get round the issue.
The finish is amazingly smooth, I've no idea how self-levelling paint works but I love it
Outer wheels and metal fenders
All ready for the camo now.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:42 pm
by TheNordus
Now you're making me wish I'd bought a bottle of Ultimate primer with my washes. Can't wait to see more progress on the diorama too!
I've still got a Tamiya King Tiger from the Ardennes Front and some Master Box paratroopers in my stash waiting for an Ardennes Dio.
I don't know if I should say this after the huge folly I made in your Tiger 1 thread relating to the machine gun plug, but I read Tiger 1s usually didn't have the cover for the ventilator installed as it blocked the fan from working and was only for submersing the tank. I wonder if it's the same for Tiger 2s.
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:50 pm
by DrSprue
Oh no... more wheeels!

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:53 pm
by Stokesy44
DrSprue wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:50 pm
Oh no... more wheeels!
Yep but at least I didn’t forget them this time!
They’re all present and accounted for, either on the tank or in the paint station..... I think

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:59 pm
by DrSprue
Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:53 pm
DrSprue wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:50 pm
Oh no... more wheeels!
Yep but at least I didn’t forget them this time!
They’re all present and accounted for, either on the tank or in the paint station..... I think
Cant wait to see another one Stokesy! Sounds like alot of fun!

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:31 pm
by ElCapitan
Yasss I was hoping I would see an update on this soon!
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:29 pm
by Stokesy44
ElCapitan wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:31 pm
Yasss I was hoping I would see an update on this soon!
Thanks mate.
It’s certainly been a while, I have to admit. Hope to get a lot done over the next few days. Camo and tracks by the weekend hopefully.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:00 pm
by Stokesy44
Only a small update today.
Painted the camo on the wheels and the aluminium on the wheel rims. Tamiya for the camo, Vallejo metal colour for the rims.
A few touch ups needed but with the tracks and outer wheels on it should all look ok,
Wet pigments next for behind the wheels on the lower hull. With roughly half of the fenders missing there will be a lot to see so I will be plastering it on

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:22 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:32 pm
by OneSmallStep1966
That’s looking great

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:30 am
by Tomcat64
Great to see you're moving along with this one now mate - looking forward to seeing it parked up next to its older brother

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:04 am
by Stokesy44
Tomcat64 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:30 am
Great to see you're moving along with this one now mate - looking forward to seeing it parked up next to its older brother
Thanks mate
I did put the hulls together a while back, younger Tigger made his older grizzled brother look a bit on the teeny tiny side

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:00 am
by digger303
Stokesy44 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:04 am
Tomcat64 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:30 am
Great to see you're moving along with this one now mate - looking forward to seeing it parked up next to its older brother
Thanks mate
I did put the hulls together a while back, younger Tigger made his older grizzled brother look a bit on the teeny tiny side
Go MAN Go

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:02 pm
by Stokesy44
Cheers mate, I'm going, I'm going
Ultimate Oxide primer for the tracks today. Its their newer product which is darker than their original offering so its perfect for track priming.
Here's the spare tracks, all set up on my Tamiya spray station - $40 plus tax, available from wesawyoucoming.net
The primer went down well, 30psi with just a little bit of tip dry, no dramas
Then it was on to the camo - or at least that was the plan.
While it was too cold to paint over the weekend I took my frustration out on the PE fenders, gave them a jolly good trashing as we say this side of the pond. Then after the track work this morning I masked off the wheels and tacked them to the hull ready for the camo.
It was at this point that I began to see the gelb primer I had applied to the hull was a bit weak in places. There were definite areas that lacked depth and some shadowing where parts of the hull had received very little direct spray. I kicked myself and decided to add some more primer. That put the kibosh on the camo for the day. I could have gone back to it later but its better to leave it for 24 hours. camo tomorrow hopefully.

Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:51 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Stokesy's Tiger II Ardennes 44
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:32 am
by Tomcat64
Nice! Very nice!
That Ultimate gelb really does lend itself to the paler shades used later in the war doesn't it.