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Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:02 pm
by R36adelaide
That's an insane amount of brake details, great work!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:51 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 12:30 pm
by LWWales
BOABModels wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:21 pm
LWWales wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:56 pm
BOABModels wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:31 pm
Awesome work!
I'm getting one photo etch set for mine so I won't be quite going to the same level of detail, but it's so interesting seeing your progress.
Awesome! What colour red did you go for?
R36adelaide wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:02 pm
That's an insane amount of brake details, great work!
Thanks man! Still sounds good! Can't wait to see the videos!
I look forward to making them too! The fluorescent red arrived yesterday so now it's just the photo etch!
Thanks mate!
Thank you! I'll be starting the engine today, that'll be a long one, there's so much detail!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:08 am
by LWWales
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:17 am
by Gary30
I've had issues with the Alclad black base too, you have to get everything spot on (pressure, distance, coat thickness etc) in order to get a smooth gloss coat, just takes a little practice to find what works for you.
It is easier going down the LP-1 route though probably!
The alclad base does look nice if you get it spot on though, then your top metal coats can be nice and thin and misted on and it comes out beautiful.
Front end looks mint!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:03 am
by Bdiddy
Great progress Luke, looking awesome!
Yep Alclad can be a bit of a pain, as Gary said you need a really good surface for the gloss black and then mist only a couple of light coats of chrome or else if it’s to heavy it ends up looking like aluminum. I’ve had issues with it rubbing off aswell, I’ve started using aqua gloss clear on top and it’s come out really nice, hasnt dulled the chrome much at all
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:52 pm
by LWWales
Gary30 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:17 am
I've had issues with the Alclad black base too, you have to get everything spot on (pressure, distance, coat thickness etc) in order to get a smooth gloss coat, just takes a little practice to find what works for you.
It is easier going down the LP-1 route though probably!
The alclad base does look nice if you get it spot on though, then your top metal coats can be nice and thin and misted on and it comes out beautiful.
Front end looks mint!
Thanks mate! Yeah I think I sprayed it wrong. Turned out nice with the LP-1!
Bdiddy wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:03 am
Great progress Luke, looking awesome!
Yep Alclad can be a bit of a pain, as Gary said you need a really good surface for the gloss black and then mist only a couple of light coats of chrome or else if it’s to heavy it ends up looking like aluminum. I’ve had issues with it rubbing off aswell, I’ve started using aqua gloss clear on top and it’s come out really nice, hasnt dulled the chrome much at all
Good idea! I'll have to try that. I buffed it afterwards with a cotton bud and it helped.
Got the engine started today. Lots of stuff to do. I've got some stuff ready to paint and some PE added ready for paint. Some tiny connectors and wires added.
Didn't take many photos today. Thanks for stopping by!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:24 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:30 pm
by BOABModels
Wow! So many fine details!
My PE parts came today. They are Perfect Parts.
I won't start it just yet, I think I need to work up the confidence to start!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:19 pm
by LWWales
BOABModels wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:30 pm
Wow! So many fine details!
My PE parts came today. They are Perfect Parts.
I won't start it just yet, I think I need to work up the confidence to start!
Thanks man!
Ah that's cool! I was wondering what came in the perfect parts set!
Thanks mate! Theres so much to do! Gonna get some in depth detail shots tomorrow, but I precariously placed everything I've done so far just get have a look.

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:19 pm
by LWWales
Got some closer shots of the detail! A little tidying up to do, though.
Had to make some bolts for the engine mounts. It's just two photoetch nuts and a little bit 0.3mm solder!
You can't see it here, though throttle linkage consisted of 15 parts, all no bigger than 3mm, is under the intake plenum.
Some detail on the injector harness/fuel rail.
Some dry runs. There's a lot of shimmying persuading to.do, though all the parts are currently not fixed in their final place.
The Alclad polished brass looks great on the electrical connectors, with a little Tamiya panel liner!
And another sneaky brake shot because I love them
Thanks again for taking a look!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:18 am
by BigWall
Super nice detail!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:33 pm
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:18 am
Super nice detail!
Thanks mate!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:45 pm
by Gary30
Wow! All looks great, those brakes are pornographic to a strange man like me

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:46 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Outstanding work!!!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:39 am
by BigWall
Very nice detailing!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:14 am
by LWWales
Gary30 wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:45 pm
Wow! All looks great, those brakes are pornographic to a strange man like me
Don't worry, I feel the same!

Thanks!
Thanks mate! Nearing the end of the little bits on the engine now, hopefully get some pictures up this evening!
BigWall wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:39 am
Very nice detailing!
Thanks for looking in!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:20 pm
by LWWales
Couple of engine bits done today and, the rear suspension is complete!
Got the exhausts and turbos painted too. Mocked them up on the engine.
Almost done with this. Added the yellow tape, just need to do the silver bits and it's ready to install!
Thanks for dropping by as always!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:02 am
by BigWall
Very nice. The rear end detailing is amazing.
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:32 am
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:02 am
Very nice. The rear end detailing is amazing.
Thanks man! Seems your enjoying this one. Thanks for keeping an eye on it!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:43 pm
by LWWales
A few pictures of where I'm at!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:54 pm
by Hornet78
She's a beauty...
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:48 pm
by LWWales
Hornet78 wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:54 pm
She's a beauty...
Thanks man!
Sorry it's been a while, guys, I've been having problems with not just mojo, just everything, not fancied doing anything except sitting in front of the TV. Feeling better now and got the cockpit, belts and wheels done today!
The buckles on the seat belts work, amazingly!
The steering wheel was fun, as was the instrument panel.
Tyre stencils were brilliant, looks so much better than decals, in my opinion!
Thanks for stopping by guys! I'm on the home stretch, it seems!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:05 pm
by BOABModels
LWWales wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:48 pm
Tyre stencils were brilliant, looks so much better than decals, in my opinion!
Thanks for stopping by guys! I'm on the home stretch, it seems!
Sorry to hear about the mojo. I've been there myself.
Those tyres do look excellent! Did the stencils come with the PE set?
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:28 pm
by LWWales
BOABModels wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:05 pm
LWWales wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:48 pm
Tyre stencils were brilliant, looks so much better than decals, in my opinion!
Thanks for stopping by guys! I'm on the home stretch, it seems!
Sorry to hear about the mojo. I've been there myself.
Those tyres do look excellent! Did the stencils come with the PE set?
It sucks! But, all good now.
Thank you! The stencil came with the detail set, yes, and one also came with the Hobby Design decals

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:37 pm
by BOABModels
LWWales wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:28 pm
BOABModels wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:05 pm
LWWales wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:48 pm
Tyre stencils were brilliant, looks so much better than decals, in my opinion!
Thanks for stopping by guys! I'm on the home stretch, it seems!
Sorry to hear about the mojo. I've been there myself.
Those tyres do look excellent! Did the stencils come with the PE set?
It sucks! But, all good now.
Thank you! The stencil came with the detail set, yes, and one also came with the Hobby Design decals
Nice! There aren't any stencils in the photo etch set I have but I'll probably just use the decals.
Keep up the good work! Looks worthy of Senna and Prost themselves!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:09 am
by BigWall
those tires do look great!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:17 pm
by LWWales
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:58 pm
by BigWall
Nice! The cockpit is looking sweet
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:10 am
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:58 pm
Nice! The cockpit is looking sweet
Thank you!
I'm.going to get the front end buttoned up today and start the wiring!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:52 pm
by LWWales
Finally got the engine in!
The radiator pods are on, too, though the intercoolers position needs a little fiddling.
Test fitting while I adjust the ride height.

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:00 pm
by BigWall
This is coming along absolutely beautifully!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:34 am
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:00 pm
This is coming along absolutely beautifully!
Thanks mate!
I was able to sand away the inside of the shell and so far, I've actually been able to make it fit over all the extra PE and resin parts. I was worried it wouldn't fit very well after all the extras and the cutting and refitting of the radiator pods.
It'll be displayed without the body on, but I want to get pictures with it on!
Thanks for looking in

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:26 pm
by Mpfiend
Very nice progress, it's always a nice feeling when the body fits correctly.
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:48 pm
by LWWales
Mpfiend wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:26 pm
Very nice progress, it's always a nice feeling when the body fits correctly.
Thanks mate! Yeah, I was extremely relived, haha
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 pm
by LWWales
Got the paint down today! Love the Mr Hobby colour!
Nearing completion on this, going to have to build a base soon!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:26 pm
by BOABModels
LWWales wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 pm
Got the paint down today! Love the Mr Hobby colour!
Nearing completion on this, going to have to build a base soon!
Very nice! Did you photocopy the decals in the end?
I'll do the same when I build mine except I have the Tamiya TS fluro red. I can't remember the number!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:30 pm
by LWWales
BOABModels wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:26 pm
LWWales wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 pm
Got the paint down today! Love the Mr Hobby colour!
Nearing completion on this, going to have to build a base soon!
Very nice! Did you photocopy the decals in the end?
I'll do the same when I build mine except I have the Tamiya TS fluro red. I can't remember the number!
I did indeed! Pretty happy with the demarcation, too.
Made a start on the decals too, hobby design decals are a pleasure to work with.

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:39 pm
by BigWall
That is looking absolutely amazing!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:06 pm
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:39 pm
That is looking absolutely amazing!
Thanks mate!
Almost done with this one! I need to do the wiring and add some final details, then it's time for final assembly and a photo shoot!
Here's a sneak peek.

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 am
by BigWall
Very cool. This is going to look great!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:55 am
by Tomcat64
Just caught up with this thread - that's an insane amount of detailing & scratch building
Absolutely awesome work throughout and the bodywork is beautiful.
Top job mate - stunning

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:03 pm
by Shunter
Looks stunning
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:52 pm
by digger303
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:21 pm
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 am
Very cool. This is going to look great!
Thank you!
Tomcat64 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:55 am
Just caught up with this thread - that's an insane amount of detailing & scratch building
Absolutely awesome work throughout and the bodywork is beautiful.
Top job mate - stunning
Thank you sir! It's been super fun, though the scratch building did test me. When it came to fitting it all.together, there was a lot if wiggling and swearing!
Shunter wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:03 pm
Looks stunning
Thanks mate!
Thank you, these comments really spur me along!
Well, she's finally done! Detailed photos and reveal thread to.follow, thanks all for the encouragement along the way!

Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:56 am
by BigWall
Dude! That's absolutely sweet!
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:31 am
by LWWales
BigWall wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:56 am
Dude! That's absolutely sweet!
Thanks mate!
Reveal is up!
viewtopic.php?f=46&t=28938&p=359522#p359522
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:48 am
by pg265
Hi,
WOW!! ...WOW! WOW!!!!
Impressive build!
Already built one when the Top Studio set appeared and have another one to do.
I really like the way you replicate the carbon aspect on the monocoque and loooove your disc brakes and calipers.
I’ve always been surprised the calipers install on the hub wasn’t better reproduced...
Well done!!
Pascal
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:31 pm
by LWWales
pg265 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:48 am
Hi,
WOW!! ...WOW! WOW!!!!
Impressive build!
Already built one when the Top Studio set appeared and have another one to do.
I really like the way you replicate the carbon aspect on the monocoque and loooove your disc brakes and calipers.
I’ve always been surprised the calipers install on the hub wasn’t better reproduced...
Well done!!
Pascal
Thank you, Pascal!
I thoroughly enjoyed the build, and in envious you have the stuff to build another, I'd love to do it all again!
I think the breaks were my favourite part, too. The kit part all moulded as one was rather underwhelming.
Re: 1/20 Tamiya McLaren MP4/4 - Senna.
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:59 am
by Kevthemodeller
Superb build, lovely detailing work
