Seems both us have to push on for fit issues !! although yours a lot more ! Still struggling with the seam on the underside for mine as the distorsion of the body is causing me lots of headaches repairing it finally...
keep on the great work !
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:02 am
by digger303
Garion77 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:07 pm
Seems both us have to push on for fit issues !! although yours a lot more ! Still struggling with the seam on the underside for mine as the distorsion of the body is causing me lots of headaches repairing it finally...
keep on the great work !
Seems I wasn't as close to the paint as I thought. Well I did get some primer on then saw how terrible a job I had made of it. So it was a step backwards and back to cleaning glue and smoothing off the plastic. The plastic seems so easly to damage.
Thanks for looking in.
Garion77 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:07 pm
Seems both us have to push on for fit issues !! although yours a lot more ! Still struggling with the seam on the underside for mine as the distorsion of the body is causing me lots of headaches repairing it finally...
keep on the great work !
Seems I wasn't as close to the paint as I thought. Well I did get some primer on then saw how terrible a job I had made of it. So it was a step backwards and back to cleaning glue and smoothing off the plastic. The plastic seems so easly to damage.
Thanks for looking in.
With all those goodies inside its no wonder its bursting at the seams!
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:28 am
by digger303
Hello everyone it's been far to long since my last update. I had a little problem since my computer last updated with the computer not recognising my phone when I tether it via usb.
It takes me a age to work out these technical issues never the less I managed a wifi connect and transferred the pic's that way.
Trying something new with the aim of highlighting the ribs and the linen streched over them. I started this process by using the voyager
template creating masking strips. I should have remembered I have rolls of the extra thin tape and saved myself some time...
High lighting areas
A light off white to reduce the starkness and blend it a little for the under sides and a green for the top sides.
Removed the tape and then using a heavily thinned paint in this case green to blend it some more. I couldn't help , but pose it with the top wing on
Next thing was to mask off the wooden clear finished around the cockpit.
Once that was done then I laid down a base coat of a acrylic light yellow. A light brown was then sprayed through a wood panel stencil and after that and enamel AK brown WOOD wash. This went on way too heavy and dark even after I had thinned it so I got a dry brush to soak some of it up. This did what I wanted , but was still dark so I grabbed a tissue and wiped it heavily resulting in what you see now.
Thanks for tuning in guys I appreciate the comments good or bad....it all helps.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:06 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Looking great
Like the effect of the tape on the wings
Looks really good with the top wing in place
Excellent!
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:54 am
by DRUMS01
I agree, nice paint striping and blending, neat effect. The wood treatment is not bad either. This is adding up to be quite an achievement, considering its humble beginnings.
Great job digger!
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:41 am
by Stokesy44
Beautiful paint effects with the taping
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:49 pm
by digger303
Thanks guys much appreciated....
The mask set I'm using
First the outside square in white. Bit of a bugger to cover when going over a light back ground, but over a dark base and it's easy....weird.
I've gone back over the the brown with a clear yellow acrylic ink I had stashed away and quite please with the effect.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:02 pm
by Garion77
Wow ! beautiful work my friend ! the paint job is amazing ! and the wood effect on the fuselage is perfect ! I have know lots of catching up to do !
Keep on the good work !
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:48 am
by digger303
Not so amazing when you look close Francis and unfortunately I have had a fiasco with my u beaut bought masks.
The mask is made from a material which is both a little thick and stiff and tends to shrink. That's why you can see the white backing paper where the cut outs are.
So actually applying the masks that are too small results in gaps. I did try to make that space up with masking tape and the left over used portions of the kit....Wasn't my best idea I should have just used masking tape exclusively. Now I have this mess to clean up
The tape being stiff and the adhesive being weakish. Much less so than Tamiya tape it lifted in places despite being burnished down. So some sprayed under the mask...more mess.
Never using that crap again.It would be fine if it hadn't shrunk and was on a flat surface is the only good thing I can say about it.
Whoo...deep breath
Ps... The name of the manufacturer of that mask set is...Model Maker Decals out of Poland.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 1:56 am
by BigWall
It's a very smart looking build Digger! Great job
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:56 am
by digger303
BigWall wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:56 am
It's a very smart looking build Digger! Great job
Thank you. It does have loads of my self induced flaws and my patience with this is waning.
It has been huge gaps in new updates with this build and I haven't progressed much further.
I added some ezee line rigging, which took longer than I thought as the line actually resists bending so getting the two bits together to CA them required me to twist the bits together.
I cut those bits of foam in order to get the two wings the right distance apart and also to hold them in place while I fiddle with the struts. I forgot to gloss coat and protect the paint in my haste to actually achieve some progress. The insulation foam is abrasive so I have a couple of paint less bits. Very frustrating as all the paint layers are going to be spoiled.
Elastic bands are to help pull the wing up and also to keep the struts firm whilst the glue is setting.
Side view.
Procrastination is dragging this out, but I shall finish it
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:55 pm
by digger303
Been a very long time and for the sake of the record this is where I'm up to after much procrastination and many errors.
I've just dry fitted the wheels and prop.
Still some paint to do, varnish and a decal.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:49 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Some lovely work going on there mate
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:52 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Yep, keep at her
Once you get a rhythm, the rigging ticks along fine
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:33 pm
by digger303
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 4:52 pm
Yep, keep at her
Once you get a rhythm, the rigging ticks along fine
The drum beat very slow
The rigging is done, but now I've got a awful decal problem.
The decals after doing this test first didn't go well.
and another went the same way. On the third try I first applied Microscale decal film repair and this was a improvement at least the decals didn't shatter.
So I took the plunge and applied these almost irreplaceable decals well without having to send to Poland for another set.
However as you can see the blighters just wouldn't stay down flat. It seems the Microscale when it dries shrinks a little causing the whole thing to curl up once released from the backing paper. It was worse than this, but with multiple applications of VMS decal set and soften I managed to get half the curl out. I think some CA is in order plus some white glue, but I doubt I can fix it 100%.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:55 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Oh shite
? Aftermarket decals avaliable …at least similar ones
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:33 am
by digger303
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:55 pm
Oh shite
? Aftermarket decals avaliable …at least similar ones
Those are the after market and they are in Poland.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:02 am
by Stokesy44
I hate it when, despite what you do, you're let down by poor products. The least we should be able to expect from a decal is that its sits down on a basically flat surface. Decals can make or break a kit and I hate being held hostage when they turn out to be shite.
I feel for you mate
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:33 pm
by digger303
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:02 am
I hate it when, despite what you do, you're let down by poor products. The least we should be able to expect from a decal is that its sits down on a basically flat surface. Decals can make or break a kit and I hate being held hostage when they turn out to be shite.
I feel for you mate
Thanks mate.
It's just another problem in a long line. Good news though they are now 95% flat...Ca to the rescue
I think I'm to the point of applying the matte varnish. I have to do a last inspection tomorrow then it's a go.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:11 pm
by Garion77
Haven't posted or commented for a quite a while on the forum, I thought my first one should be for you, and our common build ! Even if already knew about your progress. Just wanted to say here nice work ! even with all the obstacles. Love the color and love you wood effect on the fuselage, which is much better than mine.
And thank you.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:13 am
by digger303
Garion77 wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 1:11 pm
Haven't posted or commented for a quite a while on the forum, I thought my first one should be for you, and our common build ! Even if already knew about your progress. Just wanted to say here nice work ! even with all the obstacles. Love the color and love you wood effect on the fuselage, which is much better than mine.
And thank you.
Your very kind, but I may have mucked it up as the dark pattern was a acrylic and I sprayed aqua gloss over some of it. I don't want to sand it back and muck it up more so I'm hoping the matte will maybe not fix it , but hid it.
Your very kind, but I may have mucked it up as the dark pattern was a acrylic and I sprayed aqua gloss over some of it. I don't want to sand it back and muck it up more so I'm hoping the matte will maybe not fix it , but hid it.
Your very kind, but I may have mucked it up as the dark pattern was a acrylic and I sprayed aqua gloss over some of it. I don't want to sand it back and muck it up more so I'm hoping the matte will maybe not fix it , but hid it.
No reason why it shouldn't matt it down nicely.
It's a bit rough and when I first did it it looked like I had reactivated the dark paint. The feul/oil caps don't look to bad when you spet back the required 3 feet
Here I have dropped my phone on the Camel....PE just isn't strong enough. It already have a side ways bend and I have my doubts that it will ever be good enough to sit on the shelf unaided. I may put some pins in the bottom of the under carriage for it it to sit on.
I'm getting closer to the line.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:41 pm
by digger303
Getting near the end now and I just came across this and it is interesting to any builder of Camels after all it did shoot down more enemy aircraft than any other type even though it is slower. There's also a interesting explanation of why this is tricky to fly and the way a rotary engine works.
cheers
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:30 am
by DRUMS01
Your modeling on this from the basic kit to what you have is amazing! This is either a labor of love or fortitude.
I feel your pain on those decals... Perhaps you will be lucky and the varnish will lay them down the rest of the way(?)
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:27 pm
by digger303
DRUMS01 wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 12:30 am
Your modelling on this from the basic kit to what you have is amazing! This is either a labor of love or fortitude.
I feel your pain on those decals... Perhaps you will be lucky and the varnish will lay them down the rest of the way(?)
Your too kind it's got loads of mistakes someone else wouldn't have made and I gave up on., but I thank you for the kind words.
OH definitely fortitude or the way I read it....just thick in the head !
The one decal did lift a bit . It was the first one I did one the other side of the fuselage I changed tack a bit. Using VMS decal solution I added some to the decal while it was on the backing paper and after a bit placed it into the water. When it separated I applied it as per normal with some solution applied to the fuselage, slipped the decal on then did the usual with a cotton bud to remove the excess and squeeze the air bubbles out. It went down quite well.
Can see the decal lift here.
Paint has a few blemishes. Could be a masking tape problem leaving tape glue residue. I'm having a similar issue with another kit and don't know how to remove it as anything I try is removing paint too, if I had a varnish layer in there it wouldn't be a issue. Can't always do that though.
It's on the shelf now...thank the lordy
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:27 pm
by SNautRight
Are there any rigging tutorials on ISM? To be found where?
Thank you, Just wish the tape residue wasn't a problem more than anything.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:52 pm
by Garion77
A stunning finish ! Congrats my friend ! you are too hard on yourself. Love the wheels, the wings, and the propeller.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:42 am
by digger303
SNautRight wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:27 pm
Are there any rigging tutorials on ISM? To be found where?
Not sure I haven't seen one.
I used utube.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:06 pm
by Phillip1
digger303-You have done a really nice job on this model! I really like the color variation of the green paint finish and also think the wood panel effect is first rate. Bi-planes are harder model airplanes to build.
Phillip1
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:56 pm
by RangerNeil
Looks a cracking build to me Digger - well done!!
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:48 am
by Stokesy44
RangerNeil wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:56 pm
Looks a cracking build to me Digger - well done!!
RangerNeil wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:56 pm
Looks a cracking build to me Digger - well done!!
Agree - quality work and great perseverance too.
RangerNeil wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:56 pm
Looks a cracking build to me Digger - well done!!
Kevthemodeller wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:04 pm
Turned out really nice digger
Phillip1 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:06 pm
digger303-You have done a really nice job on this model! I really like the color variation of the green paint finish and also think the wood panel effect is first rate. Bi-planes are harder model airplanes to build.
Phillip1
Thanks guys your too kind.
Re: 2 humps of a Camel - ......Academy
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:22 am
by Stokesy44
digger303 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:00 am
Thanks guys your too kind.
Fair enough. If I'm honest, personally I thought it was rubbish.
Only joking, its a great result and some real wins against the odds