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"Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:17 pm
by rwsmith14
Using the Zvezda T 26 and Trumpeters WWII soviet assault Red Army w/Winter gear kit. I will be building a diorama of the Winter War 1939-1940.

Initial thought and Plans call for the T-26 entering a forest occupied by Finnish soldiers. I will use the Trumpeter figures to simulate the finnish troops.Some minor mods will be required for the transformation of the figures. All on a Snow covered base. (my first attempt to simulate snow )I might add a burnt out or disabled Soviet BA-10 armored car, as well

thanks to conradschmid99 for getting me interested on the subject of the Winter War and the continuation war through his thread here: http://www.intscalemodeller.com/viewtop ... 29&t=11209

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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:59 pm
by gustavlekstal
Good luck buddy! To bad it's so hard to find Finnish soldiers! Im a bit of a winter war and early Russians panzers fan. Gonna follow this one closely. Good luck again!

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:03 pm
by rwsmith14
T-26 is just about complete as far as the building process. Fairly Basic kit. Fit is not too bad. Biggest complaint is the parts are thick and soft. The attachment points to the sprues are thick requiring lots of clean up. some filling and sanding required. Presently as it sits. more filling and cleanup is required. all n all the kit is okay, tracks do not look too bad for what they are. if this was going to be a stand alone display and not part of a diorama I would go with the HobbyBoss Kit. took about 2 hrs of working slow to get to this point.
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:05 pm
by Russ72
Look forward to this one mate. Saw a good film a few years ago, Talvisota - The Winter War, very cool.

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:37 pm
by rwsmith14
Tracks are complete and installed. Tracks went on without any issues, next up is prime then paint tracks.Then install fenders.

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installed a piece of screening on the air intake.
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:39 am
by UKguyInUSA
This sounds like an interesting Dio coming up, will keep my eyes peeled for this one! Good luck mate :) :thumb1:

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:34 am
by Coen
Nice clean work dude!
Cool looking kit.

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:59 pm
by Panzerwolf
Very interesting subject!
Also I really do like Soviet pre-war to early war vehicles, epsecially the T-26.
Definitely looking forward to more!

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:33 pm
by rwsmith14
gustavlekstal wrote:Good luck buddy! To bad it's so hard to find Finnish soldiers! Im a bit of a winter war and early Russians panzers fan. Gonna follow this one closely. Good luck again!
Russ72 wrote:Look forward to this one mate. Saw a good film a few years ago, Talvisota - The Winter War, very cool.
Coen wrote:Nice clean work dude!
Cool looking kit.
Panzerwolf wrote:Very interesting subject!
Also I really do like Soviet pre-war to early war vehicles, epsecially the T-26.
Definitely looking forward to more!
UKguyInUSA wrote:This sounds like an interesting Dio coming up, will keep my eyes peeled for this one! Good luck mate :) :thumb1:

THanks for all the comments guys It is much appreciated. Thank you for taking an interest in this project :cheers2:

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:53 pm
by rwsmith14
Some more progress:
T-26 primed in black using Vallejo Black primer
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Going to use Ammo By MIG's Soviet Camouflages. I'm using 3B AU Basic protector Alkidno-Urelanvaya, as the base color. Using this based the description on the MIG box: 3B AU: Dark Green used as primer.corrosion protector and camouflage until 1942. This was the standard color used between 1935-1939
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3B AU applied.
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ready for white wash winter camo.. should be interesting as this is the first time I'm attempting this. Will be using MIG's washable White Camo & MIG's Cremeweiss for a variation in the hues of white plus chipping fluid.

Will probably start the BA-20 while in between paint coats.
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Ordered some more figures from Evolution of Soviet soldiers Winter War. They look good and dressed in exactly what my researched revealed for soviet infantry during the Winter War.
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:42 am
by rwsmith14
First step of the winter white wash is complete, very satisfied with it at this stage. still want to add more white wash detail to the wheels and suspension and a few areas of the upper hull. The Washable White from MIG works good. I used the chipping fluid in conjunction with the Cremeweiss paint. the combination of the chipping fluid and washable white did not work out too well. whats pretty neat about the washable paint is that it is still "washable" until there is a varnish applied..

Next up.. work the wheel and suspension with more white wash. then on to the tools, detail and repaint the the tracks. gloss coat, decals, gloss coat again then weathering.
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:24 am
by KalebBeard
Can't wait to see this thing all buttoned up and done Mate!

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:24 am
by burnie43
Really nice subject, great job
Thanks for sharing
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:40 pm
by rwsmith14
the few tools in the kit are installed. Suspension and wheel assemblies are detailed painted then oversprayed with whitewash. Still need to do more with the tracks. I want to give them a rustier look.

Decided not to build/include the BA-10. in the dio. Putting the final thoughts and plans for the diorama layout. I will update that in the next update along with the figures. The Evolution figures are wonderful !!!! some of the best figures I have seen. more on those next update.

Gloss coat then decals next.. followed by weathering

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Exhaust
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Exhaust just placed not permanently installed.
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:50 am
by OliveDrab
Very cool to see some of these lesser known subjects RW. Great job with them :cheers2:

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:01 am
by Coen
Yup! Rare equals cool!
Nice work RW!!
The exhaust looks cool

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:11 pm
by hansolo
Looking very good so far! Great winter wash.
Looking forward to more.

Cheers

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:03 pm
by rwsmith14
hansolo wrote:Looking very good so far! Great winter wash.
Looking forward to more.

Cheers
Coen wrote:Yup! Rare equals cool!
Nice work RW!!
The exhaust looks cool
OliveDrab wrote:Very cool to see some of these lesser known subjects RW. Great job with them :cheers2:
Thanks, Guys

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:17 am
by rwsmith14
Decals applied. I'm happy there wasn't any more decals to apply. It was a pain to get them to sit down. I applied many many coats of micro sol to them. It wasn't a surprise, the youtube review of the Zveda T-26 mentioned the decals were horrible.

Washes applied. Use Ammo by MIG's DAK wash along with Winter streaking grime and Vallejo Rust streaking wash. Next up a flat coat and pigments. I plan on defining the rust a little bit more with pigments

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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:43 am
by Coen
Ow Dude!!! That's freaking nice bud!!!!
Wow!!!

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:21 pm
by rwsmith14
Coen wrote:Ow Dude!!! That's freaking nice bud!!!!
Wow!!!
THanks Micheal !

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:29 pm
by wappynutter
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Awesome stuff mate....
Love the exhaust, the winter white wash, the rust effects and grime..... well everything really... :thumb1:
Keep up the good work..... Well done again.. :thumb1:
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:51 pm
by rwsmith14
T-26 is complete. all that is left to do is apply some textured snow and insert it into the dio.
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here are a few mock up shots of the diorama. skewers and toothpicks are possible tree locations. started out with a piece of Foam board. Love this stuff.. you can shape it,, apply some terrain features using heat(lighter) the heat will melt the foam causing to it recede. (great for making seascapes) Foam was cut to fit inside the fame then primed with white.
Used and shaped foam pieces to form a defensive burm,Trench/Fox Hole. still debating this idea. thinking about "Digging" the trench into the foam base.
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The Trumpeter figure running toward the T-26 is a going to be a Finnish soldier attempting to throw a molotov cocktail into the engine intake,.
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The Evolution figures are fantastic. thier permanent locations is still to be determined.
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Comments and recommendations for improvement are appreciated.

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:27 am
by Donkeywalloper
Your doing a ace job mate.
Really cracking idea and the models are gonna look awesome when complete.
Brilliant job.
John

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 7:49 am
by rwsmith14
Donkeywalloper wrote:Your doing a ace job mate.
Really cracking idea and the models are gonna look awesome when complete.
Brilliant job.
John
Thanks John

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:46 pm
by localjedi
Awesome weathering of the tank. Truly impressing. Now I'm looking forward to the dio coming together... :)

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:11 pm
by UKguyInUSA
Cracking job on the weathering of the tank...looking forward to see what you do with the dio and figures now! :) :thumb1: :thumb1: :clap:

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:26 pm
by rwsmith14
localjedi wrote:Awesome weathering of the tank. Truly impressing. Now I'm looking forward to the dio coming together... :)
UKguyInUSA wrote:Cracking job on the weathering of the tank...looking forward to see what you do with the dio and figures now! :) :thumb1: :thumb1: :clap:
wappynutter wrote::clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Awesome stuff mate....
Love the exhaust, the winter white wash, the rust effects and grime..... well everything really... :thumb1:
Keep up the good work..... Well done again.. :thumb1:
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Thanks Guys.. next up is painting the figures. that is something i'm still learning to do

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:00 am
by rwsmith14
Now that the T-26 is complete focus has shifted to the dio base and Figures,

Figures primed with Vallejo Black primer.
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First coat of Flex Coat for the snow base is applied, when it drys it can be sanded , won't need to do that on this project.
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second and final coat of Flex coat is applied. sculpted some small snow drifts. when dry the base will be cover with Powered snow, Applied Flex coat to the spruces trees.

I went ahead and Dug the trench into the foam base vice installing extra foam on top of the base and and making the Trench into those pieces.
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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:53 am
by rwsmith14
Did some work on the base.. added some snow drifts. Started painting the figures. still have a ways to go on both figures and base. still want to add some depth to the foxhole/Trench... will add some earth colors and mud to it, to give some depth and definition. still not happy with the hues of the colors on the Soviet figures. I will play around with the colors until I'm satisfied

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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 4:23 am
by Coen
Awesome work!! I was loving those trees with all the snow around them, then you added the tank. Excellent!!!
How are you going to do the tank track marks in the snow?

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:26 pm
by rwsmith14
Mike, the tank tracks will be made, in the powdered snowflake snow still yet to be applied. The snow made with the flex paste is the snow base as seen presently. As it sits now nothing is permanently mounted except the trees. Speaking of tracks, when a tanks turns or pivots in the snow what would the track marks look like? Say it turns to the right, would the track marks be fanned or smeared out to the left ? When I get to that point and ready to make the track marks and before I make them permanent, I want to get your opinion on them. Thanks

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:58 pm
by Coen
If the tank is travelling in a straight line they would leave a mark similar to a wheeled vehicle, but when tracked vehicles turn at high speed they leave a large wide rent in the surface. The softer the surface the larger the mark. When turning in place they completely till the soil. One side can stay still while the other moves or both can move in opposite directions making a real mess.
In snow a tracked vehicle making a slow turn would create a fairly wide mark.

Here are some photos of different vehicles leaving track marks.

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Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:52 pm
by rwsmith14
Great pics Mike ! Thanks !

Re: Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:16 pm
by rwsmith14
Got a little bit done this week not too much.

Painted the Trench base with Tamiya Flat earth. Plan to play around with Drybrushing to add detail and use pigments and washes. Maybe add some air dry clay and do some sculpting to add more detail. In the end definetly going to have some ice, snow and slush down there too

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Changed the hue to Yellow Ochre on the Soviet figures. like it better. a little bright right now but, I think when painting is complete, drybrushed and washed it will tone done to where I want it. Pictures reveal a whole lot more painting work on the figures. Figure painting is not my favorite thing to do :crazy: . but not in a rush .. going to take my time and do it right.
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Re: T-26 Winter War 1940 Diorama

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:02 am
by rwsmith14
Been working on this here and there, figures just about done,, still some things to do on the Finnish figures. Put down first layer of Snowflake snow. Will continue to buildup layers of snow to give it s sense of depth Figures and T-26 are not yet permanent.

Just some poor impromptu pics

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Re: "Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 3:05 am
by Coen
That's some very cool stuff bud!
It's really looking the part now. :th:

Re: "Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 12:03 am
by Bissyboat
Great stuff! Love the set. :thumb2:

Re: "Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 4:32 am
by OliveDrab
That's some really nice looking snow effects :th:

Re: "Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 6:47 pm
by rwsmith14
Coen wrote:That's some very cool stuff bud!
It's really looking the part now. :th:
Bissyboat wrote:Great stuff! Love the set. :thumb2:
OliveDrab wrote:That's some really nice looking snow effects :th:
Thanks guys !! just about finished.. just have to add the accessories to the Finnish soldiers(Trumpeter) and then add a wash to all the figures. Add another layer of snowflake snow and she should be complete.

Re: "Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:33 pm
by Bissyboat
Will you be fitting some of the finnish soldiers with German helmets?

Re: "Talvisota" Winter War 1939/40 Diorama

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:41 pm
by rwsmith14
Bissyboat wrote:Will you be fitting some of the finnish soldiers with German helmets?

Yes !!! 2 of the 4 will be wearing them. I had to steal them from the 1/35 Tamiya Panzer II kit.