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Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:40 am
by michald
Well... First public build, first group build, first time using resins and my 6th model :) I spent a lot of time on this forum and now it's time to some practice and hopefully receive some constructive critic ;)

Based on group build rules and limitations of my stash there was simple question: mig-21 or mig-29. So let's start with Mig-21 from Czechoslovakia and we'll see...

Model is Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM
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I'm going to build this marking:
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Quite a lot of sprues and parts:
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And finally BigSin for this kit:
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I'll try to move fast, but I think, my work will stop me from time to time :)

So let's start building. I'm really excited to see if I learned something from you guys :)

PS: I'm sorry for photo quality, I have to practice steady hand shooting...

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:18 pm
by Avgas
Got a front seat for this one, I have it in the stash.

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:02 pm
by chief5437
Nice! :th: looking forward to seeing this one. I've got the MF version in the stash. Good luck with it :th: :th:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:58 pm
by michald
First new experience: working with resins is much easier on the pictures than in reality.... Anyway after some hours some painting in cockpit is done, now PE time....

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Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:02 pm
by Jack
Looks like a great kit, good luck mate.

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:14 pm
by TommyKillander
Great start, that cockpit looks fantastic!

The kit with all that extra stuff will we awesome when it's ready, good luck !

Cheers
:cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:17 pm
by martin57
Well done, very impressive so far :th:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:52 pm
by michald
Thanks a lot, but by checking other builds I have a feeling I'm cheating with resins... :D

With all your positive comments, it looks like I will finally finish my first model...

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:44 pm
by michald
Well... Dry attach of instrument panel uncovers disaster... Slightly different color tones on PE and my interior color on photos... Yesterday I was sure they are the same, but... :( Any idea how to fix it without destroying everything? Or it's better to keep it as it is and just live with it?

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Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:37 pm
by Avgas
No leave it as it is! There's a lot of excellent work there, don't go chopping it just because it's the wrong colour. It's not that far off anyway and once it's buttoned up no one will notice. Just tell everyone it was a factory one off... :thumb1:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:21 am
by MarkVerploeg
Very nice work so far
I have this kit in my stash .....somewhere
It looks like a very nice kit to build
I would just keep it like that and wouldn't bother to repaint everything
The canopy of the Mig is not so big so you will have a hard time looking for the difference in color
But may i ask wich paints did you use because to me the overall cockpit color looks like mr hobby aqueous ,emerald sorry i don't know the number but i have seen a mix of mr hobby colors
They suggest to mix H25 and H46 i believe they are but the names are sky and emerald and in a 50/50 mix they are almost identical to the color of the Eduard pe set
Good luck with the rest of the build

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:21 am
by michald
Thanks for advises! I really appreciate it.
So I'll leave it as it is. Difference is almost invisible on daylight and maybe I'll fix it little bit with some oils....
I have also versions R, MF, PF and another PFM, all as overtrees with PE so next time I'll try mix as MarkVerploeg suggests. Thanks a lot for this ;)

For this build I used Akan color on dark base. Test looks fine, but I think I over-sprayed base color with Akan so it's lighter than it should be.

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Thanks again for you help!

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:50 am
by TommyKillander
Avgas wrote:No leave it as it is! There's a lot of excellent work there, don't go chopping it just because it's the wrong colour. It's not that far off anyway and once it's buttoned up no one will notice. Just tell everyone it was a factory one off... :thumb1:
I agree completely. It looks worse than it is under the workbench light, but it will hardly be noticable inside the fuselage.

You might consider to put some light weathering on to reduce the contrast a bit, but don't overdo it. Start with the seams between the two parts where the colour difference is most obvious.

Just an advice...

:cheers2:
/Tommy

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:56 am
by michald
Thanks Tommy, any advice is very welcome :)

I'll try it. Learning by doing and hopefully without crying at the end :D

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:17 pm
by gaz45
very nice detailing mate

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:26 pm
by planemaker
Nice work on the cockpit, mate. :th: :th:
michald wrote:Well... Dry attach of instrument panel uncovers disaster... Slightly different color tones on PE and my interior color on photos... Yesterday I was sure they are the same, but... :( Any idea how to fix it without destroying everything? Or it's better to keep it as it is and just live with it?
Does not the the resin aftermarket set provide a resin instrument panel too? If so you could use that instead of fixing the colour of the PE.
Would look more realistic too. :thumb2:

Myself have dealt with the same issues too. That's why I don't really like pre-painted photoetch.
In my FAF Saab Draken build I just used a brush to paint over the pre-painted PE to get the right
colour. IMO it was easier then I thought.

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:29 pm
by michald
planemaker wrote: Does not the the resin aftermarket set provide a resin instrument panel too? If so you could use that instead of fixing the colour of the PE.
Would look more realistic too. :thumb2:
yes, you're right. I totally forgot it immediately when I saw PE ;) I painted instrument panel cover with correct color and all the stuff, but now I have problem how to remove top PE part from instrument panel without destroying underlying PE witch all the controls backgrounds... Tried to use scalpel, but no success... Please, do you have any idea?

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:01 am
by michald
So I tried some cocpit weathering, but I have a feeling that it's too much :( What's your opinion?

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Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:03 am
by Filmman586
Looks great in my opinion! :thumb2:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:04 am
by planemaker
michald wrote: yes, you're right. I totally forgot it immediately when I saw PE ;) I painted instrument panel cover with correct color and all the stuff, but now I have problem how to remove top PE part from instrument panel without destroying underlying PE witch all the controls backgrounds... Tried to use scalpel, but no success... Please, do you have any idea?
I don't think you can save the pre-painted photoetch istruments, but it would look even better if you would use the decal instruments behind the resin panel to replace the PE. Just forget the PE instruments, and just cut out the underlying PE instrument part and slide the decals on top of it
and then after you painted the resin panel you just glue the PE part with the decal instruments behind the resin part. If the resin part has not got
any holes for the instruments, then just drill them out.

Just as a tip you could use Microscale Kristal Klear or just regular PVA glue for the instruments to get a 'glass effect' and make them look more realistic.

Hope it helps. :cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:24 pm
by michald
Thanks for tip. I found it, drill it, paint it and now I'm almost crying how bad I am.... I think I have to practice it :) Now I have to find out way how to remove paint and start from beginning.

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:39 pm
by planemaker
No, don't remove anything, the cockpit is looking superb!
If you mean the PE instruments, just slide the decal on top of the PE part where the dials are, the decal instruments will cover the holes.
And make sure to line up that resin panel with the dials and you'll be golden. :thumb2:
It's a simple trick, but hard to explain with words. I know you'll figure it out.

Take care.
Rgs. Sebastian

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:51 pm
by michald
I mean remove paint from resin instrument panel :) It really looks terrible. I will keep trying to paint instrument panel until I will be happy with it, or I until I lost patient :D

I also slightly adjust cockpit weathering, I was not happy with it. Hope it's now better. If not, it's easy to go back with it :)

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Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:16 pm
by TommyKillander
The cockpit tub and back panel looks perfect, great job! :thumb2:

Cheers
:cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:25 pm
by michald
thanks a lot ;)

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:16 am
by wally
Wow fantastic work on the cockpit. Nice detail and weathering to :jd:
Looking forward to see next step of your build michal.

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:47 am
by qeialto
fantastic weathering, I'll follow your thread with lots of attention!
Cheers mate, :cheers2:
Antonio

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:50 pm
by michald
Thanks a lot ;-)

I wanted to post small update but instead I'm reporting disaster... Resin instrument panel spent last 30 hours in thinner (original idea was to remove ugly paint job) and now I have new experience: it's some kind of chewing gum after all the time in thinner. Well... Looks like I have to leave with small color diff in cockpit :(

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:29 pm
by michald
Business trip is over and some work is done on Mig as well. Model is going together nicely. So far no putty. I just sprayed black surfacer to see what I screw up.

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Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:31 am
by vdbo76
Great detail work and amazing painting skills :th:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:35 am
by Willem
An absolutely beautiful build so far. Keep it coming.

:cheers2:

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:35 am
by michald
Project is over :) After my nephew visit, MIG turned back to a lot of plastic pieces of different sizes and shapes... But to see young man facial expression when he tried if it can fly is priceless ;-) Now I got Mig-29 from GWH, so let's focus on it. Thanks for all you comments!

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:55 am
by Goose
Oooh too bad. A new project on track so all in all everything s good

enjoy ghis new build

Goose

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:00 pm
by TommyKillander
Oh, no!

Hopefully your nephew will keep up his curiosity about flying stuff and put it to use when he is older... A future pilot maybe ;)

Good luck with the MiG 29!

:cheers2:
Tommy

Re: Eduard 1/48 MiG-21PFM Czechoslovakia

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:36 pm
by michald
thanks a lot!

right now it looks like he will be garbage man ;) he likes to destroy things and then use his new garbage car :)