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Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:44 pm
by mincemeat
Hey Guys,
I won't run thru the construction bit it's nothing special. This is my first go at a tank and first for color modulation. I used the Mig Ammo Dunkelgelb color modulation set.
Badger primer first off.
Primed and first coat by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Stuff goes on easy peasy.
Primed and first coat by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I'll admit I'm intimidated by all the wheels.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dunkelgelb Dark Base. I left the shadow areas a bit darker, i.e. let the primer show thru a bit.
Primed and first coat by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Primed and first coat by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
So many wheels.
Primed and first coat by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dunkelgelb Base.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Wheels.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dunkelgelb Light Base.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
The cat got up and knocked the Stug off the table when I wasn't home. The fall broke the front part of the left rail, I decided to mark it up to "field damage" and weathering.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I used the last color, Dunkelgelb Highlight to pick out the nuts, bolts and things.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
More to come! Thanks for looking.
These pictures too big?
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:50 pm
by InitialProduction1
Really nice build mincemeat, your painting of it is awesome. Looking forward to your next update.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:39 am
by mincemeat
InitialProduction1 wrote:Really nice build mincemeat, your painting of it is awesome. Looking forward to your next update.
Thanks for commenting! I'll get to posting the tools and decals soon, then it can all go wrong with weathering!
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:24 pm
by SimonV
That's looking really good. I'm not sure that I'm personally a big fan of modulation, but I can definitely appreciate the skill mvolved and you've done a great job!
I note that you've primed the tracks that hang behind the bar on the front. I'm not sure if it's because I've built it wrong, but you may find those spare tracks don't actually fit in there - it looks like they needed to be added before the bar is fixed in place.
I'm looking forward to watching what you do with the rest of this.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:33 am
by mincemeat
SimonV wrote:That's looking really good. I'm not sure that I'm personally a big fan of modulation, but I can definitely appreciate the skill mvolved and you've done a great job!
I note that you've primed the tracks that hang behind the bar on the front. I'm not sure if it's because I've built it wrong, but you may find those spare tracks don't actually fit in there - it looks like they needed to be added before the bar is fixed in place.
I'm looking forward to watching what you do with the rest of this.
Thanks for commenting Simon. I'm aware of the controversy surrounding modulation. This is my first go at a tank and first attempt at modulation. The concept interested me based on the premise that we do all these things to make a model more visually "interesting". That's why I went with modulation. I bought a color set because I suck at mixing colors due to the fact I don't know what the hell I'm doing as far as what the colors were in real life and what I need to mix to get them there. It eliminates that part of the equation. As far as technique, maybe it's because I'm ham handed that it looks all modulationy?
I suspect the modulation will tone down during weathering, which again I don't really know what I'm doing. I'll be using Coen's guides to lead the way. As a side note, I think the paint job has a greenish tint in real life. I think I want to try this again but on a gray primer base.
Regarding the spare tracks up front, I'm going to venture to say that you may have miscalculated in your build. I just tested it out and with some gentle encouragement and slight wiggling, they go right into place. Did you just glue the smaller spare track to the hood? I can't believe there's no holder brackets. I may leave those off.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:01 pm
by SimonV
I didn't mean to stir up the modulation debate again!

As you say, they're our models, we can build them how we like (colour it in with felt tip if you like!). I certainly respect modulation as a painting technique and my airbrush skills certainly wouldn't let me even attempt it at this stage, so kudos for doing a good job with it. It doesn't look "ham handed" at all.
I'm with you on mixing colours, too - my fear is always running out part way through a job and not being able to match it again.
As for the spare tracks, I'm not at all surprised that I'm the one who's gotten this wrong. As you can see, they're not even close to fitting on mine:
It looks like I've maybe fitted the bar below the bracket, rather than on it in some fashion. Oh well. We live and learn!
I've not fixed the tracks to the top either, as I agree it's odd without something to hold them in place.
Sorry if any offence caused - such is the nature of text without body langauge!
Looking forward to seeing the next stage.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:26 am
by mincemeat
No offense taken Simon!
Time to deal with all the wheels.
I picked up the Olfa circle cutting compass for $11 at Amazon. Worked pretty well, although it doesn't cut circles small enough for 1/48 Spitfire wheels.
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Modulation by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Ammo's Rubber sprayed on.
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
My best AFV wheels yet!
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Chipping with Vallejo German Black Brown
Chipping by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Chipping by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Chipping by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Got a little carried away with trying to fix a very "not random" chipping by applying more chipping. "Just a little more fixing......crap."
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Re-sprayed
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Re-chipped
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Detail time!
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I used the Ammo by Mig Tool set to paint the tools.
Track rust pigment. Just worked it in and applied Ammo's pigment fixer.
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I hate rubber band tracks, but it is what I've got. I just rubbed in some Track Rust. I think it may be too red for in action tracks. I'll see what I can do about it at some point.
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Weekend bonanza stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Decal and gloss time! Yay there's only 3!
Decals by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Decals by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Thanks for looking.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:03 am
by OliveDrab
Superb Stug, the painting and finishing is looking spectacular! Thanks for posting the circle cutter too, I'll be ordering one on those soon.

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:58 pm
by spock1701
In regards to the circle cutter/wheels thing, I find that one of the best ways to paint wheels is to prime them in black and then paint only the center non rubber part while it is surrounded by one of those green plastic sheets with different size holes in it. Just adding my two cents.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:58 pm
by privatepete
A brilliant build, hat's off to you, I just got one of those circle cutter's

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Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:37 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Nice demonstration of techniques and skills
Good stuff

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:47 am
by d6mst0
Really love your work on this model. First rate!
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:45 am
by mincemeat
OliveDrab wrote:Superb Stug, the painting and finishing is looking spectacular! Thanks for posting the circle cutter too, I'll be ordering one on those soon.

privatepete wrote:A brilliant build, hat's off to you, I just got one of those circle cutter's

.
Thanks guys! The circle cutter was cheap enough for me to say "what the heck, I'll give it a shot." I think I'll be using it for trying my hand at RAF Roundels and the Star insignia for my Corsair. Did you also know you could get Tamiya tape in sheets?
http://www.amazon.com/Masking-Sticker-S ... ge_o03_s00
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:49 am
by mincemeat
Twokidsnosleep wrote:Nice demonstration of techniques and skills
Good stuff

d6mst0 wrote:Really love your work on this model. First rate!
Thanks a lot for your comments! I will definitely be trying this again, but as I've been thinking about it, if one does color modulation, I would do it on a gray primer base next time. I think the black has too much impact on the modulation. If you're using 1-2 colors for the model, then I think a black primer is the way to go.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:51 pm
by demarcation
Beautiful Stug mate, looks superb!

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:31 am
by psydeviant
sweeet this is looking great

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:48 pm
by Coen
That's looking the bee's knees bud.
I like the paint fading and the chipping.
I'm not much of a fan of tamiya's rubber bands either, but it looks as though you've kicked them into shape.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:04 pm
by mincemeat
psydeviant wrote:sweeet this is looking great

Coen wrote:That's looking the bee's knees bud.
I like the paint fading and the chipping.
I'm not much of a fan of tamiya's rubber bands either, but it looks as though you've kicked them into shape.
demarcation wrote:Beautiful Stug mate, looks superb!

Thanks a lot fellas! The final installment is here! Brace yourselves!
All glossed and ready for weathering.
Decals by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Decals by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Used Ultimate Dark Dirt. Dribbled right down the neck and the side. Got more on the table than the cup! I kept from wiping it up and used it straight from the table. Some dents in the table weathered nicely.
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I'll admit, this is my first piece of armor (I don't think the Hanomag counts), so weathering is quite daunting and it may not turn out that great. You have to start somewhere though!
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
A couple of lives and several Q-tips later.
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dark dirt wash stug by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dull coat and on to the filter. I put it on WAYYYYY TOOO THICK. It took some cleaning up. I don't know if you'll even see a difference.
Brown filter by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Brown filter by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Brown filter by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I realized I missed the part that hold the spare road wheels in the "spares bin". There's always something, isn't there? Andddddd.....I broke it...
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Stretched sprue to the rescue!
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
I thought my tracks were too red with the rust pigment. So I gave them a coat of dark tracks.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Worked in some pigment, I tried not to be uniform.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Gave Mig's Gun Metal pigment a go. Makes your finger nice and shiny!
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
A bit on the sprockets.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
And on the idler wheels.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
The track are much easier to put on when the sprockets are removed.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
It looks like a tank now! See something missing? I broke the jack off and had to glue it back on.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Other side....And I broke one of the hooks. Some real meat hooks I got.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
With my Milliput tarp. Or scaled up, my Milliput blanket. Next time I'll try thinned PVA and facial tissue.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
See the spare track fits right in! I just didn't push it down and didn't notice until after.
Final details wheels and tracks by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Time to try a go at dried mud. Here's the stuff. Another first.
Dried mud by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Splattered with the airbrush and cleaned up a bit. I think I'll try a thinner mixture next time.
Dried mud by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dried mud by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dried mud by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Dried mud by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Final Pictures. I need to get that cheap light booth built! Maybe there's too much white? Antennas are stretched sprue and black primer.
0424161313 by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
0424161313b by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
0424161314 by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
0424161314a by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
0424161315a by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
0424161315b by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
0424161315 by
Iggy Pants, on Flickr
Thanks for looking and commenting!
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:08 am
by Madmattmodels89
Superb work buddy really nice technique for painting!
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 7:48 am
by OneSmallStep1966
You done a great job detailing the build in this thread and ended up with a great looking Stug too. Well done

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 11:32 am
by InitialProduction1
Great build all the way around Mincemeat, amazing weathering work.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 2:27 pm
by Plukenstein
Stunning great work I learned a lot looking at your work!!
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:34 pm
by demarcation
Awesome looking Stug!!!

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:43 pm
by NorthernModeller
Looking great

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:57 pm
by mincemeat
Thanks a lot for commenting everyone and the kind words! At the end of every build I do a quick lessons learned because I'm always trying new things, and some things don't work out as well as others. Here it is.
- I think I officially like armor model building.
I don't look forward to the weathering stage though.
I will try color modulation on armor again, as I think I quite like the effect. However, I will be using a gray primer base instead. I think the modulation effect is there to build shadows and light with the color palette. Using a black base makes it too dark to start. If you are using 1 or 2 colors then the black base will assist with the shadows.
I'll probably glue the tools to the hull before painting again. It worked out just fine.
Filters are meant to be put on in VERY thin layers.
I'm still not completely sold on clay based washes.
It takes several coats of Alclad Aqua Gloss to get a nice smooth coat.
Rubber band tracks aren't too bad. Just spray with Dark Tracks paint, apply pigments, pigment fixer and call it a day. Don't fuss about too much.
It's easier to put tracks on when they are glued together and you take the drive sprockets off.
Stretched sprue makes great antennas.
If you scale up the tarp I made, it would probably be a thick blanket. Next time I'll be trying a thinned PVA glue and facial tissue.
Melted sprue takes a REALLY long time to cure, at least a week. I don't think I'll be using this method for hole filling in the future. I'll be using Milliput more. It's a bit of a pain to prepare, but it doesn't shrink and can be cleaned up with water before it sets.
I really need to get some good lights and a build that light booth for completion pictures.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:52 pm
by SimonV
This turned out really great!
Despite my earlier comments I think the modulation looks pretty good under the weathering. It really blends it down a lot and makes it much less stark whilst still giving the intended effect. The rest of the weathering is fantastic too.
Glad to see your spare tracks fit - think I've just placed the bracket in the wrong place on mine.
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 9:42 pm
by mincemeat
SimonV wrote:This turned out really great!
Despite my earlier comments I think the modulation looks pretty good under the weathering. It really blends it down a lot and makes it much less stark whilst still giving the intended effect. The rest of the weathering is fantastic too.
Glad to see your spare tracks fit - think I've just placed the bracket in the wrong place on mine.
Thanks Simon! I do think I like the effect as well. When will we see an update to your Stug?
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:04 pm
by Bissyboat
That Stug looks the business.

Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:32 am
by mincemeat
Bissyboat wrote:That Stug looks the business.

Thanks for looking and commenting Bissy!
Re: Tamiya Stug IV by Mincemeat
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:50 am
by Bissyboat
My pleasure mate.
