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I am trying to find reference material for the camoflauge or paint colors used on the 250/1 alte used in Italy in the 1943 - 1944 time frame. The color call out for the one in the Dragon 1/35 kit is brown color. Can anybody give me the name of a book or publisher or a trusted reference source?
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pir8hntr

pir8hntr wrote:I am trying to find reference material for the camoflauge or paint colors used on the 250/1 alte used in Italy in the 1943 - 1944 time frame. The color call out for the one in the Dragon 1/35 kit is brown color. Can anybody give me the name of a book or publisher or a trusted reference source?
Yours
pir8hntr

I don't have an answer I'm afraid but if you put this question in the modelling chat section you might get more responses.

Stokesy44 wrote:

pir8hntr wrote:I am trying to find reference material for the camoflauge or paint colors used on the 250/1 alte used in Italy in the 1943 - 1944 time frame. The color call out for the one in the Dragon 1/35 kit is brown color. Can anybody give me the name of a book or publisher or a trusted reference source?
Yours
pir8hntr

I don't have an answer I'm afraid but if you put this question in the modelling chat section you might get more responses.

Like Stokesy44 I also don't have a direct answer to the question but was to gusset the same thing questions of any kind are better posted in the modeling chat section as it gets the most trafić on the forum. A couple of three bumpers also puts it in the new treads quick search function ..

As always happy modeling and keep sticking styrene.

Paul

pir8hntr wrote:I am trying to find reference material for the camoflauge or paint colors used on the 250/1 alte used in Italy in the 1943 - 1944 time frame. The color call out for the one in the Dragon 1/35 kit is brown color. Can anybody give me the name of a book or publisher or a trusted reference source?
Yours
pir8hntr

A lot of vehicles in Italy were simply painted in sand yellow. Besides that they received the normal camouflage with green and dark brown (two color camos as well as three color camos) just like we know it from other theaters of war like the Eastern Front. Many units were shifted back and forth and they did not repaint their vehicles. In Summer 1943 for example a lot of units from the Eastern Front were relocated to Italy due to the Allied landings there. Besides that i can well imagine the use of captured Italian paints to camouflage the vehicles.


Here you can see a Sd.Kfz. 251 alt in Italy 1943. You can clearly see a thin camo pattern which could be applied on the sand yellow base. Could even be a Grey vehicle with camouflage painted on top if it. Who can really tell that? You can get away with many types of camouflage colors and patterns, since there was no exact rule for that.


Not exactly the vehicle type you asked for, but here you can see vehicles with no or very little camouflage painted on. They are just sand yellow. Italy spring 1944


A picture taken in Russia 1942. I just post it here to show how crude the camouflage sometimes looked. Not as neat as we model builders want it to have on our models. In 1942 it was a practice at the eastern front to mix paint (sometimes captured Soviet paint) with dirt and just smear that on. Sounds rather effective to me.


I have no idea where or when this picture was taken, but it looks to me like a sand yellow vehicle with some kind of thin camo pattern, probably green or dark brown. The dust and dirt on the vehicle makes it sometimes hard to see. The contrast between the paints disappear.

I hope this helped. You can not really go wrong with the camo unless you give it a white wash winter camo.

Thank you to everybody who replied to my question. I got my answer and it does make sense. You would also have Afrika Korps that would have been relocated there. So thanks again.
pir8hntr