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Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:07 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:04 pm
by Vleugelmoer
Looks like a decent kit from Revell for a change, hope for you that looks don't deceive and it all comes together properly. Look forward to watching it come to completion.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 9:56 pm
by Stokesy44
Vleugelmoer wrote:Looks like a decent kit from Revell for a change, hope for you that looks don't deceive and it all comes together properly. Look forward to watching it come to completion.

I know what you mean. Its not a maker I tend to look at but the review was very positive and I've read good things about it on the net. Eduard have chucked a load of aftermarket at it so they must think its a good seller. Their Brassin range - resin engine, machine guns and cockpit - the works. I only bought a few bits of after market for it but could easily spent twice I paid for the kit!
But as you say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I'll see how the build goes. Adding to the potential for slip ups is I have never built a 190 before so it could be a perfect storm! I've built loads of aircraft but the butcher bird has never made it on to the bench before.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 10:57 pm
by Vleugelmoer
I have built the rebox of the special hobby P-39 that came out in 2013 and that was a decent enough kit oob. It was lacking the photo etch that was included in the original. So I have that one now on the bench for my long term project of a Pacific P-400 in PNG 1942/3 ish.
what I've seen in the pictures posted so far it is all coming together so far at least. Hope that flow continues

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2016 10:56 pm
by Stokesy44
Had a good crack at the cockpit. Worked through most of the PE and got some paint down.
Upper and lower instrument panels done
Cockpit tub and seat painted. I've scratched the paint off where the PE side panels will go. They're self-adhesive so I want a good surface for them to suck down on.
Sidewalls done showing the nice PE inserts for the internal ribbing
Ultimate dark dirt done and wiped. Dirt on the floor in front of the rudder pedals. Dry brushed with dark aluminium. Seat harness done and weathered. Lower IP panel fitted
Its a nice fit against the fuselage although once its all together I don't know how much will be seen. Still, its all in there, regardless.
Progress has been pretty slow but once the upper instrument panel shroud and gunsight is done, that's the cockpit finished. After that its the tail wheel then I can put the fuselage together. Wings and u/c bays after that then its on to that big lump of an engine.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 2:33 am
by CharleyGnarlyP290
Good looking stuff so far.
I have that kit as well. One of two models I have in my "stash." Wait, I have three kits in my stash.
Anyway, I am almost finished with the Bf109 new tool Revell kit, and I can vouch for the quality of their new kits. Things fit like they are supposed to, and very little cleanup to do.
You have inspired me with this one, Stokesy44. I think I may go gung-ho on some after market. I generally do OOB, but have been wanting to do some extra stuff on a build and this stuff looks good.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:48 am
by Kevthemodeller
I'm going to watch this build, who knows I may get tempted to build an aircraft

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 8:55 am
by mick
good work on the pit

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 9:59 am
by Stokesy44
CharleyGnarlyP290 wrote:Good looking stuff so far.
I have that kit as well. One of two models I have in my "stash." Wait, I have three kits in my stash.
Anyway, I am almost finished with the Bf109 new tool Revell kit, and I can vouch for the quality of their new kits. Things fit like they are supposed to, and very little cleanup to do.
You have inspired me with this one, Stokesy44. I think I may go gung-ho on some after market. I generally do OOB, but have been wanting to do some extra stuff on a build and this stuff looks good.
Thanks mate.
I'm very selective with after market. Its easy to spend way too much with all the choice out there. I try to think, will it really benefit the kit? Clearly it needed a harness and replacing the side and instrument panels was a luxury. The original IP instruments were way over scale in depth and the kit supplied decal would have been a nightmare. The side panels are the real treat and will be nice and visible when the kit is completed. Eduard do complete replacements for the cockpit, gun deck and engine in their Brasin range but we're talking silly money
I'm sure they're amazing but I'm too tight!
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:07 am
by Stokesy44
mick wrote:good work on the pit

Thanks mate
Kevthemodeller wrote:I'm going to watch this build, who knows I may get tempted to build an aircraft

You feel the pull to the light side! I used to only build aircraft but I got into armour when I came back to the hobby a year ago. I like the pace of an armour build, you go all in on construction and then bang you've got this magnificent chunk of plastic begging to be painted. Aircraft are more stop start, paint the cockpit, then stop to put the fuselage together, back to painting with the wheel bays, maybe construction of the engine followed by more painting. Its a real ebb and flow deal. Its nice to mix it up and its a great way of maintaining the enthusiasm levels. It can also be fun to have one of each on the go at once. Get stuck into a tank for a day or so while the primer on the aircraft cures. All that good stuff!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 10:51 am
by Smiffy
That's one good looking pit

and those side panels really do set it all off nicely too.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 3:50 pm
by Stokesy44
Things are moving along now.
Because there's no real front end to the fuselage, the kit basically goes together from the tail forwards. Once the tail wheel strut is on, you are supposed to glue the instrument shroud to one side of the fuselage then put the 2 halves together. The shroud connects to the other side of the fuselage and holds the front together. Once that's done you insert the cockpit tub and start on the wings, forward gun deck and engine mounts. The problem is the instrument shroud is too narrow and doesn't sit down the centre line of the fuselage if you glue it to one side of it.
The solution was to glue the fuselage together at the rear without it then secure the front end by gluing the gun deck and rear gun deck plate on to brace the forward section. That way the fuselage is glued front and rear and the fuselage sides around the cockpit (particularly where the windscreen will sit) are the right distance from each other.
This worked and I then inserted the cockpit tub. The IP shroud I then glued to the rear of the gun deck plate taking care to centre it.
I then went to work on the wings and engine mount. it all sits on a stout panel that forms the rear of the wheel bays with a central piece that holds the ammo containers and the gun mounts. The wheel bays are glued on then its time for the internal frame and engine mount. It looks really flimsy but once the mounting ring is on it locks it and the whole thing is pretty solid.
The fuselage then 'drops' onto the structure and you glue the rear of the structure to the gun deck and the bottom of the fuselage sides to the interior surface of the lower wing. This all sounds fraught with trouble but it does all fit together nicely. The fuselage sides are then glued to the braces on the edges of the engine mount and everything is as it should be.
This is the test fit. Once glued the fuselage sides will be tight to the engine mount.
Painting time. Tamiya cockpit green cut with white 60/40 and varnished with Aqua Gloss prior to washing.
All glued together now
I'll do the detail painting later, washing and drybrushing of the fuselage engine bay and wheel bays.
The wings are a pretty good fit but its here you notice the little imprecisions versus say Tamiya's 1/32 offerings. The plastic fights you a little, not a full on knock down drag out battle like the old days of Revell, more of a petulant shake of the head when you try to line up the seams and get flat to flat joins to sit right. I have no issue with this given the cost of the kit but its important to know what you're working with. Its still a nice fit in the end once you win the little tussle it gives you!
Just a very small amount of filler on both sides and that's purely seam filling. Everything sits right and level - that's the important thing.
Final parts done were the ailerons. And here again, the plastic looks you in the eye a little. Upper and lower pieces need 4 pegs to clamp them together while the glue dries. Those little imprecisions again, the interior surfaces of the 2 pieces are not perfectly flat, hence the need for a little encouragement.
However, once they are together they go into the wings with slide rule precision and they look pucker. Perfect against the wing surfaces both upper and lower.
Ailerons are a bug bear of mine. I'm not into positioning them and I'd much rather they be moulded as part of the wing. But that's just me
Next up, tail stabilisers and elevators. Then its on to that big lump of a radial engine.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 7:51 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Coming along nicely mate

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 8:18 pm
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote:Coming along nicely mate

Thanks Kev
I always like the part of the build where the fuselage comes together on a large scale aircraft kit. it feels like the kit has gone from a box of bits to something that looks like an aircraft on a production line.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 8:29 pm
by Kevthemodeller
It looks a really nice kit and much improved over the Revel kits I remember.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:25 am
by mick
good progress
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:22 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:55 pm
by Stokesy44
Painted the engine over the weekend. Vallejo Metal colours and weathered with oils and chalk pastels.
Its a lovely looking engine and it attaches nicely into the fuselage. Once it was in I put the lower nacelles on as they will be the mounting points for the engine access panels and the ring that sits on the front of the aircraft.
I also weathered the gun deck and rear bulkhead.
The lower nacelles should have gone on before the engine was fitted but hey ho, a little bit of finagling and they went on ok. The ring was a bit of an arse ache bit I got there in the end. I also trimmed down the visible edges on the rear of the ring to a more realistic thickness. It seems only Tamiya have mastered the concept of thin plastic for their engine covers.
Test fitting. The panels will need to be on for the painting. Everything lines up and while its only a loose fit at this stage, they do sit down nicely with a bit of 'encouragement'. I still haven't decided how I'm going to display the engine, most likely the upper side panels will be open but everything else will be closed up.
With luck and a fair wind I might get onto painting tomorrow. A man can dream anyway....
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:13 pm
by CharleyGnarlyP290
That engine looks very, very nice. I was going to model my next plane wheels-up, but after seeing the cockpit and engine on yours, I think I have changed my mind...
This is turning out really good.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:00 am
by Kevthemodeller
Love the engine mate really nice

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:16 am
by mick
great work on the motor
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:05 pm
by Stokesy44
mick wrote:great work on the motor
Kevthemodeller wrote:Love the engine mate really nice

CharleyGnarlyP290 wrote:That engine looks very, very nice. I was going to model my next plane wheels-up, but after seeing the cockpit and engine on yours, I think I have changed my mind...
This is turning out really good.
Thanks guys
A quick update. Been working on the engine covers, getting the alignment right and trimming / sanding where necessary. The engine is fractionally too big for the panels to fit snugly so a little fettlin' was needed!
Gun cover and forward upper went on with the help of some CA glue. The ring at the front had to be persuaded (pulled) toward the cockpit where it meets the upper panel. Bit of a PITA but I found once it stuck, the alignment of the whole front end got better.
The lower panel rear ends needed a little trimming and some filler was needed once the panels were on. Nice and snug now.
Washed and dry brushed the wheel bays too
As Inspector Clouseau would say, ere eez ah berme! When I put it together for the life of me I couldn't get the fins to align. Then I realised they are off-set to allow the bomb to spin -
Ready for priming now. I haven't masked the canopy as its not the one I'll be using. Revell supply separate canopies for open or closed, the difference being the open canopy is narrower so it stays in the runners as they taper backwards - weird.
Priming upnext then painting, finally!! Yeah!!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 8:26 pm
by Willem
Stunning paint work on that engine. Great stuff.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:45 am
by demarcation
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:34 am
by Stokesy44
Willem wrote:Stunning paint work on that engine. Great stuff.

Thanks Guys
Finally got into the painting. Primed first.
I'm going for post-shading on this one. I've done the light blue on the underside and fuselage so far and it looks ok. Laid down the main coat then used a slightly darker blue to highlight the panel lines. Then a faint overspray of the base coat to soften it down.
Painted the bits and bobs too. I used the RLM call outs in the instructions but I'm not sure about the bomb and the prop. They look too pale to me.
I'm please with how the tanks came out. They were a proper PITA to work on as the sanding of the joint seams meant all the ribbing detail needed re-scribing. Still, with the post-shading, I think they look OK.
Hopefully get more done today

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:43 pm
by Stokesy44
More painting done now
I did the yellow stripe on the nose first, masked off and sprayed with Vallejo model air yellow from their RLM Luftwaffe set. Once that was done I used white-tac and masking tape for a soft line down the fuselage. Again, Vallejo RLMs. It looked a little dark so I over sprayed with a very thin white, just to lighten it up a fraction. To get the same effect, when I moved on to the wings and tail, I added white on a 5:1 basis to the mixes for both the grey and the green.
I've carried on with the post-shading method and the results are ok, not great but ok. The majority of the lines look good but in a couple of places I showed a lack of restraint. Still, it can be fixed so no problem.
For the wing roots I used white-tac and tape again. The camo lines were freehand.
This was the only casualty with the masking tape, thankfully. Again, easily fixed.
I repainted the bomb and the prop because they were way too light. The new black-green is much better.
So, all in all, she's looking good. Some camo work on the fuselage is next then its time to try the masks for spraying the crosses and unit codes.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:06 pm
by ambientdan
May I add to the appreciation shown for that engine... Just lovely, lovely work
Camo looks most splendid too. Have the vallejo RLM 1941-45 set, interesting to hear they can be a bit on the dark side. Have yet to use them in anger myself, but forewarned is forearmed etc etc
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:15 pm
by demarcation
Fantastic work so far mate!!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:19 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:53 pm
by Stokesy44
A very brief update
Finished off the masks on Friday. The unit codes had white outlines so I laid down the slightly larger masks first and sprayed the white. Once dry I then applied the smaller masks and sprayed the black. I know its not the right way to do it but having not followed the proper process (spraying the white before the camo colour) there was nothing I could do - and I wanted those white outlines.
The result is as good as can be expected and overall I am very happy with my first foray into using the Montex product.
I also tidied up any scratches or lifts to the paintwork. She's ready for glossing now (finally!)

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:39 pm
by shortCummins
nice work with the masks, how easy were they to use?
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:25 pm
by Stokesy44
shortCummins wrote:nice work with the masks, how easy were they to use?
Thanks
The single colour ones were fine. It takes a little while to get the placement right because they are a little floppy and will stick when they come into contact with the kit.
Once they're down they work beautifully. No bleed provided you don't get carried away with the spraying and they peel off nicely when you're finished. I would not like to work with multi-coloured masks because the process looks massively fiddly. RAF fuselage roundels or US stars and bars would be harder work. For Luftwaffe markings they're great.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:31 pm
by Stokesy44
Today was decal day. With the masks done for the insignias and unit codes it was time to aqua gloss the 190 and work through the stencils.
First thing to say is these Revell decals are SUPERB. Minimal carrier film, beautifully printed, thin without getting silly and superbly easy to handle.
The result is I now have a factory fresh FW190!
The only mucking around I did was with the aileron and elevator tab decals. The original transfers were wrap around jobs. Plain red on the underside and red with the stencil on the upper surface. I thought my chances of putting the decal on the trailing edge and wrapping it round so it stuck to the underside was essentially zero so I cut the decal in half. I'll need to touch up the edge with red paint but it was worth it as the decal went down fine and I moved on.
I'm always wary of no step line decals on wings because I am prone to ballsing them up! These, however, were great to work on. They came off the paper nicely and were easy to move with tweezers. I had to add a second splash of Microset (the blue one) a couple of times when I needed to adjust a line after wrongly positioning it but the decals responded beautifully and did what they were told.
Even the prop twirl went on ok - I was astonished
Glossing to seal is next then its weathering time - yeah!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:44 pm
by Willem
Looking great mate. I do like the masked markings.
Fab build and giving me the urge to build something from 'zie Chermans'.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:46 pm
by Stokesy44
Willem wrote:Looking great mate. I do like the masked markings.
Fab build and giving me the urge to build something from 'zie Chermans'.

Cheers mate. You've got to hand it to old Harry Hun, they certainly made stuff look nice with their colour schemes and markings.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:27 am
by Kevthemodeller
It just keeps getting better mate

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:34 pm
by demarcation
Fantastic work mate!! You just gotta love those RLM paint schemes....

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:18 am
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote:It just keeps getting better mate

Thanks Kev. Cheers
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:21 am
by Stokesy44
demarcation wrote:Fantastic work mate!! You just gotta love those RLM paint schemes....

Absolutely. Can't fault them for style. Just look at the RAF. Started the war with green and brown, ended it with green and grey and that's only cos they ran out of brown!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:57 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:52 pm
by Willem
Looking very tasty mate. Can't wait to see the finished article.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:59 pm
by NorthernModeller
Fantastic looking build. think I might have to build one myslef
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:58 am
by Stokesy44
Willem wrote:Looking very tasty mate. Can't wait to see the finished article.

NorthernModeller wrote:Fantastic looking build. think I might have to build one myslef
Thanks Guys. On the basis of the price alone I would recommend the kit. Yes it lacks the detail and the sheer engineering excellence of Tamiya but for a third of the cost you can have a really pleasant time working on the famous Butcher Bird.
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:21 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:06 pm
by AridTalons
Well done sir... well done.

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:14 am
by Kevthemodeller
Awesome build mate

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:49 pm
by Willem
That's a great build mate. Beautiful stuff.
Need more pics!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:23 pm
by Stokesy44
AridTalons wrote:Well done sir... well done.

Kevthemodeller wrote:Awesome build mate

Thanks Guys
Willem wrote:That's a great build mate. Beautiful stuff.
Need more pics!

Thanks Willem. More Pics? I thought I was pushing it posting as many at the end as I did! If I can pull my finger out I'll do some for the gallery.
Got bigger fish to fry though, I still can't make up my mind what to build next. First time in my life that I've ever had a stash and now I can't choose the next project - sod's law

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:59 pm
by demarcation
Fantastic work mate, beautiful finish! Absolutely top notch!!

Re: Revell 1/32 Fw 190 F8 (new tool)
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:53 pm
by Stokesy44
demarcation wrote:Fantastic work mate, beautiful finish! Absolutely top notch!!

Thanks mate. Its now perched nicely on the table and I can see it over the top of my laptop screen. Very happy with the final result.