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SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:01 pm
by spruecutter
Here's the WOT tank that I'll be attempting to replicate:-
And the Tamiya kit:-
The original sprues date from 1969 and were updated in this 2010 version. As well as including a couple of logs I think the texture on the hull and other parts were improved. Unlike some of the other tanks produced by Tamiya in this scale it doesn't have any parts for the interior.
I think it will suit this WOT build very well, if I have enough paint to cover it all!
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:05 pm
by Paul
Nice I've been wanting to do this one for while now, look forward to seeing it come together.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:18 pm
by McLeod
Nice, that's going to be one impressive big beastie when its all done

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:14 pm
by T3hGuppy
Big girl you've got their.

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:28 pm
by Coen
Now that's a big chunk of fudge!
I've built a couple of 1/25s... you're going to need some shelf space for that lovely lady.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:21 am
by Gav0909
Awesome, this should be really nice.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:28 pm
by Tiger131
superb choice love this tank looking forward to seeing how it turns out
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:00 am
by spruecutter
I got most of the assembly done on this last night, below are some progress shots.
Its a very basic kit with only seven steps in the instructions. Most of the parts are large and relatively crude by today's standards. The T34 Dragon kits in this section are far more detailed. But this is a kit from the late sixties and at least the building is fast and easy, and apart from a bit of flash here and there, trouble free.
The suspension arms are added to the hull with springs and are held in place with poly caps:-
The wheels are big - but I still managed to loose one for a while there:-
I forgot to photograph all the sprues before starting the build, here's some that are still intact:-
All the wheels are on:-
The tracks are made from two types of individual links, and are moulded in a relatively hard rubber - just flexible enough to bend together:-
Track completed:-
Tracks on, and a quick test of the suspension:-
The inner faces were sanded to remove the numbers and make them look a little worn in:-
Most of the upper hull parts are on:-
Narrowing out the exhaust tubes:-
I did drill out the track links that go on the front of hull, but the rubber material doesn't drill too well, and the holes closed up:-
That was the easy part.
I've noticed a few differences between the WOT tank and this kit. Worse still the kit itself is different from the box illustration. Most notably with the large horizontal plate that sits above the gun mantlet. It's shown on the box but I couldn't find it anywhere in the kit, or mentioned in the instructions. Also the front mudguards may need to be altered, the kit versions look a bit too short on top. There is also a hatch on the rear of the upper hull that isn't present on the kit. I'll see if I can fabricate or modify these required parts.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:05 am
by McLeod
Nice one, I like the way the suspension and tracks go together, simple yet effective.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:49 am
by Coen
Wow you guys are making awesome progress.
Somewhat challenging builds too.
Very cool stuff.
I hope to get at mine tonight.
I'm envious.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:53 am
by T3hGuppy
Built already!!! damn quick lol.

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:01 am
by spruecutter
The tracks and wheels took a while but the rest was basically two major hull parts with some accessories to add, one evening was enough. It'll take me months to get it painted though.

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:12 am
by Paul
Nice progress

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:01 am
by spruecutter
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:16 am
by Coen
What did you use for primer there Sprue?
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:56 pm
by spruecutter
Coen wrote:What did you use for primer there Sprue?
I used Vallejo Black Primer, with Tamiya thinner X20A
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:31 pm
by Tiger131
looking good buddy
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:03 pm
by schweinhund227
Clean build ! Tamiya hey ? nice to know and keep up the good work !

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:30 pm
by russ2471
I absolutely love the look of this kit mate another one to the wish list

good work fella

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:38 pm
by Tiger131
that colour looks superb none of the detail will be lost
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:30 pm
by spruecutter
I've been searching the web trying to find references for the version of the SU100 featured in the WOT picture, without much success. I've come to the conclusion that it's probably more likely a picture of an SU85M.
Since my last update I've bought a Zvesda 1/35 SU100, and I have the early Dragon SU100 on the way, but I'm frustrated now that neither have all the parts to match, particularly the gun mantlet. The Zvesda kit is terrible by the way.
I still want to finish this 1/25th kit, but I think I'll have to withdraw it from the SIG, as I can't adapt the parts to match the picture. Alternatively, I could do the paint job to match, but the rear hatch, mudguards, mantlet and it's cover, plus other details won't be the same.
I don't want to give up on this one yet, but the SU85M Dragon kit is beyond what I can afford at the moment. I might have to settle for a 1/72 kit for the SIG and have this thread moved to another section.
Your views would be welcome.
Pete
Here's the Dragon kit of the SU85M that looks like the closest match
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:06 pm
by Coen
I just took a quick look at the SU-100 in game Sprue, both the SU-85 and the SU-100 used the same hulls. The differences were with the guns and the commander's cupola.
The SU-100 had the same cupola as the SU--85M but had a 100mm gun barrel.
I looked at both kits, the premium 85M (which I have in my own stash) and the 100 (which I have on my shelf) both kits will work to build up the game SU-100.
The trick will be in making sure you have the right in-game barrel. The game lets you have all sorts of silly barrels.
If you pick the 100mm D10S in game and screen shot that it will look like a real life SU-100 that you can build with the Dragon kits.
I hope that helps in some way Dude.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:11 pm
by T3hGuppy
Id go with Coen on this one sounds like he knows what he's talking about unlike me
And I empathize with your plight of a bad kit.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:02 pm
by spruecutter
Thanks Coen, I was hoping someone might be able to shed some light on things.
The later Dragon kit pictured above, no 6415 has both styles of mantlet. Unfortunately I'd seen a picture of the rear of this box showing both types available (the 2 in 1 kit) and thought it was for kit 6359 - the one I've just bought.
I'm re-assurred now from your comments that I can still use that kit. I see what you mean about the gun differences. But I don't know if it has the mantlet that's different to the WOT tank I selected.
I don't have the WOT game so I can't check either tank. I picked up my picture from the web, and just dived in thinking the Tamiya kit would do. Both mistakes, I've learned now.
I wonder if someone would be kind enough supply me with some in-game pictures of an SU100? I think I'll abandon the one I've chosen and build what I can from the Dragon kit
I'll open this up to any choices as long as it matches the Dragon kit 6359 below
Pics: Dragon kit 6359 above, and the rear box pic of 6415 below:-
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:03 pm
by Tiger131
superb pick love the tank and superb kit to work with.look forward to seeing you get this going
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:20 pm
by Tiger131
ive got that tank and i should have the plastic barrel left in the kit. i will have a look tom and if i have it i can send you it if you like..
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:43 pm
by spruecutter
That's a kind offer Tiger Thank you very much.
Although from the look of this below, kit 6359 has most of what I need, it has the rear hatch, the correct gun and mantlet, but not the rounded mudguards. The winter track wotsits will help, plus tow cables that I didn't have before either.
The gun should be ok though, but thanks again mate
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:30 pm
by Coen
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:55 pm
by spruecutter
Brilliant, thanks for going to the trouble to get these. How could I not do one in honour of LordCoen now?
They are both interesting paint jobs that would pose different challenges. I think I'd like to do the white wash version without the muzzle break. The all round views will be really helpful. Cheers.
Pete
pst! Nobody mention the rounded mudguards
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:30 am
by Coen
I can take shots of some of the other camo schemes if you want to check those out too.
It only takes a few minutes to put together.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:45 am
by spruecutter
You are tempting me, that camo above is starting to appeal to me more now too. I'll leave it to you mate, if you really don't mind, then some garage shots of the camo versions would be great if poss?
Thanks again
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:02 am
by Coen
No problem.
I changed out the barrel for the correct one too.
If you see one that you like let me know and I'll do some all around shots if you want.
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Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:24 am
by spruecutter
I'd like to jump in at the deep end with number 7, but I'll err on the side of caution with number 2 ( am I the cliche kid?)
I like the look of the splinter camo actually but I'd like something more authentic. A Number 2 all round please? Then I've got that and the white wash as a back up if it all goes wrong.
Thanks again, this has really perked up my interest in this build
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:49 am
by McLeod
Hehe number 7 is what I'm going to be attempting on my T34, wish me luck lol

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:27 am
by Coen
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:06 am
by spruecutter
Excellent!, thank you so much Coen. I owe you one mate
I can put that Zvesda kit to good use now as a practice piece
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:09 am
by spruecutter
McLeod wrote:Hehe number 7 is what I'm going to be attempting on my T34, wish me luck lol

brave man! the best of luck with that one, it will look fantastic
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer - Tamiya 1/25
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:43 pm
by Tiger131
looking forward to seeing this tank and camo pattern
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:27 pm
by spruecutter
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:36 pm
by T3hGuppy
You have been busy.
Great progress dude.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:54 am
by Coen
And he's off.... again.
haha. This is a really good kit Sprue, if you can muddle through the instructions it will build up really well.

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:19 pm
by spruecutter
Coen wrote:And he's off.... again.
haha. This is a really good kit Sprue, if you can muddle through the instructions it will build up really well.

It was a bit tricky getting the two hull parts to stay together, but otherwise it's gone well so far.
I've been listening to your vids whilst building this, I think they work really well that way, its like having a friend around, good company.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:30 pm
by Coen
Yeah I've been getting that a lot haha.
It's better than listening to the tick of the refrigerator eh?

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:47 pm
by spruecutter
Few more parts added to the hull.
I was going to leave the Photo Etched parts off this, for a quicker build, plus I haven't used it before and didn't want to get in a mess. Then I thought I'd try the rear grill out because I could use the solid kit part to form the shape. Shaping it was easy but retaining the shape whilst attaching it was a bit of a struggle.
Then I went for it with the fuel drums. First the moulded rings had to put cut off.
Surprisingly these PE rings were easier to fit than the grill, which I managed to ding a few times, and had to remove, re-shape, and fit again!
First I attached the rear part to the bracket, then added the drums.
Then the front part of the ring was attached to the bracket.
The result looks much better than the moulded plastic rings, but I'm sure I'm not alone in finding this stuff very tricky to work with. Most of that is due to having to learn a new way of handling parts and using superglue in a more precise way. It makes plastic modelling seem much simpler now.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:46 pm
by Coen
Looks like you've figured it out buddy. They look perfect. A little damage to that grill is fine in my opinion. I always ding mine up on purpose for battle damage.
She looks great Sprue!
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:53 pm
by spruecutter
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:06 pm
by Paul
Nice Paint job pete, it looks great

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:10 pm
by Radzy
Nice jobe here... one of the few tanks I really enjoyed playing in WOT... and the only summer camo that counts

And it looks really good.
Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:29 pm
by T3hGuppy
That camo is really coming along dude.
Great job.

Re: SU100 Russian Tank Destroyer
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:21 pm
by Tiger131
that colour pops buddy looks superb