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Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:50 pm
by rodrant
My entry will be this kit ...

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Will have this extras

The Italeri Schnellboot crew in 1/35 , a Big ED from Eduard (even the kit itself has already some PE , will see during build if will use it or not ! ) , The metal Gun barrels for the Flak M42 3,7 cm 1 piece and 3 pieces for the Flak 38 20 mm from Master Model , resin depth charges from Schatton Modelbau , I was in doubt to use the depth charges or the Mines ...depth charges it will be

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Reference material (besides the Internet ....) this small but very interesting book from Osprey 'German E-Boats' ( S boot was the German reference, English is E-boat ) , also the kit has also a reference manual with lot of pictures that will show during the build

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now this kit is 99,9 cm long , that's a 1 meter long ..and I decided to do it not yet knowing where I will place it ... :lol:

It was some kit that I really like to build for some time , and this is the chance !

From Wikipedia"
Schnellboot or S-boot ("fast craft") is the designation for Motor Torpedo Boats of the German Navy since 1932. In particular it applies to that type of Boat that saw service during World War II. The Schnellboot was then called an E-boat by the Allies; it is commonly held that the "E" stood for "Enemy" , but it is possible that it stood for "Eilboot" ("hurry boat").
The S-boot was better suited to the open sea and had substantially longer range (approximately 700 nautical miles) than the American PT boat and the British Motor Torpedo Boat (MTB). As a result the Royal Navy developed many later versions of MTBs using the Fairmile 'D' hull design.

As a result of the Treaty of Versailles, Germany's military production was severely curtailed. Small patrol craft, however, were not subject to any strictures. The S-boote can trace their lineage back to a private motor yacht—a 22-ton-displacement, 34-knot craft called Oheka II, which had been built in 1927 for a wealthy financier and patron of the arts, Otto Kahn, by the German shipbuilding company Lürssen.
This design was chosen because the theatre of operations of such boats was expected to be the North Sea, English Channel and the Western Approaches. The requirement for good performance in rough seas dictated the use of a round-bottomed displacement hull rather than the flat-bottomed planing hull that was more usual for small, high-speed boats. Lürssen overcame many of the disadvantages of such a hull and, with the Oheka II, produced a craft that was fast, strong and seaworthy. This attracted the interest of the German Navy, which in 1929 ordered a similar boat but fitted with two torpedo tubes. This became the S-1, and was the basis for all subsequent S-boote.
After experimenting with the S-1 the Germans made several improvements to the design. Small rudders added on either side of the main rudder could be angled outboard to 30 degrees, creating at high speed what's known as the Lürssen Effect. This drew in an "air pocket slightly behind the three propellers, increasing their efficiency, reducing the stern wave and keeping the boat at a nearly horizontal attitude". This was an important innovation as the horizontal attitude lifted the stern somewhat, allowing even greater speed, and the reduced stern wave made S-boats harder to see, especially at night.
S-boote were often used to patrol the Baltic Sea and the English Channel in order to intercept shipping heading for the English ports in the south and east. As such, they were up against Royal Navy and Commonwealth (particularly Royal Canadian Navy contingents leading up to D-Day), Motor Gun Boats (MGBs), Motor Torpedo Boats (MTBs), Motor Launches, frigates and destroyers. They were also transferred in small numbers to the Mediterranean, and the Black Sea by river and land transport. Some small S-Boote were built as longboats for auxiliary cruisers.
Crew members could earn an award particular to their work—Das Schnellbootkriegsabzeichen—denoted by a badge depicting an S-boot passing through a wreath. The criteria were good conduct, distinction in action, and participating in at least twelve enemy actions. It was also awarded for particularly successful missions, displays of leadership or being killed in action. It could be awarded under special circumstances, such as when another decoration was not suitable.
Schnellboots of the 9th flotilla were the first naval units to respond to the invasion fleet of Operation Overlord. They left Cherbourg harbour at 5am on 6 June 1944. On finding themselves confronted by the entire invasion fleet, they fired their torpedoes at maximum range and returned to Cherbourg.
During World War II the S-boote sank 101 merchant ships totalling 214,728 tons. In addition, they sank 12 destroyers, 11 minesweepers, eight landing ships, six MTBs, a torpedo boat, a minelayer, one submarine and a number of small merchant craft. They also damaged two cruisers, five destroyers, three landing ships, a repair ship, a naval tug and numerous merchant vessels. Sea mines laid by the 'S-boote' were responsible for the loss of 37 merchant ships totalling 148,535 tons, a destroyer, two minesweepers and four landing ships.
In recognition of their service, the members of Schnellboot crews were awarded the Knight's Cross on 23 occasions, and the German Cross in Gold on 112 occasions.
At the end of the war about 34 S-boats were surrendered to the British. Three boats, S-130 (renamed P5230), S-208 (P5208) and S-212 (P5212) were retained for trials.
Between 1949 and 1956, Operation Jungle, a joint operation of MI6, the CIA, and the Gehlen Organization to insert agents into the Baltic states and Poland by sea, was established. Royal Navy Commander Anthony Courtney was struck by the potential capabilities of former E-boat hulls, and John Harvey-Jones of the Naval Intelligence Division was put in charge of the project. He discovered that the Royal Navy still had two E-boats, P5230 and P5208, and had them sent to Portsmouth, where one of them, P5230 (S130), was modified to reduce its weight and increase its power with the installation of three Napier Deltic engines of 3000hp. In the interests of deniability, a former German E-boat captain, Helmut Klose, and a German crew were recruited to man the E-boat. They operated under the cover of the British Control Commission's Fishery Protection Service, which was responsible for preventing Soviet navy vessels from interfering with German fishing boats and for destroying stray mines.
The Kriegsmarine supplied the Spanish Navy with six S-boats during the Second World War. Another six were built in Spain with some assistance from Lürssen. The German-built boats were discarded in the 1960s, while some of the Spanish-built ones served until the early 1970s.
The only surviving S-boat is the S-130. Built as hull No.1030 at the Schlichting boatyard in Travemünde, S-130 was commissioned on October 21, 1943 and took an active part in the war, participating in the Exercise Tiger attack and attacks on the D-day invasion fleet. Post World War 2, she was taken on by the Royal Navy, who used the ship during the Cold War to annoy the Soviet navy and land spies behind the Iron Curtain.
For some time, this vessel was privately owned but in the care of the British Military Powerboat Trust in Southampton, England. Due to the financial burden, S-97 was scrapped and the BMPT made at least one unsuccessful attempt to sell S-130 on eBay.
Now a virtual shell, S-130 was bought for £1 and is set to undergo a £3,000,000 restoration at the Southdown yard in Cornwall, England.

Length 34,94 m
Beam 5,10 m
Draught 2,90 m
Displacement 100/117 t
Complement 12
Armament :
2 x Torpedotubes 53,3 cm
2 x 20 mm Machinegun + 1 MG
Propulsion S100 and S136 3 x Daimler-Benz MB 501 Diesel engines 1500/2000 HP
Propulsion S139 to S150 3 x Daimler-Benz MB 501 A
Propulsion S167 to S 218 3 x Daimler-Benz MB 511
Propulsion S208 Trialboat for 3 x Daimler-Benz MB 518
Speed : 41 resp. 42 kts
Shipyards
Lürssen: S 100, S 136, S 134 - S 150, S 167 - S 186, S 195 - S 218
Schlichting: S 187 - S 194

Will build the Schnellboot from Oblt.z.S./Kptlt Hans-Jürgen Seeger, "S 205" 4. SFltl

The coat of arms of the 4.SFltl

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On the boats of the 4. SFltl the first letter of the commanding officer's name were painted onto the bridgehaous, the flotilla-coat of arms - the Panther - was painted on the hull under the bridge. Originally singel letters were used, later boats carried a combination of letters. On the sterns of some boats comets with numbers or signs were carried. "S 109" had a "Fox on Torpedo", similar to the "Weasel on Torpedo" of "S 102", as coat of arms before she got the Panther.

The commander's first letter name on the bridgehouse

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The S 205 (on the left of the photo )docked in 1945

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Roterdam Base , this base was very hard hit

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on the sea :

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going fast :

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Flak :

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DEpth charges and a Schnellboot on the horizon

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Surrender in Wilhemshaven in the end of WWII

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All the above info was taken from a very nice site full of info on this amazing Boats :

http://s-boot.net/index-english.html

lots of info and photos on the subject !

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:52 pm
by NorthernModeller
This looks like a large build, best of luck :)

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:41 pm
by pourquoi61
What an excellent choice you have there. :drool: :drool:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:51 pm
by Willem
Looking forward to seeing you build this mate. Love the look of these small craft and the kit looks good.

Great stuff.

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:19 am
by MarkVerploeg
That is one huge boat
I saw a diorama of harbor with one of these S boats earlier this year
They are really big in this scale
I wish you the best of luck tackeling this monster of a kit

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:29 am
by ROBOPAUL
WOW :jd: :jd: looking forward to seeing this build. I have this kit but I am still trying to collect the aftermarket stuff to go with it. Good luck.

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:41 am
by gaz45
Very nice kit mate good luck with the buld

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:32 am
by Jan01
Nice kit, I will be doing the half size version of this for this SIG. Will post later today.

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:54 pm
by Jan01
Good luck with your build too. :th:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:40 pm
by rodrant
First photos of the sprues ...

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the hull , I have this small table where I use to take photos , and this is almost the size of it !

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Instructions :

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PE (from the Italeri kit)

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DEcals on the same bag

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Screws , rope ...

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Booklet

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Small but interesting info and photos

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Some how to on the PE parts

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the MAin Flak Gun

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Color scheme ( I noticed that they are considering a red hull , I saw in my support book from Osprey , that could be black ...)

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The Big ED comes with two PE bags

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Seems for the guns and other stuff ...must study all instructions before start , this must be well planned so not to forgot to use all PE , even do not know if the Eduard is a complement of the one in the kit or if are some that replaces it ...seems not , but must check this .

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:59 pm
by Jan01
I came across this webpage and it says something there about red-brown color being used on later boats.
http://www.prinzeugen.com/colors.htm

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:09 pm
by rodrant
Jan01 wrote:I came across this webpage and it says something there about red-brown color being used on later boats.
http://www.prinzeugen.com/colors.htm
Thank you for the tip Jan01 ! :th: , looked at this site and some great info , well maybe will go for the red hull , interesting also about the rest of the colors , about the white reference ...really great !

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:13 am
by martin57
:jd: that looks like a fantastic kit , all the best with it :th:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:23 pm
by Jan01
rodrant wrote:
Jan01 wrote:I came across this webpage and it says something there about red-brown color being used on later boats.
http://www.prinzeugen.com/colors.htm
Thank you for the tip Jan01 ! :th: , looked at this site and some great info , well maybe will go for the red hull , interesting also about the rest of the colors , about the white reference ...really great !

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Your welcome, happy to help.

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:02 pm
by demarcation
:th: :pop:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:45 pm
by rodrant
Hi ,

it was about time to start on this one , finishing one figure and work getting in the midle ( in terms that I arrived home and not the minimum will to get on this ... :-)) , but today I make a start on it !

First thoughts ...to give up on this beast ...it really is BIG :-) , but we have a go on this one :

So checking the instructions :

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a big detail on the sprues

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First step ...the hull

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I started in making all the supports to fix both hull parts

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I should place some nuts inside so the screws could fix the suports to the hull ...at this point , I think I'm making everything except a model :lol:

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You see , we must place the screws in each hole and they will be fixed in the nut inside the support

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In here we also see that the hull (that come separately ) has some 'claning to be done , will do it after all done

so after all the screws were placed I also put some glue and place some clamps to help fixing the joints , let me tell you that the kit so far hasn't any fit issues ...

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time to make the rudders

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And for tonight that is al ...not much but to handle a big model like this is the more chalenge to do in this build :-)

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:34 pm
by rodrant
Some more work done this days on the boat ...
Hull

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Propellers fixed , her I start wondering what will be the best way to paint the boat , I decided to do the most I can and prime it and later will paint the details paint the hull and paint the details with brush , it is a big surface and a lot of small details specially in the cabin , but I was checking and maybe I can paint the all or most part of the hull and later add the small details later and paint them with brush , I expect to use a bucket of Paint doing it , and I think I must order more Ultimate Primer for this one as after it I will be with no stock around here :-)

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Torpedo tubes , this I should paint them in Gun Metal , but will paint later ...I hope I'm not wrong , this is all new to me :-)

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The first PE to be add ( from the kit) , here I also decided to use only the kit parts

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Interesting as the kit permit to depict the torpedo tubes closed ...

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or open ...

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it is a movable part

continuing , now starting the middle upper hull

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In this last photo you can see a rail ( or something that we must glue to the hull part ...) , well in the part we do not have any mark on where to fix it

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so we only have a picture to see more or less where to fit the parts ...

then to place the middle rear hull top

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very easy to fit and fit with no glue needed (some screws will be used later )

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some more PE added

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the screws to fit all and some small plastic covers to place on the rear middle screws hole

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Finishing the torpedo tube , now I think they are the torpedo launchers mechanism

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some small valvue mechanisms to fit in the sides

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and finishing the torpedo launchers

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all this parts fit with no glue needed , in this this is a superb kit , stil some flash and mould lines to take out

The size of it , I use this small table to get the pictures , and this kit is really big !

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No , this isn't an escort carrier for the PAcfic build , it is a corsair in 1/72 that I have built so to you can see the size of it , it really could do as a small carrier at this scale (1/72) , do not forget that this is 1/35 scale

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This is a torepdo launcher camera ready , must do two of them

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also you can have it open or closed , and that will be a choice when placing the torpedoes

some PE added , a small step metal

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And for today that's it ...

I'm now building only this , and a lot of work to do , but is being fun , and that is the most important part ...hmmm I'm now thinking to make a German port diorama in the tub ...would be nice :lol: :lol:

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:02 am
by rodrant
Little update , some work done in last nights , in Portugal it is too hot and no big will to be at the bench , but I did something on the Boat

Placed the torpedo supports ( The torpedoes will be painted separately )

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Today I did more PE (From the kit ) and start on the helmets supports

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The round grill and the step are for the cabin

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As you see this steps are all for the cabin

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This step wasn't easy ...I use a pen to try to make the round shapes , and this multiple support is hard to fix to plastic, I advice to first see the fit and then glue

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Top of the cabin

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The cabin ready

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and on the boat ...decided not to glue on this point , will paint it first , this kit is a good kit as the fit is great , we can leave the cabin fixed with no glue , I now see that I will have a difficult task that is to paint all the wood decks , there is one inside the command (for saying that ...) turret (where the target binoculars are )

Also the pilotcabin must leave it loose for now , as I must place the rudder and some instrument panels ...

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This is going slow , but now I have most of the boat built , still some PE to add , but will be painting this beast the more challenge part , I even order for some more Tamiya paints in order to paint it in ...

Thank you for watching !

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:57 am
by chief5437
:jd: wow! What a great looking kit! Sounds like your enjoying the build. Can't wait to see her in your bathtub, lol! :th: :th:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:35 pm
by rodrant
One more update ...seems that everything is the same , but I placed a lot of PE now ...

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My best friend doing the PE , the Ultimate PE placer :-)

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On the rudder cabin ...

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This last will all become hidden or mostly hidden, sometimes I wonder the effort :think:

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I decided to do it with the hatches closed

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All isn't glued , I guess I will paint it first and then add all the clear parts in the cabin

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Some more PE in the torpedo tubes

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Almost finished ...the boat castle of course ...

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:21 pm
by d6mst0
You are doing some really nice work with that PE. How do you like that PE stick from Ultimate?

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:36 pm
by rodrant
d6mst0 wrote:You are doing some really nice work with that PE. How do you like that PE stick from Ultimate?
Thank you ! Well I'm a little tired of all this PE , and I didn't use all of it , still a lot to do in the guns :-)

about the PE stick is very nice , to 'grab' those small pieces and to place them in the proper place , I use it a lot , but it is in this build that I noticed how usefull this small tool ( think I can call this a tool :-) ) is .

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:08 pm
by Jan01
Its coming along nicely, plenty of PE still to go I take it.

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:38 pm
by MarkVerploeg
Sticking metal to styrene is always nice to do
The boat is starting to look pretty nice with all the extra stuff
Looking forward to seeing some more

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:34 pm
by Willem
PEtastic mate. It's going to look a killer when it's done though buddy.

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:57 am
by pourquoi61
WOW, what a kit,what a build. Fantastic my friend. :jd: :jd: :jd: :jd:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:45 pm
by rodrant
Thank ypu all for the nice comments ... but only three weeks or so , and I was distracted by other stuff , maus re-start on it very soon if not I will have my first SiG not completed :scratch::

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:44 am
by digger303
looks really choice. Your doing a good job and I'm sure even with the bits you won't be able to see well. At the end you will be very pleased. :th: :th: :cheers2:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:54 pm
by darkhelmet25
Even if you miss the SIG deadline, I'd love to see your ongoing work on this amazing kit. What you've done thus far is very inspirational - would great to see how it continues to progress. Thanks

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:48 pm
by Les0012
You guys are really brave attempting kits of this type with a deadline to build to.

Looking great though, hope you manage to finish it in time mate as it is looking awesome.

Les

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:45 pm
by rodrant
Clock is ticking and honsestly I think I will not finish ot on time , less than a week now and still a lot of stuff to do , this will probably be my first ISM SiG that I will not finish on time , and yes it was Big , a lot of PE , will finish it of course , but later , still to paint , build the guns and a lot of small stuff , figures and so on ...and only few hours at night after the work to finish it , only a miracle now ... :-)

well some update

we must drill and cut some of the front upper hull cover

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The front 37mm Flak Pit , has some nice PE from the Eduard Big Set to depict the door ...

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now to place all rail supports along all the hull

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the front Flak Ammo Cartridges supports , we must cut some plastic from the kit parts and they are to be replaced by the PE

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Also the midlle hull compass , and more hull parts , on top of this hatches will be the rubber boats

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Some PE rivet details added to the base of the Bridge

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The Depth Charge rails

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More photos from the hull from the above

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Smoke Generators

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Here where we can also see the detail of the DEpth Charge Rails already placed

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Torpedoes done and ready to paint

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Placing the guards

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I miss a cover of that screw in the front hull

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Justo to have an idea of the size it is the lenght of two A3 Tamiya cutting matts side by sjde

Guns

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Will use this Aftermarket kit for the gun barrels

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Instructions

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side by side , the plastic barrel and the metal one ..-the plastic ones are very good in my opinion , need some cleaning , but they are ok ...

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So we must cut and drill inside the body if the gun

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And here is thr«e first 37 mm Flak , I also added some Eduard PE , but not all , at this point I really do not use all PE ...I'm now a little tired of this build

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Another one

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And that 's it , I will start painting now the Hull , finish the guns and check all small stuff that I still must do , but I really will not have the time to finish this one before the 30th September ...also I do some stuff in the middle so , I didn't focus on this all time, it is a massive model and it is to do in paralel ith other builds and with time , that is my advice !

Until my next update on this BIG Build fellow modellers !

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Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:45 pm
by darkhelmet25
Thanks for the update!!! This is a fantastic build - please keep going and showing us the progress - very impressive!

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:37 pm
by DBMiller
What a beauty! :bow::

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:41 am
by digger303
wow so much PE....with my big thumbs most of it would be lost or broken :bow:: :th:

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:21 pm
by darkhelmet25
Hi Antonio,

Just curious if you've done any additional work on this massive project. I just purchased the kit and am in the process of tracking down some aftermarket to go with it. Not sure when I'll start, but your work has been an inspiration. Any updates and guidance is most appreciated.

Matt

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:13 pm
by Erok68
Hello :-)
This is realy helpfull info.
Can you put some pictures of your model finiched painted also.
Love to se that as i am going to build it my selfe.

Cheers

Re: Italeri 1/35 German WWII S-100 Schnellboot

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:26 pm
by digger303
Erok68 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:13 pm Hello :-)
This is realy helpfull info.
Can you put some pictures of your model finiched painted also.
Love to se that as i am going to build it my selfe.

Cheers
He hasn't posted for a while and this threads last post was 2016