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1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:44 pm
by Always48
Bit of a tough kit im lead to believe from reading various internet sources. Still collecting aftermarket stuff for it and thinking of posing it in a state of repair on a maintance Diorama.
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looking forward to making a start on something. :whistle:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:27 pm
by ElCapitan
I've been looking at this kit for this year's Feline Fever GB, so will be interested to see how it goes together!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:33 am
by Lysus
:pop:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:40 am
by chief5437
I was thinking about this kit, I must have been reading the same reviews as well. I was undecided about getting it, but you've made the decision for me, lol!

I'll follow along to see how it goes, maybe I can do it for the feline gb.

Good luck with the build, it'll look great in winter cam!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:32 pm
by Always48
being as this one has so much on show ive searched interwebby and grabbed some pics to help us out
some ref material,

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so ive made a start and progressed front to rear fuselage straight away, dont want to be caught out with rough seam lines blocked by intakes and other parts later on. pics to follow shortly.

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:52 pm
by Always48
Ok so work has started in Ernest. Firstly being scared of the way the kit has you build up front and rear sections of the fuselage and put them together at the later stages of the build made me do some dry fitting. Some obvious flaws stood out straight away. Firstly the shape of the spine behind the canopy is different, then the side joints would also be impossible to fill and sand. So I've decided to build the kit with the front and rear sides of the fuselage stuck together from the outset. As seen here

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As you can see I've sanded and filled already, I will have to move the panel line just below the spine where it will disappear behind the intake once fitted like this

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Then fitted in the resin bays like so. To get the wheel bays to fit you have to shave of the corner to fit as shown by the file tips. Also the landing gear has to be installed at this stage, I just couldn't see a way round it.

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Also the cockpit does not fit out the box with the rear bulkhead being pushed away from the sides by to much plastic thickness on the inside of the fuselage. A quick shave sorts that though

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Well that's where I'm at as of now, next up ill spray the bays a detail up before closing the lids with a small dot of canopy glue so I can pop them open again later after the paint jobs finished. The cockpit will be decided upon later as I'm trying to decide between PE, kit PE or a resin set.

Thanks for shopping by :cheers2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:59 pm
by ElCapitan
Good update!

Do you predict any disadvantages to joining the front and rear fuselage parts already?

Why would it not be possible to add the undercarriage at the end?

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:41 pm
by Always48
ElCapitan wrote:Good update!

Do you predict any disadvantages to joining the front and rear fuselage parts already?

Why would it not be possible to add the undercarriage at the end?
Thanks Capt. no problems that I can see as yet, I keep dry fitting everything. One point to note is the nose spreads outwards viewed top down as the sides are ever so slightly banana-Ed. But no force required as yet lol. It'll be fiddly getting the exhaust bay to line up but I've done that in the dry fits ok. You just have to glue it from the rear end first a let that cure then keep slowly moving forwards from my observations.

Undercarriage is a pig to get in, I glued the resin air brake bays in and just getting the leg in afterwards on them was a mare. You have to view it from inside the plane to twist it in right. Then cover it with the landing gear bay. Maybe it was harder due to the resin, but I spent 5mins filling to get them to fit.

Another note is I built one leg more than the other just so I don't get a parts muddle later. jags have some funny angles with the leg angled forward and out, then the trailing arm hangs backs at a different angle.

Hope that helps :cheers2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:59 pm
by Bissyboat
Nice progress on the Jag. :thumb2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:56 pm
by Always48
Bissyboat wrote:Nice progress on the Jag. :thumb2:
Thanks Biss :cheers2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:50 pm
by Always48
so got a couple of hours, wife and kids have a party to go to. looked at the dog and said shall we go sit in the cold and carry on with that winter Jag.....his like WTF i aint moving man.
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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:26 pm
by chief5437
Always48 wrote:so got a couple of hours, wife and kids have a party to go to. looked at the dog and said shall we go sit in the cold and carry on with that winter Jag.....his like WTF i aint moving man.
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Ha ha!!

Nice progress so far bud. I'm leaning a bit closer to the buy side now. I'll keep following to see how the rest goes, good luck!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:21 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
I bet with a little bacon in hand you could bribe that helper off the couch :D
Lovely pup you have :thumb2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:50 pm
by Willem
Can sympathize with the pooch as I'm trying to motivate myself to climb the rickety stairs to the draughty spot under the eaves and get on with a build.

Lovely stuff so far, Bud. I get the feeling that this could turn epic.

:pop:

:cheers2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:30 pm
by Always48
Bit of a update, today my aires cockpit arrived. so i can crack on with that next week as it looks like a kit to build in itself!
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so in prep i made some progress with the engines and avonics bay.
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now those engines look ok but the one thats open is begging for some scratch building. so after digging around the world wide thingy i saw these pics and tried to copy as best i could using a bit styrene sheet and old wire thats used for training plants. the smaller stuff was .5mm solder. i tried just to busy it up a bit. the finer stuff would have to be smaller than a hair so skipped them.

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my interpretation

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built as follows.

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so thats about it for now. thanks for checking by

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:38 pm
by Lysus
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Holy engines! Those look amazing.

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:29 am
by chief5437
Nice work on those engines!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:53 am
by StarFar
Engines look great! Well done :th:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:23 am
by snowman819
Nice work on the jets.

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:31 am
by ElCapitan
Awesome detailing!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:10 pm
by Always48
Thanks guys. appreciate you stopping in for ganders. :th:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:10 pm
by Always48
So I opted for the Aires gr1 cockpit. BOY it is like a build all in itself. The seat belts alone took me a whole evening just to fold and pass little tiny buckles through the belts. So much so I had to keep walking away from it, have a cuppa before I could steady my hands enough to cracking on. So here's the pics of that part.
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Look at these tiny things I've built

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And them on the seat. Still gotta paint them as yet.

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Well that's the seat. Next up the cockpit

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:24 pm
by Always48
I didn't take many pics of the pit before paint and just got it built and installed.

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Was a bitch to get the it anywhere near closing up. I had the dreamed out on both sides of the fuselage as I sanded so much of either side of the pit the resin was almost see through. Even so the plastic on the starboard side took a beating which has left me a bit of a gap at the canopy seal. I'll fill that with plasticard shim I think. Here's the pic of port side internal
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With that done it's time to get the two half's of the fuselage together. Well that was another evenings work and as I was slowly moving forward this is the amount of twist in the front section...

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I had to super glue to tac that. Then cemented. Tomorrow will tell if it came out all good... fingers are crossed

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:07 pm
by ElCapitan
Looks like a bit of a nightmare getting that cockpit in, but it looks really good!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:03 pm
by Always48
ElCapitan wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:07 pm Looks like a bit of a nightmare getting that cockpit in, but it looks really good!
that would be a understatement mate.

i have got the kit closed up now, but got quite a bit of seem sanding to do around the nose. more to follow as course... but for now im pretty fed up. can see why this kit gets shelfed :pistols:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:52 pm
by Always48
:banana:

Well after a weekend of fettling, sanding, filling more sanding, and scribing i have one jag. The plastic is fairly hard so the sanding took forever. Well everything has took forever to be fair. I even had to reset the nose twice. but i think im there abouts.
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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:57 pm
by Fridgy
Looking good
Although the over the wing hard points just look odd to me

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:46 am
by Willem
"Straighten Up and Fly Right".

Great job on getting that nose aligned. Love the shape of the Jag.

:cheers2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:02 am
by Bissyboat
Looks great mate. It´s all coming together. :th:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:00 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Nice stuff
Your awesome work on the seatbelt PE really stands out to me...that looks VERY realistic
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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:11 pm
by Always48
Thanks guys for the kind comments :th: . it is by far the toughest kit ive built to date, it could have flown many times without wings :shhh:

Personally i love the overwing pylons. they look better with winders onboard obviously :th: Its kinda a british thing like the lightning with overwing pylons. Jags are very cool in my book, this is statement is made from memorys of me younger days watching them fly out from Coltishall in Norfolk

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:22 pm
by Always48
Of course with such a hard kit to build i had to build a simpler Airfix kit. so me and my 2 recruits taking some fun build time together whilst letting them experience the feeling of creating the joys of modeling.

2 warhawks and a little old Tiger Moth

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:25 pm
by Always48
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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:40 am
by ElCapitan
Awesome, how did they get on?

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:15 pm
by Bissyboat
They look very keen on building those kits. :pop:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:28 pm
by Tomcat64
Well done on persevering with this one - the fit looks to be a nightmare but the addition of the detail in the cockpit and the extra work you've done on the exposed engine really look the business!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:07 pm
by Always48
ElCapitan wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:40 am Awesome, how did they get on?
Bissyboat wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:15 pm They look very keen on building those kits. :pop:
Thanks capt and bissy, l / they have done great so far ill have to get pics. all fuselages built already and cockpits in. all OOB builds which feels nice :banana: :dance:
Tomcat64 wrote: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:28 pm Well done on persevering with this one - the fit looks to be a nightmare but the addition of the detail in the cockpit and the extra work you've done on the exposed engine really look the business!
Thanks buddy, hopefully i dont screw it up in the paint shop lol

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:10 pm
by Always48
so today i got a couple of hours in on the old Jag, mostly still not happy with seems, but i did notice something thats been niggling me for a while.... the Aux style inlet duct just before the tail. The kit has done little to recreate the opening so i drilled it out. Then out came the files and a smidge of plasticard. this is the result so far.

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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:42 pm
by Always48
Under a coat of Ultimate black primer. And the making good starts all over again..
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Weapons load out potentially

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Well like I said just a couple of hours. Will it ever be ready for paint? That's what I keep asking lol

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:06 pm
by Bissyboat
Fantastic news that the young ones are getting involved into building kits. They must have the patience of a saint. Great progress on the Jag, btw. :thumb2:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:52 am
by Always48
well the drama continued. But i have finally got the camo down in the 2nd time of asking. 1st time the vajello (grey colour ) reacted and crazed lik crazy when i layed it over the top of mr hobby off-white. could have cried :wall:

so had to rub it down again all over :pistols:

ive settled on the xf2 and vajello grey. i guess ill will have to weather it down but at least its flipping painted.

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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 3:59 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Looking really good
You guys are killing this winter camo, just looks awesome :thumb2:

Fire up a photo into Dan's live show thread with a short description of model, paints etc...get some good exposure of your build that it deserves
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=21655

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:46 am
by Tomcat64
Wow - this one is determined to make you work for the finish isn't it??

Great perseverance to keep at it and starting to come together well - hope the paint dramas are done and the finish will be easier from here on.

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:37 pm
by Always48
Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:46 am Wow - this one is determined to make you work for the finish isn't it??

Great perseverance to keep at it and starting to come together well - hope the paint dramas are done and the finish will be easier from here on.
Thanks mate, shes had a beating this weekend. feel completely exhuasted with it TBH. well heres 13 photos of where she sits right know, ive decaled and flat coated. Talking of decals these ones are incredibly thin. many had to be repaired as they would shatter when positioning. I was like Arrrrrgggghhh FFs.
so with that done i still have weapons fit and a bit more wear n tear to add. bit off touching up and i should see her done.
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Well thanks fir looking and any criticise welcome, and ill do my best to answer

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:49 pm
by Smiffy
A damn fine looking Jaguar :th:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:50 pm
by ElCapitan
Looks great, you're doing an awesome job!

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:07 pm
by Zen
That's looking great indeed! :th:

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:05 pm
by snowman819
looks very nice.
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Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:42 pm
by Always48
snowman819 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:05 pm looks very nice.
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Zen wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:07 pm That's looking great indeed! :th:
ElCapitan wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:50 pm Looks great, you're doing an awesome job!
Smiffy wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:49 pm A damn fine looking Jaguar :th:
Thanks guys, its been a real test of ones sanity. Its one of those kits that i dont think id do again. I base this on the feeling you get when your on the last stages of a kit and you just think I would love to build another one in a different scheme....well this aint one of them lol

Re: 1/48 Winter Jaguar

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:53 pm
by Always48
small but needed improvement, as the intakes have no trunking so it would be totally possible to see inside a empty plane...Fod covers with a simple step by step pic guide. i wont go wild on details as a pic say a million words.


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how too guide

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