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Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:45 am
by Stokesy44
Hi All

In line with the current trend, I'm going to try marbleing on my next aircraft. When I came back to the hobby and started using an AB for the first time the pre-shade was all the rage, now it seems black basing is the way to go so being a slave to fashion I thought I'd give it the old college try.

I've seen a few tutorial but I just wanted to check something. If I prime with black, what colours do I use for the marbling on say a standard RAF late war 3 colour European camo scheme (Sky, Grey and Green)?

As ever, any replies are much appreciated.

Thanks, David
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Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:05 am
by Bangorlad
Interesting. I've primed a few armour models in black then airbrushed a series of thin coats of the main colour making them progressively lighter towards the centre of panels, hatches etc. I've never tried it on an aircraft but from what I gather the process is generally similar.
Hope this is of some help.
Cheers

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:56 am
by Stokesy44
Bangorlad wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:05 am Interesting. I've primed a few armour models in black then airbrushed a series of thin coats of the main colour making them progressively lighter towards the centre of panels, hatches etc. I've never tried it on an aircraft but from what I gather the process is generally similar.
Hope this is of some help.
Cheers
Thanks Dave. I don't think that's the technique I'm after but I appreciate the reply nonetheless. I'm actually painting a Sherman today so I may try out your method. Its already primed with black so why not eh? :th:

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:40 am
by cptgandy
I do like black basing on aircraft but I have not done much of it so still need more practice :)

My first go at it, I used about 1ml of paint on the underside of the spitfire
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These are the two guides I used

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Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:28 pm
by Stokesy44
cptgandy wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:40 am I do like black basing on aircraft but I have not done much of it so still need more practice :)

These are the two guides I used

And
Perfect. Thanks Cap. This is exactly what I was looking for.

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:09 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Marking that for reference
Thanks for the links
I wonder what will be the next fad in modelling :think:

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:17 pm
by ElCapitan
This is what I do too. Much more realistic!

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:22 pm
by Lysus
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:09 pm Marking that for reference
Thanks for the links
I wonder what will be the next fad in modelling :think:
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Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:47 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Lysus wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:22 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:09 pm Marking that for reference
Thanks for the links
I wonder what will be the next fad in modelling :think:
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Oh god, what was that movie??
Chevy Chase and he dresses up in disguises...mmmm can't remember

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:03 am
by Lysus
Fletch!

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:20 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Right, that's it!!!

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:56 am
by Stokesy44
Lysus wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:03 amFletch!
"It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am not a big man."

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:13 am
by Paul
I've been doing a different approach to this for the least year to two years now, I prime in black then use that to help shade the paint. I find priming in black also shows flaws in seams etc too. I then come in and fade shade as usual. I've been getting a good effect i think

Re: Pre-shading is Sooo Last Year

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:50 am
by Stokesy44
Paul wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:13 am I've been doing a different approach to this for the least year to two years now, I prime in black then use that to help shade the paint. I find priming in black also shows flaws in seams etc too. I then come in and fade shade as usual. I've been getting a good effect i think
Thanks Paul. The final look of your Javelin is similar to some of the aircraft I've seen where the black basing approach has been used. Its fascinating to see how markedly different techniques can achieve similar but subtly different results.
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