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Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:49 pm
by Pistol
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First attempt at this- tamiya colour charts a bit dodgy but intend to to try one of the ultimate washes. What do you reckon- light or dark dirt?

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:40 am
by digger303
I don't build planes much, but I would tend to go for the light dirt. So as to just create panel lines that can be easily seen, but not so dark to look amazingly cruddy. It isn't a tank, it moves fast and a lot of rubbish cannot stick. Closer to the engine some of the dark might be realistic....close to exhausts, gun bays and vents and perhaps behind some of the lumps and bumps on some aircraft where the air swirls. Even mixing the light and dark together to have a medium shade might be useful.

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:17 am
by Paul
If it was me i would mix some concrete in with the dark dirt to lighten it bit and that should do you fine, you want it dark enough to be able to see it without it being too in our face.

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:43 am
by Pistol
That's unanimous then. Thanks both, I'll order some concrete to lighten the dark up a bit. I've not had much success with the Tamiya panel line accent-I find the X20 too harsh removing the excess-even on top of Alclad. So looking forward to a better outcome using my first wash. Is the Ultimate acrylic based btw?

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:17 am
by digger303
Pistol wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:43 am That's unanimous then. Thanks both, I'll order some concrete to lighten the dark up a bit. I've not had much success with the Tamiya panel line accent-I find the X20 too harsh removing the excess-even on top of Alclad. So looking forward to a better outcome using my first wash. Is the Ultimate acrylic based btw?
Ultimate wash is clay based...just when you thought you had it sorted.... ;)
:cheers2:

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:24 pm
by schweinhund227
Gloss first !

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:06 pm
by Pistol
Will Alclad it to death but thanks! :bash:

Re: Wash

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:18 am
by CharleyGnarlyP290
What schweinhund227 said. The Ultimate clay washes were a game changer for me and aircraft. It works really well... but, gloss first!!! Looks like you got it covered, but I found out that flat paints, especially Tamiya, sucks it up like crazy and won't wipe off at all.

Re: Wash

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:49 pm
by Pistol
Are you saying the clay wash can't be removed from tamiya paint even with a good gloss coat??

Re: Wash

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:01 pm
by Paul
Pistol wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:49 pm Are you saying the clay wash can't be removed from tamiya paint even with a good gloss coat??
NO he's saying that on matt paint the wash sticks very well

Re: Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:00 am
by Pistol
Whoops thanks Paul - clearly I misunderstood

Re: Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:40 am
by digger303
As Paul says, its like trying to get sand paper clean.

Re: Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:31 pm
by Pistol
Understood, thanks :thumb2:

Re: Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:45 pm
by schweinhund227
Pistol wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:31 pm Understood, thanks :thumb2:
why not run a test... on some plastic... NOT your kit at first...

Use the same paints... and try a Ultimate wash on a semi gloss and then gloss protected paint and see what works for you .. and maybe run a test on untreated paints ?

Then you will have all the bases covered and know what works best for you ! (Gloss wise) it seems to be a great products for aircraft lads !
Happy modelling ! :cheers2:

Re: Wash

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:51 am
by wookiee76
I recently added a video in my "how i do" series that covers using both Ultimate and enamel washes.



Hopefully this helps, it's the reason i make these videos.

Re: Wash

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:36 pm
by Pistol
Great, thanks both :cheers2:

Re: Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:49 pm
by Pistol
Thanks for all the advice everyone- very pleased with the ultimate wash. Special thanks to Paul for his build tutorials. It meant that this, my second novice build, was completed instead of ending up in the bin. That makes a very nice change believe me! Thanks again :cheers2:
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Re: Wash

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:29 pm
by Paul
That looks excellent great job, glad you found the advice useful :thumb2:

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:47 pm
by Pistol
Thank you Paul, much appreciated :cheers2:

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:06 pm
by schweinhund227
Turned out Really Nice !!! Keep up the good work !

Re: Wash

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:44 pm
by Pistol
Thanks I'll certainly try! :crazy:

Re: Wash

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:57 am
by digger303
Nice :th: :th: :th: :mrgreen:

Re: Wash

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:10 am
by Pistol
Many thanks digger!