Newbie Advice Please - Panel Lining

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Hi All

Bit of advice for a newbie if you wouldn't mind. I have just finished painting a kit and for once I am pleased with the result. I have given it a coating of Alclad 2 Lacquer Gloss Kote and I now wish to panel line it.

Can anyone give me any tips on what panel liner to use, and importantly what to use to clean it up that wont erode/attack the lacquer as I am terrified I am going to ruin it!

Many, many thanks in advance :th:

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Just to warn you, I have read a lot of people having trouble with the Klear Kote gloss not drying and being sticky for weeks - you might want to try the Aqua Gloss from Alclad instead :th:

I suggest Ultimate washes if you go for Aqua Gloss, they wash off with water and are dead easy :) I have never used them with Klear Kote so can't recommend them for that, but I wouldn't worry :)
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sheppsea wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:47 am Just to warm you, I have read a lot of people having trouble with the Klear Kote gloss not drying and being sticky for weeks - you might want to try the Aqua Gloss from Alclad instead :th:

I suggest Ultimate washes if you go for Aqua Gloss, they wash off with water and are dead easy :) I have never used them with Klear Kote so can't recommend them for that, but I wouldn't worry :)

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Yes I have not been able to get the alclad laquer to cure properly even months later.

Also I'm not sure it works well with oil washes.
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Thanks all, I heard similar about the Alclad not curing so I did three very light coats and I am going to leave it for a few days to dry properly. I may not panel wash this one, for fear of screwing it all up and learn my lesson for my next project.
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You should be able to use an acrylic wash without any problems, and Ultimate :th:

Edit: It really is worth doing a wash, its one of the parts of the modelling process that brings the model to life IMO :)
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sheppsea wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:25 pm You should be able to use an acrylic wash without any problems, and Ultimate :th:

Edit: It really is worth doing a wash, its one of the parts of the modelling process that brings the model to life IMO :)
Agreed, give it a go on a test piece first but it's worth doing.
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Thank you all for your valuable advice, I think that on this occasion I may try an Acrylic wash. Thanks again. Dylan
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Water based washes on top of Aqua Gloss are virtually fool proof. Ultimate washes or artists chalks as a sludge wash work beautifully on top of aqua gloss or even on top of Klear (yes, I mean the floor polish) if you're not splashing out on bespoke products.

When I first came back to the hobby I used Klear as a gloss coat and pastel chalks for my washes. I didn't want to spend money on bespoke products before I had some idea of how to do stuff. I graduated to better products once I knew (kind of) what I was doing.
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To echo Stokesy44, Alclad Aqua Gloss ALC600 is near bullet proof for weathering regardless of type of medium used once it's dry. I usually let it dry 24 hours and it'll truck anything I've thrown at it. I'm a fan of Aqua Gloss followed by decals that are sealed with Aqua Gloss then weathering. I use a lot of acrylic washes and the ALC600 never lets me down. I've used lacquers over ALC600 as well and its handled it like a champ.

However, it can be a bit of a pain to get the ALC600 to completely coat something (you almost need a complete looking coat over the model for it to really be coated.) It can pool/run rather easily. So you may need to coat something 2 or 3 times. HOWEVER, if ALC600 does run, I use a wet q-tip and wisk away the run. This technique has always worked for me. YMMV but I've had excellent luck with it. If it does run, I get the q-tip wet, and roll it across the runnage area until I can't see white anymore (it makes a milky white appearance when it runs.)
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aur0ra145 wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:04 am To echo Stokesy44, Alclad Aqua Gloss ALC600 is near bullet proof for weathering regardless of type of medium used once it's dry. I usually let it dry 24 hours and it'll truck anything I've thrown at it. I'm a fan of Aqua Gloss followed by decals that are sealed with Aqua Gloss then weathering. I use a lot of acrylic washes and the ALC600 never lets me down. I've used lacquers over ALC600 as well and its handled it like a champ.

However, it can be a bit of a pain to get the ALC600 to completely coat something (you almost need a complete looking coat over the model for it to really be coated.) It can pool/run rather easily. So you may need to coat something 2 or 3 times. HOWEVER, if ALC600 does run, I use a wet q-tip and wisk away the run. This technique has always worked for me. YMMV but I've had excellent luck with it. If it does run, I get the q-tip wet, and roll it across the runnage area until I can't see white anymore (it makes a milky white appearance when it runs.)
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