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Help! Please.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:23 am
by ForbesHutton
So I finished painting a Panther in a ambush camo.

This one's an experiment, due to low cost and I wanted to see if I could manage the ambush camo. I'm happy with it and still want to experiment on this one.

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(Sorry, only camera is on a Blackberry).

Anyways, what I'm hoping is someone will help me with a program of tinting/washing/weathering.

What I need is a break-down of what to use, when to use it and why. Name some products please. I'm having a hard time figuring out which products/techniques can be used together. There always seems to be information missing in the videos, etc, for example, there's plenty of great videos that cover some of what I need to know but then they don't mention what to use for the final seal, they either stop at the last weathering or they just say "then I sealed it"...with what?!

So if you have the time, what do I do, step by step, product by product?

All paint on it is Tamiya acrylic.



Btw - Gav0909, you've been warned about the size of the PZH.2000. Here a picture of the (soon to be) AS-90 hull and turret next to the PZH.2000 to give you an idea of the size. It really seems like it needs two hands to pick it up.

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Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:20 am
by Coen
That panther look awesome Forbes!
You nailed that ambush pattern.
Well done.
I can understand wanting to make sure you get the weathering right. She's a beaut!!!
Before typing out an entire step by step Forbes...
I did a video series that involves weathering, I don't know if you've seen it?
It's on my channel under the Barkmann panther. If it's of no use to you I'm sure one of us would be happy to write down the steps we use to apply weathering.

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 10:29 am
by Paul
Beautiful paintwork' you nailed that ambush pattern, follows Coens advice and you won't go wrong with the weathering :thumb2:

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:12 pm
by ForbesHutton
Thanks. This as it turns out was an happy accident. I had intended to make the "stripes" thinner but the blu-tack didn't want to stick without the greater surface area of wider patches. Looking at it now, the thinner patches would have looked bad when the dotting was added. Now I know so it will work well when I get around to the Stug I'm planning.

This one is really a test-bed. If I can get some nice weathering on it I'll fix the tracks with some aftermarket. The rubber band Tamiya tracks are so tight they're like slingshots, if you look hard you can see the drive wheels are pulled back and to the side.

Coen, love what you do, but some of your stuff is home-made/home-brewed. I what to stick with off-the-shelf products, it's one less thing for me to screw up (and the local fire department know requires 24 hours notice before I try and mix anything "chemical-y"). Any suggestions on ready made products that could be used in the place of your creations?

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:50 pm
by Wayne
@Coen Hi buddy.

Any chance you could tell what part number your video is in please. There must be 20 something parts to your mega build bud. Could take me weeks to find it lol

Thanks bud.

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:48 am
by Radzy
Hi,

I think it starts in episode 19 and continues for 2-3
Chipping first, then pin washes, filters and so on...

[youtube]nISc4jS8gU8[/youtube]

Great work Coen with this videos!

Regards,
Radek

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:51 am
by Wayne
Radzy wrote:Hi,

I think it starts in episode 19 and continues for 2-3
Chipping first, then pin washes, filters and so on...

[youtube]nISc4jS8gU8[/youtube]

Great work Coen with this videos!

Regards,
Radek
Awesome thanks for saving me so much time bud :D

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:54 am
by Radzy
Pitstop25 wrote: Awesome thanks for saving me so much time bud :D
No probs m8. I watched Coen's vids few days ago and somehow I just jumped into correct part :)

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:00 am
by Wayne
Sweet. Love it when stuff like that happens :D

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:57 am
by Coen
Wow... I slept right through all that. Crap.
I had a mad house day today and I'm just sitting down now, then it's off to bed.
glad to see you've got it figured. I have to start labeling my vids better than I do. It would make thing easier on you fellas.
Sorry about that Pitstop.


And Forbes... I can't believe I hadn't answered your question.
The forum is getting so big now it's getting hard for me to keep up.
Some builds I haven't had any time to watch at all lately. Sigh.
I assume that you've figured things out for yourself by now... if not let me know eh?

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:45 am
by ForbesHutton
Coen wrote:
And Forbes... I can't believe I hadn't answered your question.
The forum is getting so big now it's getting hard for me to keep up.
Some builds I haven't had any time to watch at all lately. Sigh.
I assume that you've figured things out for yourself by now... if not let me know eh?
I've been distracted myself. BTW - how much PE did you use on the deck? :tongue:

I'm going to try tea as a wash and weather with the Tamiya make-up kits. It seems no-one has tried tea or coffee as a wash.

Re: Help! Please.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:00 am
by Coen
Oh they have, it works on some finishes. Best on acrylics for some reason. I've never tried that one , but I know some old school ship modellers that use coffee and tea and it seems to work... Sorta.
Da Mad Modeler uses makeup kits. He says that the colours are better.

And I used 9kgs of PE on the deck. They call them screws, nails, and joist hangers for some reason.
Haha