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A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:50 pm
by Hawkmoon

Hi all
Going to do this winter dio I have been planing for a while first off is the kit the AFV Club Achilles tank destroyer because of there thin armour they would use stealth often laying in wait behind cover for the German counter attack with tanks so they could pick them off one by one. The dio will be of a Achilles lying in wait using a house and wall with gate as cover with a winter theme.
A little bit of history on the Achilles when the tanks arrived from the US the tanks were fitted with the standard US anti-tank gun but there was a problem with this gun a shortage of available shells. The British had quite a few 17 pounder anti-tank guns available and a plentiful supply of shells for that gun. So after the upgrade all Britsh M10's were called Wolverines first and after the changes made to the turret to accommodate the 17 pounder 'Achilles'.
The kit is to AFV's usual standard and in green styrene and includes a turned metal gun barrel. The kit also has winter camo version in the instructions paint guide. The tracks provided with the kit are the wrong type so the Bronco working tracks were obtained to replace them. I also got the latest book on the M10. Other extras are the Eduard etch set, legend stowage set, crew set, miniart dio set,paint sets and finally the Krycell snow system.
The kit-
P2162022 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162024 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162028 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162029 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162031 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162034 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162035 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P2162037 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Book-
P3132679 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Tracks-
P2232475 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Etch-
P2232474 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Baggage set-
P2202371 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Crew-
P2232471 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Dio base-
P2232477 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Snow system-
P9154471 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Andy

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:59 pm
by Quax
Wow Andy this looks like it's going to be very cool,

definitely going to keep an eye on it!
Cheers Paul
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:52 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:56 pm
by TheNordus
Looks like you have good kits for a nice diorama. I'll be looking at your progress, definitely.
By the way, I think its a Mk. 2c Achilles, not a Mk. 11.
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:09 am
by digger303
Wow very nice upgrades, this is going to look spick when you have finished. I haven't seen that snow system before . Is it good ?
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:27 am
by Hawkmoon
TheNordus wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:56 pm
Looks like you have good kits for a nice diorama. I'll be looking at your progress, definitely.
By the way, I think its a Mk. 2c Achilles, not a Mk. 11.
It's the brits and there confusing armour designations there was a 1c and then a 11c so all they did was add another 1 to the one already there instead of putting a 2 there. One plus one equals two so to speak. Thanks for looking in and your comments.
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:37 am
by Hawkmoon
digger303 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:09 am
Wow very nice upgrades, this is going to look spick when you have finished. I haven't seen that snow system before . Is it good ?
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Thanks for looking in and your comments Digger. The krycell stuff is very good I have used it before in a winter mute dio I did (see my finished builds). There starter set is a good way to start and the website has tutorials and they do some nice sheets that can be broken up to resemble broken ice in a small streamriver after a vehicle has assed through it.
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:57 am
by Tomcat64
This looks great - will be watching with interest how you bring it all together.
Us Brits and our Roman Numerals eh?
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:50 am
by digger303
Hawkmoon wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:37 am
digger303 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:09 am
Wow very nice upgrades, this is going to look spick when you have finished. I haven't seen that snow system before . Is it good ?
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Thanks for looking in and your comments Digger. The krycell stuff is very good I have used it before in a winter mute dio I did (see my finished builds). There starter set is a good way to start and the website has tutorials and they do some nice sheets that can be broken up to resemble broken ice in a small streamriver after a vehicle has assed through it.
I shall put that in my too buy list..thanks
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:13 pm
by Donkeywalloper
Monsterous

amounts of upgrades and additions there.

out and sat on comfiest sofa awaiting this spiffing Dio
DW
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:06 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Looking forward to seeing this one come together

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:19 am
by Hawkmoon

Thanks for looking in and your comments Kev

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achiles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:47 pm
by Hawkmoon

We start with the internals, the kit provides the seats,radios,instrument panel, transmission and transfer boxes but no steering controls or emergency hatch. The etch set has rectified this and then the front area where the driver/radio man sits was painted white the exposed rear open turret area was then painted green base.
The weathering has been started but not finished still a bit to do here. More soon.
Andy
P9184473 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9184476 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9184478 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9184480 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9184481 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:18 am
by Donkeywalloper
Loving it, very subtle weathering, spot on.
DW
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:34 am
by digger303
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:21 pm
by Kevthemodeller
You're off to a good start

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:08 am
by Hawkmoon
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:59 pm
by Hawkmoon

The internal weathering is finished now all there is to add are the shells the kit only supplies enough to fit out the turret and the ones provided in the resin set are the US type. A.F.V do a brass shell set for this kit that should provide enough to fill the racks above the wheels so im waiting for them to arrive from the far east so the build is sorta on hold till they arrive but I can get on with other things on the dio.
The lower body also has had various components fitted along with the main wheels. The upper body of the tank has had various parts attached and is now at the painting stage. The turret and main gun assemblies are complete and ready for some paint.
Made a start on the baggage set and have removed all the casting blocks and is now ready for paint.
P9224485 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9224486 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9224486 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9224489 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9224501 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Andy

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:02 am
by CygnusX1
I must have missed this one somehow...
Looks like it's coming along great; very nice and subtle weathering on that interior.
This is really nice looking build and you don't look too far away from paint.
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:25 am
by digger303
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:04 pm
by Hawkmoon
CygnusX1 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:02 am
I must have missed this one somehow...
Looks like it's coming along great; very nice and subtle weathering on that interior.
This is really nice looking build and you don't look too far away from paint.

Thanks for looking in and your comments Cygnus. Once the shell racks are full [ There on the way probably on the Mongolian snail mail or economy economy mail] the top will be buttoned up and then the paint fest begins.

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:14 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:31 am
by digger303
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:08 pm
by Tomcat64
Wow - really great progress since the last time I had chance to check in!
The interior looks superb.

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:23 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:12 pm
by Hawkmoon

The shell set arrived very quickly from Taiwan in only 6 days so the inside can now get finished off and the top buttoned down.
P9274502 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9274506 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
P9274505 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:39 pm
by CygnusX1
Nice set of shells; must have cost some to come from Taiwan. Where are you buying from?
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:46 pm
by Hawkmoon

Hi Cygnus
Thanks for looking in and your comments.
The shell set was on flea-bay at £14.58 including postage [ I know the postage is hidden in the price] and is a genuine AFC Club part so I didnt do too bad.
I have also found model shops in Taiwan that have some great prices but they only sell locally and dont export anything.
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:01 pm
by Hawkmoon

Shells painted and fitted into the racks with the etch straps [ 6 saved for the turret racks]. You can also now see why I did not remove the ejector pin marks as I knew the shells/cases would hide them. The upper deck was masked off then glued to the lower hull ready for undercoat and paint.
PA034597 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA034601 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:10 pm
by alextheblue
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 12:32 am
by Hawkmoon
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:49 pm
by Hawkmoon

The hull and turret were first undercoated in MIG one shot black primer and when dry MIG olive drab base was sprayed on the parts. Started to prep the workable tracks.
PA054602 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA054606 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:02 pm
by Hawkmoon

Tracks were undercoated then painted steel for the pins/horns and rubber black for the pads. The track set works by glueing an upper and lower pad together with the pins captured by the pads then the horns are added.
I tried the finished track on the Achilles to see how they look and there much better than I thought [ just need to add 3 more pads to complete the track ], they take time to assemble but the results speak for them selves.
Painted sprues
PA064609 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Assembly
PA064611 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Adding the horns
PA064613 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
One track completed
PA064616 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Test need 3 more pads to complete the track.
PA064617 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Second track still to do
PA064619 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:12 am
by Kevthemodeller
Very interesting, painting the tracks before assembly
The build is really coming together, some lovely internal weathering and detailing

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:27 am
by Hawkmoon

Hi Kev
The T51 type track was really thick rubber pads joined together with metal rod's and the drive wheel horns attached to the metal rods. The horns also overhang the pads on the inside making it hard to pain't properly after assembly. Also the pads are glued together along a central Groove so the tracks stay fully operational.
Thanks for looking in and your comments
Andy

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:15 pm
by Quax
Hi Andy, its come together very nicely and I have of course been stealing as much as possible for my M10.

Your tracks will however far out do my Tamiya offerings
cheers
Paul
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:02 pm
by Hawkmoon
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:43 pm
by Hawkmoon

Tracks are done, the spare pads and teeth in the picture are to join each track when fitted on the tank. Bronco are quite generous with there sprues as I have one complete set of each left although the carpet monster did not get to feast on any parts this time round.
PA084622 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA084624 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA084625 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:48 pm
by Hawkmoon

Decals added front and rear, tools made painted and fitted, 50 cal assembled/painted, exhaust made up crusted up/painted and the recovery hawser made up painted and fitted.
Started to apply the winter wash camo, im using Precision Ice and Snow winter camo paint for this.
PA104631 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA104632 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA104634 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA104635 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
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andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA104649 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:15 am
by rcfanuk
Great job mate, very tempted to get this kit so have picked up the AG book on the M10/ Achilles
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:10 pm
by Hawkmoon

Thanks for looking in and your comments rcfan its a nice kit that goes together well the only down side is no driver controls but the etch set takes care of that

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:43 pm
by CygnusX1
Definitely looking good - from your initial post though, it looks like you've still got a way to go yet though.
How long did it take for those Bronco tracks to make? It looks like a lot of parts for one track link...
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:59 pm
by Hawkmoon
CygnusX1 wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:43 pm
Definitely looking good - from your initial post though, it looks like you've still got a way to go yet though.
How long did it take for those Bronco tracks to make? It looks like a lot of parts for one track link...
Thanks for looking in and your comments Cygnus the tracks well the first set I did took around 4 hours but as you assemble them you get faster as you get into the swing of things and the last one took a lot less time. Quite pleased with them as they do look good.
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:01 pm
by Hawkmoon

Two coats of the whitewash have gone on now the dirtying up can start after a clean up on the rubber wheel parts
PA154774 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
PA154777 by
andrew purchase, on Flickr
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:07 am
by Donkeywalloper
Lovely, lovely job on this Hawkmoon.
DW
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:15 pm
by Hawkmoon
Donkeywalloper wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:07 am
Lovely, lovely job on this Hawkmoon.
DW

Thanks for looking in and your comments

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:42 am
by Tomcat64
Great work with this one mate it's come along really nicely since the last time I properly had chance to check in.
Like the whitewash effect and good work on those tracks - I always seem to get bogged down at that stage!
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:17 pm
by Hawkmoon

Thanks for looking in and your comments Tomcat

Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:44 pm
by digger303
Re: A.F.V Club Mk.11c 'Achilles' winter dio.
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:02 pm
by Hawkmoon