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Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:23 am
by KalebB
Chose this as my next build.
Tamiya T-34/76 1943 prod
I am thinking of doing winter wash camo on her, I've never attempted it so I think this will continue to push my skills!
So far this is how far I have gotten with her.
Gone smoothly as you can expect from a Tamiya Kit.
Thanks for looking in cheers
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:57 am
by Gary30
It's a T-34, what's not to like! I've also got a 34/76 in my stash, so I'm watching with interest how you get on with this. Winter camo is a great idea, and something I want to try in the future too, good luck
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:08 am
by Stokesy44
Going together as fast as the real thing did.
Those older Tamiya kits don't age like some brands. They may lack a bit of detail compared to the newer moulds but it shows how far ahead of the competition Tamiya was.
I bought their old Panther and Stug IV some years ago and they were great. I've just picked up their older Tiger II, it looks great and just needs PE grills to pimp it out. Bargain!
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:21 pm
by KalebB
Gary30 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:57 am
It's a T-34, what's not to like! I've also got a 34/76 in my stash, so I'm watching with interest how you get on with this. Winter camo is a great idea, and something I want to try in the future too, good luck
Thank ya for looking in sir.
Yeah Tamiya kits practically fall together!!
This particular model of T-34 is my favorite tank. The Mickey mouse, so called for the twin hatches when they stood up
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:22 pm
by KalebB
Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:08 am
Going together as fast as the real thing did.
Those older Tamiya kits don't age like some brands. They may lack a bit of detail compared to the newer moulds but it shows how far ahead of the competition Tamiya was.
I bought their old Panther and Stug IV some years ago and they were great. I've just picked up their older Tiger II, it looks great and just needs PE grills to pimp it out. Bargain!
I was impressed with some of the details on it to be honest.
The pre dented fuel tanks and nice casting texture on the turret was pleasent to see.
Thanks for looking in bud
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:56 am
by KalebB
I also just noticed I flip flopped the production date on the thread title
How did I manage that
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:20 am
by Gary30
KalebB wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:56 am
I also just noticed I flip flopped the production date on the thread title
How did I manage that
'34 would be an EARLY one!
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:57 am
by Stokesy44
I would think the tanks they had in 1934 had 4 legs, drank hay and pooped in the streets!
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:10 pm
by KalebB
Hell with tanks like the T-35 and T-28 being built around that time, they would have been better off with horses to be honest haha
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:16 am
by KalebB
The fuel Tanks have been fitted as well as bits of stowage cleaned up and ready to be mounted after painting.
I do enjoy how the fuel tanks have been Pre-dented. I think it adds a nice bit of realism.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:42 am
by Stokesy44
Interesting stuff about those dented tanks. I built the Cyber Hobby SU 85M Tank Destroyer a while back and that had dented tanks too.
I do find it interesting that even up to modern day the Russians still mount similar tanks like this. Its such a low-tech approach but I guess it works when looking at the old quality / quantity question.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:17 am
by digger303
Can see the age of the kit though. Don't get me wrong the details are very sharp, but you look at the fuel tanks and the dents look very even and consistent.
Can't wait to see you jazz this up.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:10 am
by Tomcat64
Love the way this has come together so quickly - I'm pretty sure I've got one of these lurking in the stash so might crack it out next year and take a swipe at it.
Looking forward to seeing you move this along
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:35 pm
by KalebB
Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:42 am
Interesting stuff about those dented tanks. I built the Cyber Hobby SU 85M Tank Destroyer a while back and that had dented tanks too.
I do find it interesting that even up to modern day the Russians still mount similar tanks like this. Its such a low-tech approach but I guess it works when looking at the old quality / quantity question.
Well I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it right?
I'm sure those fuel tanks are about the easiest to repair/replace compared to other nations armored vehicles
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:10 pm
by digger303
KalebB wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:35 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:42 am
Interesting stuff about those dented tanks. I built the Cyber Hobby SU 85M Tank Destroyer a while back and that had dented tanks too.
I do find it interesting that even up to modern day the Russians still mount similar tanks like this. Its such a low-tech approach but I guess it works when looking at the old quality / quantity question.
Well I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it right?
I'm sure those fuel tanks are about the easiest to repair/replace compared to other nations armored vehicles
I see those fuel tanks and have always thought they would be always getting holed and a potential fire hazard. With fuel entering the engine compartment if a shell hit the tanks or even stray machine gun bullets. But I must be wrong cause I haven't seen any pic showing that.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:45 am
by KalebB
digger303 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:10 pm
KalebB wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:35 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:42 am
Interesting stuff about those dented tanks. I built the Cyber Hobby SU 85M Tank Destroyer a while back and that had dented tanks too.
I do find it interesting that even up to modern day the Russians still mount similar tanks like this. Its such a low-tech approach but I guess it works when looking at the old quality / quantity question.
Well I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it right?
I'm sure those fuel tanks are about the easiest to repair/replace compared to other nations armored vehicles
I see those fuel tanks and have always thought they would be always getting holed and a potential fire hazard. With fuel entering the engine compartment if a shell hit the tanks or even stray machine gun bullets. But I must be wrong cause I haven't seen any pic showing that.
I have no doubt that has prolly occurred at least a few times. Chances are there just weren't any war time photos taken of it. I could definitely see it being an issue
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:16 am
by Gary30
I always thought they were just additional fuel tanks, I think they still had the main fuel tank(s) inboard
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:18 am
by digger303
Gary30 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:16 am
I always thought they were just additional fuel tanks, I think they still had the main fuel tank(s) inboard
yes they did, not sure if they drained the out board ones first though or they had to use enough fuel then drain it into the main tank.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:46 am
by Quax
Looks good so far Kaleb
Paul
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:43 am
by Kevthemodeller
Stokesy44 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:08 am
Those older Tamiya kits don't age like some brands. They may lack a bit of detail compared to the newer moulds but it shows how far ahead of the competition Tamiya was.
I built this kit back in the day, it was one of my favourite kits,
It's all going together very nicely
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:37 am
by KalebB
UPDATE
Have now laid down the primer on the ole girl. I used MiG of Jimenez One Shot Gray primer.
First time using this and it laid down beautifully in my opinion
Thanks for looking in! Next step will be some pre-shading with black Vallejo model Air and then the first coat of Vallejo Russian Green
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:38 am
by digger303
KalebB wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:37 am
UPDATE
Have now laid down the primer on the ole girl. I used MiG of Jimenez One Shot Gray primer.
First time using this and it laid down beautifully in my opinion
Thanks for looking in! Next step will be some pre-shading with black Vallejo model Air and then the first coat of Vallejo Russian Green
Hah ... saw the first pic read the blurb and thought that's a different looking spray can, what have they done here ?
yes that primer coat is spot on.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:45 am
by KalebB
digger303 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:38 am
KalebB wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:37 am
UPDATE
Have now laid down the primer on the ole girl. I used MiG of Jimenez One Shot Gray primer.
First time using this and it laid down beautifully in my opinion
Thanks for looking in! Next step will be some pre-shading with black Vallejo model Air and then the first coat of Vallejo Russian Green
Hah ... saw the first pic read the blurb and thought that's a different looking spray can, what have they done here ?
yes that primer coat is spot on.
When you look at it quick it almost looks like a green WD40 can now that I look at it
Thanks for looking Digger
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:17 am
by Hawkmoon
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:46 am
by KalebB
I planned to do that on the panels that wouldn't be bathed in sunlight. Sort of a pre shade kind of thing. I don't know the proper term for it
Thanks for looking in Hawk
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:37 am
by Stokesy44
That primer has gone down smoooooooooth!
Love that stuff, I feel my skills grow exponentially when I prime - then I fall to earth again with the base coat
But that is looking really nice Sir
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:56 pm
by KalebB
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:37 am
That primer has gone down smoooooooooth!
Love that stuff, I feel my skills grow exponentially when I prime - then I fall to earth again with the base coat
But that is looking really nice Sir
I was quite impressed with how smoothly it sprayed. Normally I muck it up somehow
Thanks for checking the build out
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:58 am
by KalebB
Black pre shading and first coat of Vallejo Model Russian Green has been sprayed on.
Next will be painting stowage bits to get ready for mounting after the winter white wash has been applied. Still trying to figure out whitch technique I want to do for that. Never attempted it before.
Thanks for looking in.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:18 am
by Stokesy44
That colour has gone down nicely.
What sort of look will you be going for? Weathered warrior or battle battered beast?
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:57 pm
by KalebB
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:18 am
That colour has gone down nicely.
What sort of look will you be going for? Weathered warrior or battle battered beast?
Nothing too spectacular. It will definitely be a bit grimey, a bit of mud effects and dust pigments applied as well as a few washes. Just got some Mig washes in the mail and want to try them out
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:13 pm
by Tomcat64
That's a really good looking couple of coats you've got on that
Didn't know you could use Mountain Dew as a primer though, thought it was more of a paint stripper
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:00 pm
by KalebB
Tomcat64 wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:13 pm
That's a really good looking couple of coats you've got on that
Didn't know you could use Mountain Dew as a primer though, thought it was more of a paint stripper
Well I figured hell, if Mtn dew can coat my kidneys in bad stuff, maybe it'll make a tough primer coat
In all seriousness a 12oz can makes a surprisingly good turret holder
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:11 pm
by KalebB
In yours guys opinion, should I do some light chipping and weathering on the paint before or after the white wash, my line of thinking is a lot of it would just be covered up by the white paint and then just chip the exposed paint after flaking off the white coat. However I figured I would defer to the more experienced builders on here.
Cheers
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:31 pm
by Tat2bhoy
KalebB wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:11 pm
In yours guys opinion, should I do some light chipping and weathering on the paint before or after the white wash, my line of thinking is a lot of it would just be covered up by the white paint and then just chip the exposed paint after flaking off the white coat. However I figured I would defer to the more experienced builders on here.
Cheers
You could do the green chipping before the whitewash but there is a good chance some or all of it would be covered, what you could do is, do the whitewash and then on the visible green areas, do the chipping then, hope that makes sense
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:10 pm
by KalebB
Tat2bhoy wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:31 pm
KalebB wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:11 pm
In yours guys opinion, should I do some light chipping and weathering on the paint before or after the white wash, my line of thinking is a lot of it would just be covered up by the white paint and then just chip the exposed paint after flaking off the white coat. However I figured I would defer to the more experienced builders on here.
Cheers
You could do the green chipping before the whitewash but there is a good chance some or all of it would be covered, what you could do is, do the whitewash and then on the visible green areas, do the chipping then, hope that makes sense
Yes it does, I'm seeing what you're saying. Thank you, build is post poned for now until I can order some actual good matte varnish but then I'll be getting stuck back in to this one
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:09 pm
by Tomcat64
I guess it depends on what you want to depict... if the tank rolled off the production line in bleak midwinter then it was probably whitewashed before seeing any action so any damage, scuffs & scrapes would be through that top surface.
On the other hand if you want to show a vehicle that'd been in a couple of scrapes and then got whitewashed later on then you could layer it by applying some before the whitewash and then some more after. As Tat2bhoy said you will lose some of the initial work by doing it this way but if you have a look at actual vehicles (farm tractors?) it's all layers of wear & crud built up, and some of the wear will be under some of the crud.
Hope that makes some kind of sense
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:24 pm
by KalebB
Tomcat64 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:09 pm
I guess it depends on what you want to depict... if the tank rolled off the production line in bleak midwinter then it was probably whitewashed before seeing any action so any damage, scuffs & scrapes would be through that top surface.
On the other hand if you want to show a vehicle that'd been in a couple of scrapes and then got whitewashed later on then you could layer it by applying some before the whitewash and then some more after. As Tat2bhoy said you will lose some of the initial work by doing it this way but if you have a look at actual vehicles (farm tractors?) it's all layers of wear & crud built up, and some of the wear will be under some of the crud.
Hope that makes some kind of sense
It absolutely makes sense. I can see what you're saying about the tractor thing as I'm around them a lot. The paint does build up and re crack after getting rattle canned so many times. And being out in the elements
I may do a fairly new manufactured tank however. Sort of a fresh built machine right before the battle of Kursk so major wear would be minimal.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:25 am
by KalebB
Finally got the courage to attempt the winter wash camo.
Went better than I thought and I'm satisfied with it.
Just happy I didn't completely mess it up
Thanks for looking in.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:14 am
by digger303
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:20 am
by KalebB
Thank you buddy, I'm just glad it went as well as it did. I haven't worked on it in almost a week Because I was nervous of doing it
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:28 am
by Hawkmoon
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:53 am
by KalebB
Thank you bud! I was nervous of messing it up entirely
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:35 am
by Stokesy44
Now that is looking nice.
Details, details please. What products and methods did you use? And what's the plan going forward?
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:04 am
by KalebB
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:35 am
Now that is looking nice.
Details, details please. What products and methods did you use? And what's the plan going forward?
Thank you for your compliment bud. I apologise, I will be sure to include more details with my next post on the kit and the build.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:16 am
by Stokesy44
KalebB wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:04 am
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:35 am
Now that is looking nice.
Details, details please. What products and methods did you use? And what's the plan going forward?
Thank you for your compliment bud. I apologise, I will be sure to include more details with my next post on the kit and the build.
I'm just fascinated by the process. Having found a way I like I'm always interested in the processes and results of others. I think I'm still in that mode where I'm trying to embrace just what products are out there.
I can still remember a shoebox full of little enamel tins. No primer, washes were done with spirit added to black enamel and wiped off before they dried. I think I only ever varnished a kit once and that was with a brush! Five years back into the hobby and I've got all these new toys to play with and I'm barely scratching surface.
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:41 am
by KalebB
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:16 am
KalebB wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:04 am
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:35 am
Now that is looking nice.
Details, details please. What products and methods did you use? And what's the plan going forward?
Thank you for your compliment bud. I apologise, I will be sure to include more details with my next post on the kit and the build.
I'm just fascinated by the process. Having found a way I like I'm always interested in the processes and results of others. I think I'm still in that mode where I'm trying to embrace just what products are out there.
I can still remember a shoebox full of little enamel tins. No primer, washes were done with spirit added to black enamel and wiped off before they dried. I think I only ever varnished a kit once and that was with a brush! Five years back into the hobby and I've got all these new toys to play with and I'm barely scratching surface.
I understand where you're coming from.
I only modelled for a bout a year when I had to quit to focus on school and my job.
Now coming back to it 4 years later, there's so much I haven't learned
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:09 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Oh yes
it's all really coming together, the primer, top colour when on a treat, winter cammo too
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:28 pm
by Tomcat64
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:23 pm
by Kingdan
Nicely done just remember to try and think where would the men be going on the tank surface ie the engine deck and how they are climbing over it to get in those sort of areas will get the most worn so you could go heavy on the chipping on those spots and always remember that they did a lot of painting in the field so would re-apply the winter white over worn out places that would give you some tonal variety to the overall look
Re: Tamiya T-34/76 1934 prod build
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:48 pm
by KalebB
Thank ya sir
You did a good job there and nicely done 