The Black Pearl... a slow build log

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:00 pm

Diving into this big box now

1/72 scale Zvezda kit
Detail looks pretty good

3D printed some figures out as well

Here is the base started out

So with that intricate detail, do I base paint it and then dry brush the raised details????

Post by **Garion77** » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:20 pm

On my side I would paint it like varnish wood... you know like wooden propellers of WW I planes. But if the details of the base are anything like the ship itself it should be nice !!

Post by **RangerNeil** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 am

Any more progress on this one? Or did I miss something elsewhere??

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:54 pm

RangerNeil wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 am Any more progress on this one? Or did I miss something elsewhere??

not until the weekend mate...some people work

Post by **Stokesy44** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:53 pm

The real question is will you follow the instructions or view them merely as "Guidelines"?

I crack myself up

Post by **barryf1fan** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:10 pm

This will be good.

One of my fav movie series'. Can't wait for some progress pics!

Post by **RangerNeil** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:02 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:54 pm
RangerNeil wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 am Any more progress on this one? Or did I miss something elsewhere??
not until the weekend mate...some people work

Oh gawd - my goof!!! Apologies, for some reason I read the date on your Sept 20th post as 2020!!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:37 am

Base is painted and gilded gold with Pearl white letters

Post by **digger303** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 am

Paint work looks almost printed on....very steady work my friend.

Post by **BigWall** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:29 am

That looks very sharp! Nice job!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:15 pm

digger303 wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 am Paint work looks almost printed on....very steady work my friend.

One more coat and I will get the Pearl white more even...it is latex and not oil unfortunately

Post by **BigWall** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:27 pm

Interesting! What brand of paint is latex? I know house paint is obviously, but you're the first one I've ever seen use latex paint on a model.

Post by **RangerNeil** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:30 pm

Love the stand - excellent work!!!!

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:51 am

Making 32 cannons

This is why the Captains have the thousand mile stare

Post by **digger303** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:32 am

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:51 am Making 32 cannons

This is why the Captains have the thousand mile stare

AND you worry about a few wheels on armor

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:28 am

First set of eight cannons put together
Ultimate black primer, bunt umber and black oil layers for wood bits. Cannons are dark iron Mr Metal Color

This is nice as it give a deep chocolate brown woodwork look and changes the black scheme a bit

Post by **digger303** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:07 am

The brass/bronze color on the cannons look very nice.

Post by **Stokesy44** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:39 am

I was going to say you had peaked too early with the stand but I was wrong.

Those cannons look superb. Great wood and iron effects. They look scaleless and that's a real art my friend

Post by **Garion77** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:14 am

The stand looks amazing with the paint ! that is a damn good start. And the cannon... oh my god the quantities of pieces in the kit... that's going to be a big and long project I think !
I stumble on this this morning....

Thought you might like it even if it's a wooden ship. I love wooden ships kits. I have 2 that I started a few years ago and put aside...

And I don't know if you saw in my Tony's building thread...but my girlfriend made me the best Christmas gift ever (in advance)... a beautiful puppy. A golden retriever that we named Maïka. She first tried to get a new Bernese mountain dog but almost everywhere the wait was around 2/3 years. And realized that may be it would be better an another race as it would may be replace to much Cléo and make a comparison. Good thing she chose an another race because it would have been the case.

Take care and stay safe. Can't wait to see the progression on this project.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:07 am

8 sets of cannons done over three evenings after dinner and chores gets all 32 cannons assembled
Still have detail and touch up painting to do on these two dozen

Post by **digger303** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:38 am

That's going to be a heavy broadside....Black powder to the gun deck

Post by **Tomcat64** » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:15 pm

Awesome work on the stand & canons mate - the canons look genuinely heavy

Looking forward to seeing the ship itself come together

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:29 pm

BigWall wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:27 pm Interesting! What brand of paint is latex? I know house paint is obviously, but you're the first one I've ever seen use latex paint on a model.

Whoops acrylic i meant….it is an artist brand, will get a pic of the tube

Post by **BigWall** » Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:10 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:29 pm
BigWall wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:27 pm Interesting! What brand of paint is latex? I know house paint is obviously, but you're the first one I've ever seen use latex paint on a model.
Whoops acrylic i meant….it is an artist brand, will get a pic of the tube

Ahhh! I've got it. I have artist acrylics in tubes as well.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:26 am

So a bit done on the Pearl

Got the hull glued together and the decks cut out and test fitted

I decided to make a soft jig for the base so I didn’t ruin the paintwork on the kit one. Just some foam cardboard and glue.
All 32 cannons are finished and painted. Have to put them away so they don’t get ruined

Post by **Garion77** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:20 am

lovely picture in the back !

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:41 pm

Garion77 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:20 am lovely picture in the back !

Yes, one of my Coco pup shrines
Piper is getting better with me, but Coco was MY girl

Post by **Garion77** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pm

oooh so beautiful ! thank you for sharing ! I understand how can still miss her !

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:13 pm

So some slight mods to the support. Now I have added a bit of plywood that lets me hold the base easier and is more solid
Black Stylenrez primer added to decking

Post by **Stokesy44** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:24 pm

Lovely work. The Pearl is looking smart and the Coco pics are lovely

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:41 pm

Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:24 pm Lovely work. The Pearl is looking smart and the Coco pics are lovely

Thank you David
Hope you had a lovely weekend

Post by **RangerNeil** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:53 pm

Pearl is coming on nicely - I'm looking forward to seeing the finished (and rigged) item.

FWIW - our dogs never truly leave us - a part remains always. Ascribe to it what you will - it just is that way.

Post by **digger303** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:45 am

Hull comes together quick and really seems like the finish is close. Of course I know that isn't right and there is a myriad of things still to do. Interested to see what you do with the rigging.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:29 am

Testing out my decking paint
The overall base is Stylenrez flat black.
The little section on the right has the following
1. Burnt umber oil, wiped
2. Black oil, light wiped
3. AK Burnt Jet Engine pigments rubbed into oils while still wet with a Q tip

It drops off the oil sheen and gives an uneven rough mat black look I am after with just a hint of brown wood underneath
My worry is the pigments will rub away too much to the touch

Letting it dry up and see. Then plan a light grey dry brush to hit the highlights of the planks

Post by **DRUMS01** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:27 am

Neat build Scott... I saw your comment on my Yamato build so I had to come over and take a look. I have the old Revell Constitution and United states along with the Heller Victory for rigged ships but I'm not sure when I will ever start any of them (it's a rigging thing)....

Like those cannons....

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:59 am

DRUMS01 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:27 am Neat build Scott... I saw your comment on my Yamato build so I had to come over and take a look. I have the old Revell Constitution and United states along with the Heller Victory for rigged ships but I'm not sure when I will ever start any of them (it's a rigging thing)....

Like those cannons....

Cheers mate, she is getting a bit more fun
I was reading about a full on scratch build, really nicely done

Post by **digger303** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am

Very nicely done. I was trying to get a better look at the way the rope ends were dealt with, but unfortunately not. At this distance they look very real.

Post by **DBMiller** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm

Rigged ships are so far beyond my comfort zone! I admire your dedication.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:04 pm

DBMiller wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm Rigged ships are so far beyond my comfort zone! I admire your dedication.

you mean my stupidity

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:24 pm

digger303 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am Very nicely done. I was trying to get a better look at the way the rope ends were dealt with, but unfortunately not. At this distance they look very real.

this was the forum the pic is from. The guy does a full on amazing scratch build from wood, carved bits and all

Not a bad read for a rainy day
https://www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_p ... .php?31041

Post by **DBMiller** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:45 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:04 pm
DBMiller wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm Rigged ships are so far beyond my comfort zone! I admire your dedication.
you mean my stupidity

Well no...uh, no. Really.

Post by **Garion77** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am

ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's

ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:11 pm

Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them

Oh yeah amazing hobby scratch building like that.
There are a few wooden ship building sites online...good rabbit hole to fall into
I have wooden kits for the Blue Nose I and II which are very Canadian ships found on our dime. One day I will get to those

Post by **Garion77** » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm

Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:11 pm
Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them
Oh yeah amazing hobby scratch building like that.
There are a few wooden ship building sites online...good rabbit hole to fall into
I have wooden kits for the Blue Nose I and II which are very Canadian ships found on our dime. One day I will get to those

A big rabbit hole !! And the tools aren't the same ! The space needed to build them too...The bluenose is one of the two I have. The other one, a better kit, is a Swift if I remember right. This is the one I done the most work, which isn't that much. And really not a good job on it. Getting back to it I think I would have to start over and scratch build the wood pieces that I've used.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:32 am

Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:11 pm
Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them
Oh yeah amazing hobby scratch building like that.
There are a few wooden ship building sites online...good rabbit hole to fall into
I have wooden kits for the Blue Nose I and II which are very Canadian ships found on our dime. One day I will get to those
A big rabbit hole !! And the tools aren't the same ! The space needed to build them too...The bluenose is one of the two I have. The other one, a better kit, is a Swift if I remember right. This is the one I done the most work, which isn't that much. And really not a good job on it. Getting back to it I think I would have to start over and scratch build the wood pieces that I've used.

I have other workshop(s) for woodwork and leatherwork so the ship building could go there
I would really love to do it...might just have to

Post by **BigWall** » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:00 am

Scratch building is way beyond my patience level for sure.

Your deck looks great Scott. I would think the oils would bond the pigments down but I guess time will tell.

Post by **Twokidsnosleep** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:23 am

BigWall wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:00 am Scratch building is way beyond my patience level for sure.

Your deck looks great Scott. I would think the oils would bond the pigments down but I guess time will tell.

Yes it seems to hold on ok
Lost a bit of mojo waiting for my deck paint oils to dry out
Got to push myself to keep moving on this project

Post by **RangerNeil** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:51 pm

It will be worth the push once you (and we!) see the finished Pearl.

Post by **Stokesy44** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:40 pm

RangerNeil wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:51 pm It will be worth the push once you (and we!) see the finished Pearl.

Yargh, tis true!

Post by **digger303** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:04 am

Yes as the others said you will be pleased with the result once finished.