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Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:00 pm
by robwuk
OK, so have, in the past built Panzers i-IV so now for a V. Decided on the RFM Panther Ausf F as I wanted to use the night vision on a what-if Super Pershing at some point. Not 100% certain how this will  end up. It WILL be what-if paint (like the amusing hobby Jagdpanther II scheme (dunkelgelb with white angled stripes) but may do some of it in factory undercoat with white markings. I will also look at additional armour (a least the usual panther stuff on the wheels, maybe also anti air screens and possibly even on the turret.....



so this will be the first of 2 (the Super Pershing will be the second) 1946/7 what if where Allies + Germany were facing the unstoppable USSR who continued to fight at the end of the war....



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so far the 2 sides done



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:55 am
by Tomcat64
It's a Panther so count me in whatever colours it ends up being painted.

Looking forward to seeing what you do with this Rob :pop:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:28 am
by robwuk
doesnt have an interior but suspension is well rendered.....



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:47 pm
by ForeverPlasticKits
An almost "what-if" panzer, but the kit seems to be very good! :thumb1: :thumb2:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:46 am
by robwuk
so this is how the mock up cast steel looks in red oxide (Vallejo primer, need to find an alternative as that has just run out, time to raid MiG AMMO again)

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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:58 am
by digger303
I like the cast texture and the colour. Pin marks ?

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:38 pm
by Tomcat64
The cast steel looks great - I just picked up a bottle of AK Interactive Red Oxide primer but haven't had chance to use it as yet but may be worth a look?

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:13 am
by robwuk
digger303 wrote: Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:58 am I like the cast texture and the colour. Pin marks ?
yeah this is just a test piece - RFM Panther kit comes with a sprue from the Jagdpanzer kit which includes interior plate (the front plate is 2 layers of plastic it seems).... so on its parent kit this is glued to more plastic and so pin marks never seen

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:40 pm
by robwuk
after a number of discussions, I decided that only "odd shaped" parts were cast... so these have been coated in Mr Surfacer 500. Hull is just placed on for now....



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 10:47 am
by robwuk
a fair chunk of progress... the major components on the hull and turret are now done and I have one run of tracks done (they are workable). As you know, I love adding just a little extra so have done some mesh screens (turret and main engine deck vent)... think they work OK...



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:29 pm
by BigWall
Nice additions, it's looking great!

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 2:03 pm
by Tomcat64
Nice work, Rob.

What did you use for the mesh screens?

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:13 am
by digger303
Mesh screens worked well, just need some bolt heads and large washers to finish them off.
Looking forward to the next update.
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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pm
by Donkeywalloper
:bow:: :bow:: :bow:: :bow:: :bow:: :bow::
DW

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:33 am
by robwuk
build finished..... added an extra set of spare tracks on the turret.... still not 100% decided on a paint scheme... might be "giraffe" style dunkelgelb and green (or brown) hull and then red oxide turret....



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:44 am
by Stokesy44
Nice and tidy so far. Going to be an interesting looking beast as you progress :clap:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:28 am
by digger303
Very clean...nice build.
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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:30 pm
by robwuk
its all gone black.... hope to get Dunkelgelb and red oxide on tomorrow.... think the hull will have dunkelgelb stripes and faded green patches....



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:18 am
by digger303
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 3:49 pm
by robwuk
Basic paint on -



Dunkelgelb with mottled lighter shades for the hull (still need to work on the camo scheme, just faded green I think)

red oxide primer and one mottled shade for the hull (also have one wheel and one rear stowage bin like this)

ash grey and one shade mottle for barrel



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:33 am
by robwuk
started the masking.... going for "camel" with green (not sure on what green still, thats this mornings job)



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:30 am
by Tomcat64
Nice work as ever - what did you use for the red oxide in the end?

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:13 am
by robwuk
it was valejo red oxide primer... and then added some white to give a bit of fade (it was an old bottle, need something new in the MiG Ammo range

and of course course I meant giraffe not camel !!!!!!!

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:46 pm
by robwuk
its gone green.... really pleased with that (less so with how I tried to add parts from other tanks (ie engine deck and one harth).. oh well, can weather them differently



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:42 am
by robwuk
turret has had pin wash and matt varnish to allow me to do the factory markings. spare tracks done - just placed on turret to give me an idea on how good/bad they look



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:29 am
by digger303
Not bad at all :th: :th: :th: :th:
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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:53 am
by aur0ra145
Looking pretty good! :cheers2:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:05 pm
by robwuk
thanks... skirt rails added, should be able to to do pin wash tomorrow....



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:21 pm
by robwuk
pin wash and matt varnish on.... they one is racing towards the finish, not sure how weathered it will be yet...



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Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:57 pm
by Stokesy44
Beautiful work. Its a cracking scheme and so full of history. :clap: :clap:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:11 pm
by robwuk
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:57 pm Beautiful work. Its a cracking scheme and so full of history. :clap: :clap:
thanks... yes I an very pleased, have an idea for yet more what-if german camo (dunkelgrau/dunkelgelb hard edge straight pattern) for a what-if geshutzwagen (probably next year tho)

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:32 pm
by Stokesy44
robwuk wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:11 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:57 pm Beautiful work. Its a cracking scheme and so full of history. :clap: :clap:
thanks... yes I an very pleased, have an idea for yet more what-if german camo (dunkelgrau/dunkelgelb hard edge straight pattern) for a what-if geshutzwagen (probably next year tho)
How about hard edged stripes based on red oxide primer and dungelgelb? Makes sense from a paint scarcity viewpoint? I have a Flakpanzer IV in the stash and that has an oxide / dunkelgelb scheme.

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:47 pm
by digger303
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:53 pm
by robwuk
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:32 pm
robwuk wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:11 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:57 pm Beautiful work. Its a cracking scheme and so full of history. :clap: :clap:
thanks... yes I an very pleased, have an idea for yet more what-if german camo (dunkelgrau/dunkelgelb hard edge straight pattern) for a what-if geshutzwagen (probably next year tho)
How about hard edged stripes based on red oxide primer and dungelgelb? Makes sense from a paint scarcity viewpoint? I have a Flakpanzer IV in the stash and that has an oxide / dunkelgelb scheme.
that was one of the options I had for this kit... the geshutz is an earlier war prototype for grey/yellow paint would've been available... tempted by the E-series tanks, maybe an E50 would be good in that colour (or the massive E100)

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:12 pm
by Stokesy44
robwuk wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:53 pm
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:32 pm
robwuk wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:11 pm

thanks... yes I an very pleased, have an idea for yet more what-if german camo (dunkelgrau/dunkelgelb hard edge straight pattern) for a what-if geshutzwagen (probably next year tho)
How about hard edged stripes based on red oxide primer and dungelgelb? Makes sense from a paint scarcity viewpoint? I have a Flakpanzer IV in the stash and that has an oxide / dunkelgelb scheme.
that was one of the options I had for this kit... the geshutz is an earlier war prototype for grey/yellow paint would've been available... tempted by the E-series tanks, maybe an E50 would be good in that colour (or the massive E100)
Good call. Sounds like a plan :th:

Re: Rye Field 1/35 Panther Ausf F - What if 1946/7 scheme

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:22 am
by BigWall
Very nice build! I really like your paintwork on the turret.