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JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 6:48 am
by Stokesy44
Here is Cyberhobby's JS-2M Type 51 Heavy Tank.
Its a Dragon kit by heritage, hence the grey plastic, the magic tracks and the instructions that can sometimes lean on the vague side!

More of that later.
I started off with the suspension arms and immediately ran into trouble. I could see they were level by checking against a straight edge but the kit just would not sit with all arms on a flat surface. Then I realised while the arms were level on either side, neither side were level versus the other. The reason being the hull was warped. It was significantly off-square.
Its a bathtub style hull so the only option was to try and 'encourage' it square.
I commenced Operation BSAI (Brute Strength And Ignorance) and attempted to straighten out the hull without breaking it. I managed to get some movement and worked the sides and bottom as hard as I could, all the while thinking 'please dont break, please dont break'. I got there in the end and the vehicle was now sitting square, or almost square anyway
I then added the running gear and made small adjustments to the suspension arms to ensure the vehicle still sat square with all the main wheels touching ground.
I used the wrong suspension arms in 2 instances but I defy anyone to not make the same mistake given the instructions did a superb job of hiding the fact from me. I spotted the error in time so was able to correct the mistake before the glue fully cured.
Then it was on to the tracks. I decided to build and attach them in full. It will make painting a bit tricky but I've had bad experiences with tracks like these before. I've tried building them in tops and bottoms but they never go together properly when I've done that. I built the flat sections then did the front and rear rise and wrap sections, then connected them with a section covering the 2 middle sections between the return rollers. They have come out ok and any irregularities will be covered by the sponsons and mud guards.
All in all, about 4 hours work so not a bad session given its my first bench time since October

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:09 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:41 pm
by RangerNeil
Looks to be an interesting build!! I always had a soft spot for its successor, the IS-3, with the now (in)famous "frying pan" turret.
Will be following this one closely - shame you had the warped hull as the intro to the kit.....

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:14 pm
by Tomcat64
That thing looks proper hefty already & nice work deskewing the warped hull
I'm always amazed at how wrong, inaccurate or incomplete instructions for a kit can be...
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:05 am
by Stokesy44
RangerNeil wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 2:41 pm
Looks to be an interesting build!! I always had a soft spot for its successor, the IS-3, with the now (in)famous "frying pan" turret.
Will be following this one closely - shame you had the warped hull as the intro to the kit.....
I saw some footage of the IS-3 - what a monster!
Tomcat64 wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2025 5:14 pm
That thing looks proper hefty already & nice work deskewing the warped hull
I'm always amazed at how wrong, inaccurate or incomplete instructions for a kit can be...
It could be argued I should have been more careful but it was almost designed to fool me! I dont tend to buy Dragon as they're too pricey plus all the wasted parts and dodgy instructions but I got this and the Pz IV Flak vehicle cheap at a show.
I had another session on Sunday and got to work on the upper hull and turret.
The Russian engineering is highly visible on the turret. The cast texture is heavy and the weld seams really stand out. It went together easily enough, I had to fenagle the locating points for the gun mount as it was wonky but other than that, all good.
Still a lot of greeblies for the upper hull, rear section is mostly done but I have not touched the front end yet. I test fitted it to the lower hull and its going to need some elbow grease when it comes time to glue it. A probable legacy from the original warping I found with the lower section.
More greeblies to come on the hull and the turret

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:36 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:09 am
by Tomcat64
More great progress mate - hopefully you can sort out that front join with a tactical application of pressure.
The textures on the turret especially look the part - it really does look hefty.
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:34 am
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:24 am
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:51 pm
by RangerNeil
Lovely build so far - will you "winterise" it with a whitewash overlay once painted? Or leave as summer in the standard 4BO?
Not sure either the KV or IS series of tanks were known for "rushing" anywhere, unlike the T34, as they were a tad on the heavy side.....

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:07 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Somewhat late to the party here. Lovely clean build so far, looking forward to the paint

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:31 am
by Stokesy44
Thanks, I hacked off a few mill from the top of the lower hull sides to get the upper to sit down properly then glued the 2 pieces together. Its not perfect but it will do.
RangerNeil wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:51 pm
Lovely build so far - will you "winterise" it with a whitewash overlay once painted? Or leave as summer in the standard 4BO?
Not sure either the KV or IS series of tanks were known for "rushing" anywhere, unlike the T34, as they were a tad on the heavy side.....
Not winterising this one. Going for the basic green but will be careful to not go too dark.
Kevthemodeller wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:07 pm
Somewhat late to the party here. Lovely clean build so far, looking forward to the paint
Thanks Kev. Paint will be a while off for this one until the weather improves and its warm enough to have the window open for the extractor. I'm just building kits at the moment so I will have a stock to work on when the weather improves.
I cleaned up the sprue joints on the handrails and repositioned one of them after I had accidentally 'flattened' it when I was adding the rails and repeatedly handling the turret.
I filled the gaps where the rear halves came 'together', needs a little more filler to finish.
The spare tracks go on the front, not the rear. I have never seen this before but I saw a picture of a similar Russian vehicle with the exact same configuration so I assume its ok
Great shot of that Russian design heritage. Raked front glacis and big wide tracks. A real Dusky Rusky.
Other, than a bit of filler, that's the build done and ready for primer. Time to raid the stash again

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 12:51 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:37 pm
by Tomcat64
Nice work mate - there's something about the way that it sits that just makes it look "heavy"
Great job on tidying up the kit imperfections too
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:05 am
by Kevthemodeller
Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:31 am
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Thanks Kev. Paint will be a while off for this one until the weather improves and its warm enough to have the window open for the extractor. I'm just building kits at the moment so I will have a stock to work on when the weather improves.
Get yourself one of these they work a treat
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394664869384 
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:03 am
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:05 am
Stokesy44 wrote: Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:31 am
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Thanks Kev. Paint will be a while off for this one until the weather improves and its warm enough to have the window open for the extractor. I'm just building kits at the moment so I will have a stock to work on when the weather improves.
Get yourself one of these they work a treat
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/394664869384
Thanks Kev, I shall look into these.
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:46 am
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:30 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:25 pm
by Kevthemodeller
The paint has gone down lovely

looking forward to the shading

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:10 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:44 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:41 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 1:51 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:38 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:04 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:02 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:31 pm
by RangerNeil
Nice job so far!!

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:40 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:47 am
by Stokesy44
Gloss coat on, ready for the dark dirt wash now.
Looking at the kit like this made me think about the whole painting and weathering process. My goal is always two-fold. 1, Get rid of the plastic look of the kit and then 2, weather it specific to a time or circumstance.
I wondered how the kit would look if it only had part 1 done to it. It would be like creating a fully restored static museum piece. Everything would be done to create the depth and texture in the paintwork using the usual methods, primer, base coat with highlight and shadows then oils for variation. At that point the kit would be gloss or satin coated then towed into museum as it were. No chipping, no mud, no rust and no pigments.
I think it would be worth a go because it would really show case how an AFV loses its plastic look and takes on the weight that painted steel has with its rolled or cast texture.
It would have to be the right subject to fit the idea, a rare restoration for static display only. I'll have a think.
Anyway, you didnt come here for my waffle! Shiny Tanky below
Just the dark wash and pigments left now

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:28 am
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:37 pm
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:06 pm
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 9:31 am
by Stokesy44
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:13 am
by digger303
I've had a thought about those diesel fuel tanks and the exhaust. It could be that quality was a issue particularly during the winter months and low quality diesel can have a lot of wax in it. Cold weather can solidify this blocking all the filters, but by heating it this could be dealt with. It seems like the kind of practical solution the Russians might devise.
We had a experience in the district years ago where the refinery in Perth W.A didn't switch over to making winter fuel (wax free) and caused a whole heap of problems. Needless to say the penny pinching executives coped a earful and it never happened again.

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:41 pm
by RangerNeil
digger303 wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:13 am
I've had a thought about those diesel fuel tanks and the exhaust. It could be that quality was a issue particularly during the winter months and low quality diesel can have a lot of wax in it. Cold weather can solidify this blocking all the filters, but by heating it this could be dealt with. It seems like the kind of practical solution the Russians might devise.
We had a experience in the district years ago where the refinery in Perth W.A didn't switch over to making winter fuel (wax free) and caused a whole heap of problems. Needless to say the penny pinching executives coped a earful and it never happened again.
Add to that Derv doesn't ignite like petrol does. It requires extreme heat/pressure for Derv to ignite - one of the reasons NATO switched to an a Derv fuel supply. Having gone careening down a mountain in Germany in a barely controlled 10 ton knocker with with 16,000 litres of CombatGas in jerry cans it was a decision I was right behind!!!

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 8:14 am
by Stokesy44
RangerNeil wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:41 pm
digger303 wrote: Tue Apr 29, 2025 11:13 am
I've had a thought about those diesel fuel tanks and the exhaust. It could be that quality was a issue particularly during the winter months and low quality diesel can have a lot of wax in it. Cold weather can solidify this blocking all the filters, but by heating it this could be dealt with. It seems like the kind of practical solution the Russians might devise.
We had a experience in the district years ago where the refinery in Perth W.A didn't switch over to making winter fuel (wax free) and caused a whole heap of problems. Needless to say the penny pinching executives coped a earful and it never happened again.
Add to that Derv doesn't ignite like petrol does. It requires extreme heat/pressure for Derv to ignite - one of the reasons NATO switched to an a Derv fuel supply. Having gone careening down a mountain in Germany in a barely controlled 10 ton knocker with with 16,000 litres of CombatGas in jerry cans it was a decision I was right behind!!!
Thanks for the info Gents. You both have a much deeper knowledge of these old iron brutes than I have.
I wasn't happy with the track color so I ended up adding pigments.
Spare track links
And front end tracks
Rear end
I'm happy now. I'm calling it done, now its just a matter of picking the next kit. I've got the Tiger I & II already base coated but I quite fancy an aircraft so we'll see which way the wind blows

Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Thu May 01, 2025 10:19 am
by digger303
Re: JS-2M Type 51 Big Rusky Tanky
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 3:54 pm
by Kevthemodeller
You've got those tracks looking top draw mate
