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Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 10:50 pm
by RangerNeil
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 2:59 am
by RangerNeil
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 4:18 am
by cor
Nice start on a classic plane.
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 10:15 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 5:14 pm
by RangerNeil
More progress...... The wings are on, a good fit generally but on the initial fit there were some large gaps at the roots.
However I found pulling the wing tips up fractionally closed the gaps enough for TET to penetrate and hold.
Whilst the wings were setting I moved on to the underwing stores. I should mention here I absolutely hate white acrylic paint as I never get a good finish either with hairy stick or airbrush. Only aerosols/rattle cans.
Pair of drop tanks and gun pod.
Underwing missile racks
And I made a start on the engine exhausts.
By now the wings were firmly set so it was time to mask off the for painting the underside - also white.....
A closer look reveals the only two areas that have needed filler so far - the joins between the intakes and the wing assembly.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:28 pm
by RangerNeil
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 12:34 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 1:23 am
by RangerNeil
I cocked-up the paint order - got gloss clear coat instead of gloss white...

So that won't be here till the 30th now.
Fortunately I have the Hataka set for modern RAF aircraft so I carried on with build #2 and got the gloss coat on today ready for decalling.
Looking at the underside something was wrong - suddenly realized I hadn't opened the holes for the under wing stores. So I made templates from the RN one and used those to drill the holes. Lucky escape there!!!
Tomorrow the decals go on - if they are anything like the cockpit ones which stuck to everything BUT where they were meant to I'm not looking forwards to that.....
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 7:04 am
by cor
Looks like a labour of love, especially with those large gaps on the intakes and wings.
Coming together thought. Good job.
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun May 25, 2025 9:00 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 2:18 am
by RangerNeil
RAF version underside decals all on and matt varnished.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Tue May 27, 2025 4:15 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 3:00 am
by RangerNeil
All decals are on the RAF version now. And what a nightmare they were, I couldn't see half of them without having to resort to the Swiss Army knife magnifying glass.
Decals themselves aren't wonderful - slightly out of register, thick carrier film that doesn't like comforming and, as you can see, shows!!! They were stickier on the visible surface than on the side thats supposed to stick to the wings.
Still - its done now, matt clearcoat is on and drying as I type. Just leaves the undercarriage to do and the weapons pylons.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 4:52 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 7:34 am
by Stokesy44
Such a shame when you've made the effort and still feel disappointed.
Have you considered touching up the decal edges with paint? For example on the roundels? I had a similar problem with the aftermarket decals I bought for a Sherman in 1/35. The carrier film stuck out like a sore thumb so I painted round the actual insignia edges.
Might be worth a punt?
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Wed May 28, 2025 11:30 am
by Kevthemodeller
Decals can really make or break a build, you've saved this one

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 9:48 pm
by RangerNeil
Kevthemodeller wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 11:30 am
Decals can really make or break a build, you've saved this one
Not sure about that - done my best with them but I'm not happy.
Stokesy44 wrote: Wed May 28, 2025 7:34 am
Such a shame when you've made the effort and still feel disappointed.
Have you considered touching up the decal edges with paint? For example on the roundels? I had a similar problem with the aftermarket decals I bought for a Sherman in 1/35. The carrier film stuck out like a sore thumb so I painted round the actual insignia edges.
Might be worth a punt?
Gave it a try - might be better. Trouble is the worst offenders are the myriad of tiny stencils which are almost - not quite impossible..... I think if I'd opted for one of the pale grey finishes the carrier film would not be so visible. Right now I'm sorely tempted to not bother with the stencils on the RN version....
Anyways - undercarriage, underwing stores and canopys are on the RAF version so I'm calling this one done.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Thu May 29, 2025 10:48 pm
by Stokesy44
Nice. Good to see the RAF bird finished

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 12:42 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 3:07 pm
by RangerNeil
I gave the RN Phantom a coat of gloss clearcoat last night, when I checked this morning I noticed something odd. On both wings, in much the same place it looks like the paint has just soaked the varnish in!!
Before the gloss went on everything was a uniform matt Dark Grey colour. Although the affected areas look matt they feel as shiny as the adjacent areas.
The Dark Grey is Hataka blue line and the clearcoat is Humbrol Acrylic Gloss. My first thpugjt was "Its the Humbrol stuff being funny" - but them I remembered I'd had something similar on the Mig-21 engine case and that was an AK paint and an Army Painter Satin clear coat - so perhaps not Humbrol after all.
Anyone got any thoughts on what might be causing this please??
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 8:47 pm
by Stokesy44
How odd. I cant think of anything that would cause such a difference in 2 specific and similar areas.
I would have pointed the finger at the Humbrol product but as you say, its happened before with a different provider. Bizarre.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 9:19 pm
by RangerNeil
Stokesy44 wrote: Sat May 31, 2025 8:47 pm
How odd. I cant think of anything that would cause such a difference in 2 specific and similar areas.
I would have pointed the finger at the Humbrol product but as you say, its happened before with a different provider. Bizarre.
Its weird indeed!! Closer examination revealed patches on the fin as well. I think I'm going to have to lay another coat of extra dark sea grey and hope that cures it.

I'm wondering if it might be worth fitting a larger needle to the ar brush - say 0.5mm - see if that helps as I had flow issues with the 0.3.
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:54 am
by digger303
That's weird
If it was the airbrush it doesn't explain the wing tips and if it was Humbrol ( which I hate and could easily blame ) then it should be all over or start good then run to being bad.
Did you do a second application at any point and perhaps mixed the thinners up by mistake ?
Really just grasping at straws I have no idea at all.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:57 pm
by RangerNeil
digger303 wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:54 am
That's weird
If it was the airbrush it doesn't explain the wing tips and if it was Humbrol ( which I hate and could easily blame ) then it should be all over or start good then run to being bad.
Did you do a second application at any point and perhaps mixed the thinners up by mistake ?
Really just grasping at straws I have no idea at all.
The beauty of the Hataka Blue line is they spray straight from the bottle - no thinners needed, unlike Tamiya to mention but one. So I am totally baffled by this - especially as it looked perfect before the gloss varnish went on...
Anyways - I gave the airbrush a comprehensive cleaning today, tested it - all OK - swapped the needle and nozzle over for the 0.5 one - and the bl@#dy trigger stopped working!! I've had it apart again - if I remove the trigger and press on the valve with a rod air flows. Put the trigger back in and press and all I get is a very slight hiss. So at that point in time I had 3 airbrushes in front of me - none working:
One that wouldn't turn the air off.
One that the air went on and off - but only spat dollops of paint out when the trigger was released.
0ne that wouldn't turn the air on.
After 3 hours of scrubbing and scrapping with airbrush cleaner and laquer thinners I finally had ONE working brush, one working if it was in the mood and one (the newest) that won't turn the air on......
Having got that mess out of the way I've given the Phantom another coat of Dark Sea Grey, let it dry and then another coat of gloss. Fingers crossed it drys OK!!
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:15 am
by digger303
RangerNeil wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:57 pm
digger303 wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:54 am
That's weird
If it was the airbrush it doesn't explain the wing tips and if it was Humbrol ( which I hate and could easily blame ) then it should be all over or start good then run to being bad.
Did you do a second application at any point and perhaps mixed the thinners up by mistake ?
Really just grasping at straws I have no idea at all.
The beauty of the Hataka Blue line is they spray straight from the bottle - no thinners needed, unlike Tamiya to mention but one. So I am totally baffled by this - especially as it looked perfect before the gloss varnish went on...
Anyways - I gave the airbrush a comprehensive cleaning today, tested it - all OK - swapped the needle and nozzle over for the 0.5 one - and the bl@#dy trigger stopped working!! I've had it apart again - if I remove the trigger and press on the valve with a rod air flows. Put the trigger back in and press and all I get is a very slight hiss. So at that point in time I had 3 airbrushes in front of me - none working:
One that wouldn't turn the air off.
One that the air went on and off - but only spat dollops of paint out when the trigger was released.
0ne that wouldn't turn the air on.
After 3 hours of scrubbing and scrapping with airbrush cleaner and laquer thinners I finally had ONE working brush, one working if it was in the mood and one (the newest) that won't turn the air on.....
Having got that mess out of the way I've given the Phantom another coat of Dark Sea Grey, let it dry and then another coat of gloss. Fingers crossed it drys OK!!
For the paint to get back into the area of the valve I would suspect new seals might be needed.
I had a H&S brush that caused problems similiar to that fairly regularly even after installing the upgraded seal set. I ended up moving it on.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:37 am
by RangerNeil
digger303 wrote: Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:15 am
RangerNeil wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 7:57 pm
digger303 wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:54 am
That's weird
If it was the airbrush it doesn't explain the wing tips and if it was Humbrol ( which I hate and could easily blame ) then it should be all over or start good then run to being bad.
Did you do a second application at any point and perhaps mixed the thinners up by mistake ?
Really just grasping at straws I have no idea at all.
The beauty of the Hataka Blue line is they spray straight from the bottle - no thinners needed, unlike Tamiya to mention but one. So I am totally baffled by this - especially as it looked perfect before the gloss varnish went on...
Anyways - I gave the airbrush a comprehensive cleaning today, tested it - all OK - swapped the needle and nozzle over for the 0.5 one - and the bl@#dy trigger stopped working!! I've had it apart again - if I remove the trigger and press on the valve with a rod air flows. Put the trigger back in and press and all I get is a very slight hiss. So at that point in time I had 3 airbrushes in front of me - none working:
One that wouldn't turn the air off.
One that the air went on and off - but only spat dollops of paint out when the trigger was released.
0ne that wouldn't turn the air on.
After 3 hours of scrubbing and scrapping with airbrush cleaner and laquer thinners I finally had ONE working brush, one working if it was in the mood and one (the newest) that won't turn the air on.....
Having got that mess out of the way I've given the Phantom another coat of Dark Sea Grey, let it dry and then another coat of gloss. Fingers crossed it drys OK!!
For the paint to get back into the area of the valve I would suspect new seals might be needed.
I had a H&S brush that caused problems similiar to that fairly regularly even after installing the upgraded seal set. I ended up moving it on.
Could be the seals on the older ones they are at least 6 years old now, maybe more.
Got the new brush stripped down - can't see anything untoward with the trigger. Thought about trying one from one of the other brushes - but the brass rod on them is a slightly larger diameter. Typical!!
Anyways - todays works cured the problem.

Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 11:03 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 11:49 am
by RangerNeil
Changed focus to get the R.N. Phantom finished. Decals are going on:
As with the RAF version the decals silvered as they dried - the stripe along the fuselage spine worst of all, so I tried Stokesys suggestion of over painting the silvered areas:
And the underside:
Next step is to apply a satin clear coat and then add the tail planes, under wing store and main wheels.
Both kits were a delight to build but the decals were a let down. Out of register, wouldn't stick and horribly thick. I'll happily build anothe Fujimi kit but next time I will go for aftermarket decals.
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 10:23 pm
by RangerNeil
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 12:34 am
by digger303
Re: Fujitsu 1/72 Phantom F4K
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 3:45 pm
by Kevthemodeller