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Hi NoelNoelSmith wrote: Sun May 24, 2026 4:21 pm OK A security check to ensure I am not a bot when I sign on is perfectly acceptable.
However is it really necessary for it to activate a check every time I post a reply in a thread?
K so there is rampant online tampering going on with websites.NoelSmith wrote: Sun May 24, 2026 4:21 pm OK A security check to ensure I am not a bot when I sign on is perfectly acceptable.
However is it really necessary for it to activate a check every time I post a reply in a thread?
Yes now that we did this I see way more 'checking to see you aren't a robot' security precautions and understand them.digger303 wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 1:08 am That has happened to me, when I have a few tabs open and reading through the posts and time ticks by.
It is a bit of a pain, but circumstances have made it necessary.
I have since noticed other websites employing the same technique to protect themselves where a month ago they didn't.
Something has changed out in there in the hackers world....maybe Ai.
We are damn lucky to have someone of Mathews knowledge and skill level to have fought the good fight and protected the site.
My sister does it to me when I phone her up.Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 4:44 pm
Yes now that we did this I see way more 'checking to see you aren't a robot' security precautions and understand them.
It is everywhere.
Stokesy44 wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 10:08 pmMy sister does it to me when I phone her up.Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon May 25, 2026 4:44 pm
Yes now that we did this I see way more 'checking to see you aren't a robot' security precautions and understand them.
It is everywhere.
The inconvenience is worth it for what it protects. I have no complaints at all , just disappointed we have to because of the AO's in the world.bfrd wrote: Wed May 27, 2026 2:50 pm So, just to chime in for a couple of points.
1) We tried *many* other avenues to prevent bots from taking down the site. I absolutely didn't do this first. I chose to enable this feature because I had no other reasonable options.
2) I do not have any control over how restrictive the security check is carried out. It is either on or off. I believe there is an activity token that is triggered when the last page event occurs. So that if a user browses to a topic, spends a long-ish amount of time reading, and then sends a quick reply. It is certainly possible that enough time has elapsed that triggers another check. Please keep in mind that anything done to make the security check less invasive will only be exploited by those who created the need for it in the first place.
I am not opposed to turning the feature off and seeing if the problem persists, but I wouldn't expect it to be any different. Without this protection, we will be swarmed by bots within a few minutes, and after an hour or so, they will cause the site to shut down. Adding more resources will change the timing, but not the end result.
I am open to other suggestions if anyone has any.
Yep, I'm a babe in the woods when confronted with this tech stuff.
Now your thinking like meRangerNeil wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 1:39 pm Whats needed is a system that sends a couple of thousand volts and a few hundred amps down the line to the hackers.
Wasn't there something like that in Robocop back in the 80s? Guy gets electrocuted when trying to steal a car.digger303 wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 2:12 pmNow your thinking like meRangerNeil wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 1:39 pm Whats needed is a system that sends a couple of thousand volts and a few hundred amps down the line to the hackers.
I am for this as welldigger303 wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 2:12 pmNow your thinking like meRangerNeil wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 1:39 pm Whats needed is a system that sends a couple of thousand volts and a few hundred amps down the line to the hackers.
Funny you should mention that - We used to have a South African guy in the Regiment who was a veteran of the SADF and legged it it when they tried to re-conscript him (he used to fly Wessex and they were short of pilits at the tine) Anyways one of his favourite tales was car theft was endemic in Jo'burg and one of his mates had 3 brand new cars nicked off his drive in a month so the 4th came home via a specialised body shop. He also paid the local witchdoctor to proclaim a curse on anyone stealing from that property. Thieves being thieves they laughed at the curse markers and 2 nights after the car arrived in the drive they tried stealing it. BIG mistake. An LPG tank in the boot was piped up via an electrically operated, timed, fully on/fully off valve, to a pump, a 1 way valve, an igniter and a series of nozzles just below the sills. When thieves opened a door the interior light came on - only now it was wired to a set of solenoids all controlled by a remote on/off like the alarm so as soon as the interior light energised if the system was armed the on/off valve went to on, the pump kicked in and the igniters did what they always do resulting, effectively, in flame throwers with jets about 2 to 3 feet in length along both sides of the car for a few seconds. The two thieves stood beside the vehice got their lower legs cooked and were on the floor screaming whilst their 2 buddies in the getaway car suddenly got a really bad case of local religion and sang like canaries to the police enabling the local car theft ring to be rolled up.Stokesy44 wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 2:24 pmWasn't there something like that in Robocop back in the 80s? Guy gets electrocuted when trying to steal a car.digger303 wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 2:12 pmNow your thinking like meRangerNeil wrote: Thu May 28, 2026 1:39 pm Whats needed is a system that sends a couple of thousand volts and a few hundred amps down the line to the hackers.
Beautiful. Perfect example of FAFORangerNeil wrote: Fri May 29, 2026 8:12 amFunny you should mention that - We used to have a South African guy in the Regiment who was a veteran of the SADF and legged it it when they tried to re-conscript him (he used to fly Wessex and they were short of pilits at the tine) Anyways one of his favourite tales was car theft was endemic in Jo'burg and one of his mates had 3 brand new cars nicked off his drive in a month so the 4th came home via a specialised body shop. He also paid the local witchdoctor to proclaim a curse on anyone stealing from that property. Thieves being thieves they laughed at the curse markers and 2 nights after the car arrived in the drive they tried stealing it. BIG mistake. An LPG tank in the boot was piped up via an electrically operated, timed, fully on/fully off valve, to a pump, a 1 way valve, an igniter and a series of nozzles just below the sills. When thieves opened a door the interior light came on - only now it was wired to a set of solenoids all controlled by a remote on/off like the alarm so as soon as the interior light energised if the system was armed the on/off valve went to on, the pump kicked in and the igniters did what they always do resulting, effectively, in flame throwers with jets about 2 to 3 feet in length along both sides of the car for a few seconds. The two thieves stood beside the vehice got their lower legs cooked and were on the floor screaming whilst their 2 buddies in the getaway car suddenly got a really bad case of local religion and sang like canaries to the police enabling the local car theft ring to be rolled up.
I can remember thinking at the time " nice idea - but what happens if you've had a few beers and forget to deactivate the system when you go to drive home. Be hell of a way to sober up." Not, of course, that I would have driven after a few beers myself back then..... More like many..... BAOR had the rep of being the fittest alcoholics in the Armys history...
