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Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:56 am
by Colin
Not to sure about bodging one from a cooker extractor though? but not ruling anything out.

This is long overdue here, mainly build 1/12 and sometimes 1/6 Motorcycles and also 1/32 Aircraft that can get quite big so need to bear that in mind, will have no problem venting a flexible hose where I intend to use it, it will go out the small cat door I'm thinking :)

Will be for airbrush use spraying mostly acrylics with occasional lacquers like Alclad 2, if I ever have to use a rattle can again I'll try to do it outside on a calm warm day.

Any recommendations and links (Ebay or otherwise) and something that has easy to find replaceable filters would be appreciated, or any other pitfalls I should be aware of I'd like to hear too.

Thanks.

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:08 pm
by graham22
I bought an Expo unit off of Ebay a while ago - very good - i've actually got 2 (long story) which you can join together to make a larger unit although i've never needed to yet and i've sprayed some pretty big models in it
i don't vent outside as the filter does it's job and i use acrylics rather than enamels (although i prob should)
Cost - around £70
tryhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-airb ... 1c25b2ad5f

hope this help

Graham

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:25 pm
by Colin
Hi Graham, that looks interesting as it has an option to vent out a slightly open window where I plan to use it, like the fact its modular and I could add another for something bigger if needed, also it has a turntable that would be perfect for the model bikes, can you get replacement filters for it?

That vendor has sold a lot and has good feedback so that must count for something I guess!

Thanks, will do some measurements for where I plan to use it and give it serious consideration.

:th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:51 pm
by graham22
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-Airb ... 4614bdf997
Filters around £6 - but if your venting outside would you need the filter? - just a thought

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:57 pm
by Paul
Colin you simply cannot beat the graphic air as300, there approx £280 but I cannot smell a single thing in my workshop even when spraying alclads etc, awesome bit of kit, filters are easily avaiable although not cheap at £90 for 6 but it's unbeatable as a spray booth.

http://www.graphicair.co.uk/products/Gr ... Booth.html

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:02 pm
by Colin
graham22 wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Portable-Airb ... 4614bdf997
Filters around £6 - but if your venting outside would you need the filter? - just a thought
True ... just thought a filter would be a requirement anyhow ... dont know why, LOL.

That sale price is on for 7 days but I'm close to buying unless anyone has any better options they know of.

Out of interest Graham, what's the biggest model you have sprayed with it? trying to figure if its worth going for two at that price, especially as its free postage and all, thinking maybe two might be for big battleship use or something though? biggest kits I've got here are 1/32 SU-27, F-117A, P-38 size.

Would I manage with one do you think?

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:06 pm
by Colin
Paul wrote:Colin you simply cannot beat the graphic air as300, there approx £280 but I cannot smell a single thing in my workshop even when spraying alclads etc, awesome bit of kit, filters are easily avaiable although not cheap at £90 for 6 but it's unbeatable as a spray booth.

http://www.graphicair.co.uk/products/Gr ... Booth.html
Thanks Paul, thats serious cash but I am getting serious about the hobby too and I went through the trauma many modellers did buying a cheap airbrush that nearly put me off for life before finally buying a good one and not looking back, no offence to Grahams advice there BTW, but decisions, decisions ... what to do?

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:13 pm
by Paul
I had an expo unit before I got the graphic air and while it works ok with most acrylics, it's useless for alclads and more potent acrylics like mr hobby etc, it also rather small I struggled getting some 1/48 aircraft in there never mind 1/32.

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:26 pm
by graham22
I've sprayed a 1\32 Sea Venom, 1\48 Merlin, HMS Illustrious 1/350, admittedly one end at a time but for the space and use its more than adiquate for my needs

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:32 pm
by Colin
Thanks again Paul, just looked at the vid in that link, does look very impressive although I'd have to make a base and invest in a turntable and light too, but sure looks suitable for my 1/32 Aircraft kits.

Has a lifetime warranty and free delivery, still need to shift my Nikon D3100 kit (a guitar too) that could go towards this perhaps? but that expensive purchase of Tamiya 1/6 Harley is coming up soon! this extractor could be a once in a lifetime buy though.

I guess filters are still needed to protect the internal fan motor from potential hazardous fumes and risk of fire then ... from that vid anyway or am I worrying too much about that?

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:35 pm
by Colin
graham22 wrote:I've sprayed a 1\32 Sea Venom, 1\48 Merlin, HMS Illustrious 1/350, admittedly one end at a time but for the space and use its more than adiquate for my needs
Thanks again Graham, have that 1/32 Sea Venom too :)

I need to meditate on this purchase for a day or two but I want an extractor soon, its really holding back my builds being without one I reckon.

Really appreciate the help on this guys :th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:43 pm
by Paul
Colin wrote:Thanks again Paul, just looked at the vid in that link, does look very impressive although I'd have to make a base and invest in a turntable and light too, but sure looks suitable for my 1/32 Aircraft kits.

Has a lifetime warranty and free delivery, still need to shift my Nikon D3100 kit (guitar too) that could go towards this perhaps? but that expensive purchase of Tamiya 1/6 Harley is coming up soon! this extractor could be a once in a lifetime buy though.

I guess filters are still needed to protect the internal fan motor from potential hazardous fumes and risk of fire then ... from that vid anyway or am I worrying too much about that?
I believe they are shielded fans so no risk of the fumes, it'll just be to protect it from the paint dust.

Well worth buying, my workshop is very well insulated and sealed and if I can't smell anything in there then no one will :th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:49 pm
by Colin
Paul wrote:
Colin wrote:Thanks again Paul, just looked at the vid in that link, does look very impressive although I'd have to make a base and invest in a turntable and light too, but sure looks suitable for my 1/32 Aircraft kits.

Has a lifetime warranty and free delivery, still need to shift my Nikon D3100 kit (guitar too) that could go towards this perhaps? but that expensive purchase of Tamiya 1/6 Harley is coming up soon! this extractor could be a once in a lifetime buy though.

I guess filters are still needed to protect the internal fan motor from potential hazardous fumes and risk of fire then ... from that vid anyway or am I worrying too much about that?
I believe they are shielded fans so no risk of the fumes, it'll just be to protect it from the paint dust.

Well worth buying, my workshop is very well insulated and sealed and if I can't smell anything in there then no one will :th:
You'd make a great salesman Paul :) but that's an important point, even airbrushing recently I've been getting fed up of fumes for a while afterwards with even tame paint like Tamiya acrylics (not to mention fine spray dust) I'll decide soon.

Thanks again :th:

EDIT: do you vent the fumes outside or rely on the filter?

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:55 pm
by alextheblue
Thanks for asking this question Colin, I was trawling round the interweb earlier today looking for this very product!

And I was going to ask the very same question - do they have to be vented, or can you rely on just the filter? At the moment I don't have anywhere I can chuck a hose outside. I pretty much exclusively use acrylic paints though.

Thanks again! :th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:05 pm
by Paul
alextheblue wrote:Thanks for asking this question Colin, I was trawling round the interweb earlier today looking for this very product!

And I was going to ask the very same question - do they have to be vented, or can you rely on just the filter? At the moment I don't have anywhere I can chuck a hose outside. I pretty much exclusively use acrylic paints though.

Thanks again! :th:
Colin wrote:
Paul wrote:
Colin wrote:Thanks again Paul, just looked at the vid in that link, does look very impressive although I'd have to make a base and invest in a turntable and light too, but sure looks suitable for my 1/32 Aircraft kits.

Has a lifetime warranty and free delivery, still need to shift my Nikon D3100 kit (guitar too) that could go towards this perhaps? but that expensive purchase of Tamiya 1/6 Harley is coming up soon! this extractor could be a once in a lifetime buy though.

I guess filters are still needed to protect the internal fan motor from potential hazardous fumes and risk of fire then ... from that vid anyway or am I worrying too much about that?
I believe they are shielded fans so no risk of the fumes, it'll just be to protect it from the paint dust.

Well worth buying, my workshop is very well insulated and sealed and if I can't smell anything in there then no one will :th:
You'd make a great salesman Paul :) but that's an important point, even airbrushing recently I've been getting fed up of fumes for a while afterwards with even tame paint like Tamiya acrylics (not to mention fine spray dust) I'll decide soon.

Thanks again :th:

EDIT: do you vent the fumes outside or rely on the filter?
They need venting outside, or the filter just removes the particles leaving the solvent fumes floating around.

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:11 pm
by Colin
Called Graphic Air just now to confirm free postage applies to my northern post code and it does, so have ordered the GraphicAir A300S D Airbrush Spray Booth at £280.84 inc VAT and I'm looking fwd to it.

Will need to sell off a camera and old guitar to help build up the balance again, but that was always on the cards.

Might not get full use out of it straight away because the sort of mini patio place I want to put it is under renovations as well as other parts of the house ... thank the lord I don't have an "Er Indoors" to put a clamper on my plans :)

But the thought of no paint spray fumes wafting about the house for a day and lifetime warranty was the clincher for me.

Thanks to all who helped me decide.

:th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:12 pm
by Paul
Nice one colin, you won't regret it.

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:50 pm
by Colin
This is the vid of the spray booth from Graph Air that helped me decide for any one else looking who wants a spray booth too :th:

[youtube]JmT0YhoUX6M[/youtube]

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:05 pm
by Paul
Colin wrote:This is the vid of the spray booth from Graph Air that helped me decide for any one else looking who wants a spray booth too :th:

[youtube]JmT0YhoUX6M[/youtube]
That's lee's vid off the ism you tube channel colin :th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:48 pm
by Colin
Paul wrote:
Colin wrote:This is the vid of the spray booth from Graph Air that helped me decide for any one else looking who wants a spray booth too :th:

[youtube]JmT0YhoUX6M[/youtube]
That's lee's vid off the ism you tube channel colin :th:
Awesome and true karma, Thanks Lee and Paul :cheers2:

Wish I'd bought it at the discount while I was still at Flory Models :)

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:55 pm
by Paul
Colin wrote:
Paul wrote:
Colin wrote:This is the vid of the spray booth from Graph Air that helped me decide for any one else looking who wants a spray booth too :th:

[youtube]JmT0YhoUX6M[/youtube]
That's lee's vid off the ism you tube channel colin :th:
Awesome and true karma, Thanks Lee and Paul :cheers2:

Wish I'd bought it at the discount while I was still at Flory Models :)
Funny you should say that there doing a group buy right now and are short two people, might be worth a months subscription to save the cash lol

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:25 pm
by Colin
Thanks but no, money seems to be out of my account already, so its a done deal.

Wouldn't mind the manufacturer and purchase place of that light Lee is using in that vid though?

that has to be my next purchase, a good flexible light.

:th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:04 pm
by Paul
Yeah I've got two of those lightcraft triple tubes normally Around the £90 mark I've seen some for £65 ill find a link in a bit

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:13 pm
by Paul

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:27 pm
by Lee
That's the puppy and £40 less than I paid for it.....!!!

Getting another for the spray bay :th:

Re: Looking for a good spray booth

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:34 am
by Colin
Light purchased too now ... beans on toast up until Christmas for me for sure, have blown my modelling budget until at least March 2014 he kids himself :)

I'm chuffed to bits !

PS: for those looking, when I got that link for the Extractor from Paul and looked at site ... even phoned them to check free postage was good for me, even looking at the vid I never thought it was from here, thought from all the mentions of florrys it might be from there ... But I'm still cool with that, well done Lee, you sold me ... LOL.