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Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:14 pm
by Panzerwolf
I love Paper Panzers, and hope that some of you like them too.
Would anyone be interested in a Paper Panzer SiG?
For those of you who don't know, Paper Panzers are German WW2 tank (Panzers) projects, that were drawn or blueprinted (Paper) or even manufactured as prototypes, but never entered mass production. Examples are the E-series, Pzkpfw VIII Maus and the Panther II.
I know that 2014 is pretty busy concerning GBs and SiGs, but I'm only asking if anyone even was interested in this first.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:40 am
by HotziSlayer
I love paper panzers too, would join.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:00 am
by ForbesHutton
WoT player, so yes I'm interested in the paper panzers.

It would depend on the timing, but I'd like to join.

Perhaps, Panzerwolf if you start a list of the available paper panzer models it might pull in some more interest.

Trumpeter e-25:

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Amusing hobby Lowe:

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Dragon Maus:

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Amusing hobby VK30.02 (the Panther that never was):

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Dragon Panther II:

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Trumpeter E-100:

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Trumpeter E-75:

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Hobby Boss VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. A:

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Hobby Boss VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B:

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There's plenty more, but those are the ones I know of off the top of my head. Others can add to the list.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:03 am
by ForbesHutton
If anyone knows of a model of the Ratte, speak up:

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Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:05 am
by UKscalemodeller
I was just about to ask if a Ratte would fit

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:25 am
by Jenik
I am also WOT player, so I might join, but first I need to get some skills so the tank would actually look like tank :)
The kits there is a great help, I am now working on getting E-100 (still on tier VII so it will take time), would have been nice to have one on my shelf. Currently I am working on Hetzer, lets see what will come out of my attempt :(

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:42 am
by ForbesHutton
UKscalemodeller wrote:I was just about to ask if a Ratte would fit
As a paper panzer? Sure, it was on paper.

As a model? 1/72 it would be big. In 1/35 you wouldn't fit it on a display shelf, but you could put a sheet of glass on top and use it as a coffee table. 8-)

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:29 am
by Lee
This could be a good idea for a SiG later on in he year - I want to build a Maus :th:

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:09 am
by Panzerwolf
Wow, great to see some replies!
Thanks a LOT for the list, Forbes! I'll work on a bigger one this weekend.
Some WoT players who'd like to build an E-100, be aware that there are only kits with turrets entirely different than in the game. You can get a resin Krupp -Turm though (rare). I'd get the Krupp one, the Mausturm on the E-100 looks a bit bulky.
Yes, the SiG might suit well for late year or even 2015.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:21 am
by TexasAndy
Panzerwolf wrote:I love Paper Panzers, and hope that some of you like them too.
Would anyone be interested in a Paper Panzer SiG?
For those of you who don't know, Paper Panzers are German WW2 tank (Panzers) projects, that were drawn or blueprinted (Paper) or even manufactured as prototypes, but never entered mass production. Examples are the E-series, Pzkpfw VIII Maus and the Panther II.
I know that 2014 is pretty busy concerning GBs and SiGs, but I'm only asking if anyone even was interested in this first.

Uh yeah...hell yeah! I have a couple of items in the stash to build!

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:01 pm
by Panzerwolf
So here a list of Paper Panzer kits:


E-10

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E-25

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E-50

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Flakpanzer E-50

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E-75

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Flakpanzer E-75

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E-100

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E-100 Sturmgeschütz

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Pzkpfw I Ausf. C/F

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Pzkpfw V Panther F/II

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Flakpanzer V Coelian

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Pzkpfw VII Löwe

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Pzkpfw VIII Maus

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VK 16.02 Leopard

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VK 30.02 (DB) (Panther prototype)

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VK 30.01 (H)

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VK 45.02 (Turm vorne & hinten)

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Geschützwagen VI/Tiger

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Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger

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12.8cm Pak 44 Waffenträger

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Krupp/Ardelt Waffenträger 8.8cm

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Found this, soon to come out Amusing Hobby VK 72.01 (K), awesome!

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Tanks, of which some prototypes were manufactured but never entered mass production are eligible as well.
There is a load of Paper Panzers, but only a few kits exist.
Tell me some more suggestions (or correct me on some tanks) and I'll add them.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:47 am
by Panzermeister36
I see you corrected their typo in the VK4502; “hintern” means a living thing’s butt, “hinten” means rear, back, etc. :tongue:

We had the Beutepanzer, now we have a Buttpanzer! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'd be in in a SiG like dis! So much to do! :cheers2:

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:00 am
by Tiger131
got a couple in my stash so i will play

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:53 am
by alextheblue
Definitely interested in this one. Only one problem.....................which one to build??? :crazy:

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:39 pm
by Jenik
Well shame that the Jagdpanzer E100, looks completely different in WOT. If it were the same I would definitely get it as I am proud owner of this tank in the game.
in this case I will probably get the E100 and E75, which will be mine (not soon, but they WILL !!!!) :)

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:33 pm
by Panzerwolf
Panzermeister36 wrote:I see you corrected their typo in the VK4502; “hintern” means a living thing’s butt, “hinten” means rear, back, etc. :tongue:

We had the Beutepanzer, now we have a Buttpanzer! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Buttpanzer :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I've got that model in my stash, the typo bugs me everyday :x
Jenik wrote:Well shame that the Jagdpanzer E100, looks completely different in WOT. If it were the same I would definitely get it as I am proud owner of this tank in the game.
in this case I will probably get the E100 and E75, which will be mine (not soon, but they WILL !!!!) :)
There's always the possibility of scratch building :D

I think if they implemented the actual E-100 StuG in WoT, it would be way too overpowered with that thick and sloped frontal armor. Impossible to penetrate by normal tank shells!

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:39 pm
by Schoof
Uhm. ..... The Maus isn't a paper panzer. ...... It is build and still exists

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:44 pm
by Panzerwolf
Yes Seb, that is right, e. g. a Geschützwagen Tiger prototype existed as well.
As I mentioned, prototypes are allowed as well, all Panzers that did not enter mass production.
The Maus had 2 prototypes manufactured, the V1 and the V2. Some tanks were ordered, but never entered production.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:27 pm
by Schoof



Maybe interesting then

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:37 pm
by Panzerwolf
Wow, that sure is an interesting walkaround!
Thanks for sharing!

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:00 pm
by Jenik
Jenik wrote:Well shame that the Jagdpanzer E100, looks completely different in WOT. If it were the same I would definitely get it as I am proud owner of this tank in the game.
in this case I will probably get the E100 and E75, which will be mine (not soon, but they WILL !!!!) :)
There's always the possibility of scratch building :D

I think if they implemented the actual E-100 StuG in WoT, it would be way too overpowered with that thick and sloped frontal armor. Impossible to penetrate by normal tank shells![/quote]


Well nice idea of scratch building, but my skills now are that good, that I build just out of box models. I am really not ready to do any scratch build yet :(
However I got my E75 (still not in "elite" stage", but already i am working on it. So for me it would be the E75.
About the parameters in WOT - lets say that if they make everything "by the book" the game will look completely different. You cant imagine how :eeek: I am when my Jagdpanzer E100 (tier X) detrack the VIII scout or if it even bounce me, only the kinetic energy would turn the tank upside down when the shell hits the VIII, may be even when it would go close enough. But it is game so I am trying to avoid a heart attack and stay 8-)

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:42 pm
by Trainboy153
im in!

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:07 pm
by TheNordus
I would take part, but it seems I can't find a Maus in 1/35 for sale anywhere for a reasonable price.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:25 am
by WirbelwindModelling
I would love to join this SIG if it happens!!

One point; I hate to be a party pooper but the Jagdpanzer E 100 is COMPLETE fiction it was designed by a modeller in the seventies and Tom Jentz and Hilary Doyle the two experts in the field have discounted it as it appears in no historical documents. Therefore it would not count as a paper panzer more a fantasy panzer. I don't know whether the guidelines would be lenient enough to allow it though....

Also any other E series tank (or tank destroyer variant) that ISN'T the E 10, 25, 50, 75 or 100 are completely MADE UP by modellers and never existed in German plans.
The E 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 were designed by the Germans

One last point, unfortunately the turret in the trumpeter E 100 is also made up :(

Sorry to sound a bit rivet counter like but I do have an in depth love and knowledge of German armoured vehicles in WW 2.

Wirbel

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:34 am
by ILuvMigs
There is one in 15mm.

http://www.forgedinbattle.com/product_i ... cts_id=209


ForbesHutton wrote:If anyone knows of a model of the Ratte, speak up:

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And yes I would LOVE to get in on the SiG, would there be a scale limit or any scale ok?

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:20 am
by trekfanj
I have a Trumpeter 1/35 pak.44 Waffentrager; if it counts I would join in on this.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:41 am
by pmarshall
Drat,

Just started my VK 16.02 Leopard.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:59 am
by AlkaSeltzer
WirbelwindModelling wrote:I would love to join this SIG if it happens!!

One point; I hate to be a party pooper but the Jagdpanzer E 100 is COMPLETE fiction it was designed by a modeller in the seventies and Tom Jentz and Hilary Doyle the two experts in the field have discounted it as it appears in no historical documents. Therefore it would not count as a paper panzer more a fantasy panzer. I don't know whether the guidelines would be lenient enough to allow it though....

Also any other E series tank (or tank destroyer variant) that ISN'T the E 10, 25, 50, 75 or 100 are completely MADE UP by modellers and never existed in German plans.
The E 10, 25, 50, 75 and 100 were designed by the Germans

One last point, unfortunately the turret in the trumpeter E 100 is also made up :(

Sorry to sound a bit rivet counter like but I do have an in depth love and knowledge of German armoured vehicles in WW 2.

Wirbel
you sir are a serious buzz kill. :bash: But I would like to build a Lowe is this build happens. :thumb1:

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:16 pm
by Nige1940
I'd be in on a Paper Panzer SiG too They're My favourite sphere of armour modelling that Sci-fi edge
is often a welcome change one thing I like about it is the freedom and artistic license they allow , It's not really an issue if something's a complete fiction or not .
just modelling fun , exactly what it was intended to be .

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:25 pm
by LucasFromSweden
I would love to join this as my first SiG.
Panther 2 and the fictional E-100 seem cool

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:37 pm
by Tiger131
when would this start...?????????

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:53 pm
by Luft46
I have one of these new Dragon Panther F long barrel on order and would like to join this SIG.
Any idea when it would start?

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Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:45 am
by DaMadModler
Hum found one that looks way cool so I'd join in.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:53 pm
by Skat
Hey guys,

Is this going to start anytime soon? Because I just got this :) :

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Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:29 am
by JayBrd
Just started a 16th scale Panther II... Would be interested in hopping in on this as my for SiG.

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:12 pm
by AlkaSeltzer
Paper Panzer sounds fun! When would it begin?

Re: Paper Panzer SiG!...?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:42 am
by HotziSlayer
i really would like to join