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AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:58 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:08 pm
by ManCupboardModels
Very nice. Look forward to seeing this come together

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:58 pm
by Rodney
Nice going to watch this one

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:40 pm
by T3hGuppy
Nice to see the emergency services being represented.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:13 pm
by Tamiyasnob
This could be interesting

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:03 pm
by LudvigN
That looks like a serious challenge, look forward to see how you tackle it

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:03 am
by robertw
So cool! As someone who used to be a volunteer fire fighter I've always wanted to do something fire related. Only problem is most of it is crazy expensive.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:31 pm
by Corkmyster9436
A little of the 140yr history of American LaFrance
American LaFrance, the nations premiere manufacturer of fire fighting rigs can trace its roots back to 1832 when John F. Rogers began manufacturing hand-pumped fire engines known as Roger's patent on the banks of King's canal in Waterford NY. Over the next two years, the company had changed hands twice and changed its name to L Button & Son. In 1862 The Button Fire Engine Company began building steam-powered fire engines, selling their first to Battle Creek Michigan. In 1891, the company now called the Button Fire Engine works, joined forces with some of the other leading manufacturers of the day to form the American Fire Engine Company.
LaFrance had been formed in 1873 by Truckson LaFrance, an ironworker from Pennsylvania who invented the rotary steam engine. Like Button Fire Engine Works, LaFrance Manufacturing Company had contributed greatly to the fledgling industry. In 1882 LaFrance produced the first commercially successful extension ladder. The 85ft aerial was raised by a single horizontal worm gear turned by a long handle, manually by four to six men. As the gear turned, a large nut moved forward and raised the ladder. Because it was mounted on a turn table, the ladder could be swung in any position, the design was truly brilliant for at the time aerial ladders extended no more than 60ft (18m). In 1884, LaFrance developed a piston steam engine to replace the outmoded rotary engine, and in 1894 the company built the Macomber Chemicalizer, the first pumper to combine water w/salt and other fire fighting chemicals. For many years, chemicals pumpers helped extinguish 85% of all fire in their early stages.
In the late 1890's, a group of New York investors decided to create a monopoly of fire engine manufacturers and made plans to purchase all the known manufacturers from New York to St. Paul Minnesota. In its quest to control the market, the International Fire Engine Company over extended itself and reorganized in 1903 as the American LaFrance Fire Engine Company after the twomajor engine companies: American and LaFrance.
About 1910 fire departments around the United States intrigued by the automobile, began to demand self-propelled fire engines. American LaFrance was the first company to produce a gas powered engine, a combination (chemical and Hose) car built for Lenox Massachusetts. American LaFrance made its last steamer in 1914, and by this time it had successfully made the transition to motorized apparatus. From 1910 to 1926, the company produced more than 4000 pumpers, as well as aerials, ladders, water tower and various other apparatus. Then, and for decades to come, American LaFrance was the number one producer of fire apparatus. From the days of hand pumpers up to the present day, American LaFrance has been an innovator in the fire fighting industry. In 1929, the company introduced its Master Series of fire apparatus, featuring such first as four wheel brakes and left hand steering. The first all-steel aerial ladder w/ full hydraulic power appeared in 1935. Another American LaFrance innovation was a 12-cylinder V block, 240hp engine w/a pumping capacity of 1500gpm (5678 l/m), For three decades, the V-12 powered the company's flagship fire engines.
In 1939, American LaFrance introduced a new design that would eventually become industry standard- the cab-forward. After WWII, the cab-forward was the only style offered by the company. In 1941, American LaFrance delivered the first 125ft (38m) aerial to Boston Massachusetts. A year later the truck was crushed when a wall fell on it, but the ladder itself withstood the impact and stood fully extended during the accident.
In 1973, American LaFrance marked the 100th anniversary with introduction of its Century Series. Jump forward to 2005 American LaFrance was bought and sold twice between 2005 and 2008. Sadly in Jan 2014 American LaFrance unexpectedly closed it's doors siting financial reasons w/ no hope of being reopened.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:53 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:16 pm
by Paul
Excellent choice of subject, should be an epic build

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:05 pm
by PugmooG
I'm loving that kit, for me it brings to mind my first job (Not a Firefighter, lol) I had to recreate it in 3D for a computer game I worked on, for the old Xbox. Wish I had that kit at the time for ref. Only had a handful of Photos to work from. That's sort of why I started to buy kits again, then got back into building them! Great kit. I think I've still got the 3D model somewhere?!

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:01 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:05 pm
by Rob
Impressive kit and a great start

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:41 pm
by kiwigav
Now thats a old classic beast of a Fire Truck. Good luck with the build.

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:25 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:36 pm
by ManCupboardModels
Great start!

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:02 am
by T3hGuppy
Looking good dude.
And thanks for sharing you history with this subject.
Something I plan to do in the future. Build subjects from my life.
Awesome.

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:04 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:04 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:39 pm
by T3hGuppy
More great progress buddy.
Those wheels look great

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:34 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Worked on the front end a little at a time over the last 3 days.

Had to do some minor surgery on this piece as 1 of the plastic studs had broken off, replaced w/ brass rod

every thing painted

Leaf Springs and Steering box added

Steering linkage added

shocks added both sides

tie rod in place

front rotor w/ air brakes

front tires on

Rear Axle starts tomarrow when I get home from work.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:24 pm
by robertw
Looking great!

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:07 pm
by Corkmyster9436
parts for the rear axle

rear tires, hubs and chrome caps

air brakes for rear axle

rear leaf spring in place

rear axle

ready for paint

more tomarrow
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 7:04 am
by Corkmyster9436

Well crap, while moving pics from 1 file to another on photobucket w/ the ISM page still open, photobucket was nice enough to delete a few pics off this thread, guess what I won't be doing again...... it was a Long 3 nights @ work.

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:15 am
by Corkmyster9436
ready for rear end assembly

So in my carelessness, I layed the bag w/ the cab on the floor( I sit on the floor @ the coffee table) while working on the model and got up to see what the dogs were barking at, Heard something crunch under my foot, you guessed it, it was the cab.

so while waiting for paint to dry I repaired the cab, will work on sanding it before I paint it

now back to the rear axle
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:22 am
by gaz45
good recovery mate
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:54 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:15 am
by warpedcrisis
looking nice so far
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:12 am
by Yellowlazer101
Looking great so far, love what you did with the engine.

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:15 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:05 am
by T3hGuppy
Get work dude.
You are really flying along with this one.
Glad you managed to fix the cab up.

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:06 am
by eoinfinnegan
Your doing a nice job

il look forward to seen it coming together
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:06 am
by HistoryRider
OOOH LOOK!!! A Fire Truck!!!!! Great work and awesome progress!!

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:12 am
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:48 am
by T3hGuppy
Looking good buddy,
She is a fair size.
Will look great on display.

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:25 pm
by Corkmyster9436
just a short update, taped up where the chrome parts will go. drilled out the holes for the air horns and front wheel fenders

got the cab sanded where the glue seams were from the repair job and added a couple pieces of plasti-struct to the inside of the cab to strengthen the seams for sanding

will have to stop @ my LHS tomarrow an get a new tube of Squadron white putty to fix the small gaps along the bottom edge of the windshield. I'm off to bed, have to work 5 more nights this wk
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:43 pm
by Matthew
Nice m8

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:47 pm
by gaz45
great work mate
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:27 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Fenders on the cab and prepped for painting

chrome for the cab

going to skip the next couple segments for the cab as chrome parts would be in the way of what I want detail on the cab, will come back to it, now on to the body.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:23 pm
by Corkmyster9436
parts for the interior of the cab

parts painted, diamond plate on the floor board painted

front seat, gear shifter, gas, brake and clutch pedals in

drivers seat in place

dashboard in place, micro klear was used to make lenses for the dials on the dash board.

steering wheel in

and 6 pike poles done

that's it till after the wkend, have a D-Day re-enactment to attend this wkend...
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:57 pm
by eoinfinnegan
Your steaming along nicelly, the cab floor looks cool

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:22 pm
by kiwigav
Nice build. Its coming along sweet.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:10 pm
by gaz45
Great work
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:20 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:12 pm
by Corkmyster9436
ok, after a few days off from the ladder truck and a consult w/ the guy from my LHS, will have respray the ladders, rear decking and sides for the engine compartment. I used buffable aluminum spray paint for those parts and the result was residue rubbing off on my fingers. yes I considered sealing them, but was told the sealer darkens the painted surfaces. So on to the turn table parts..

turn table base

lift cylinder w/ ladder base

back of the rear deck

will be getting more fire red/ aluminum spray tomarrow or Friday morning..
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:16 pm
by Corkmyster9436
ok, got the parts repainted w/ Tamiya AS-12 Bare Metal Silver and started work on the stabilizing jacks

parts for the lift cylinders/ foot plates for stabilizing jacks and Engine covers

bottom of the side compartments

back piece of truck w/ tail board

Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 1:28 pm
by Corkmyster9436
Got the stabilizing jacks done a few days ago, been busy training for a new position @ work
stabilizers w/ lift arms

foot plates added

lift cylinders added

hopefully will be able to get back putting the ladder truck together this week
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 3:55 pm
by Corkmyster9436
ok, training for my new job at work is almost over, YEAH, have had only 5 nights off since the beginning of May, will getting back to a normal schedual soon, an back to working on the model.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:20 pm
by Corkmyster9436
OK so after almost a year of not doing anything w/ this model, I had mostly paint issues w/ this one and a severe case of lost modeling MOJO, I was on the ISM FB page the other day and someone asked about using oven cleaner to strip paint off plastic, I went by my LHS and asked to owner if he had heard of or tried using oven cleaner to strip paint. He said he had used it in the past, but it could soften the plastic, he recomened a product called Scalecoat II Wash Away. I put the turn table top in the solution for 10 minutes, then took an used tooth brush to it under warm water, paint came right off, an no damage to the plastic. going to do the other parts today and should be back to getting this model going again this weekend. will post some before and after pics of the painted/ stripped parts.
Re: AMT/ERTL 1/25 scale American LaFrance Ladder Chief
Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 3:17 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Get that mojo working for you and get back at her!
It is a great looking build so far, shame to not finish off
Good luck