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Over the top ,British infantry in the trenches

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Hi guys and girls
So as i voted for a WWI GB last uear in the polls it seems fitting that i actually join the GB
I was going to build a tank but as my brain had a massive brain fart earlier this year i managed to build that tank allready :wall:
So yesterday at the KMK Scaleworld modelling show i was looking for something to build
And i came across this kit
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A nice little kit from Masterbox with 5 figures and a trench

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20180910_005213 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
On the left you can see what it could look like and the instructions and sprue map are on the back of the box aswell

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The figure sprue

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Some close ups of the figures
The kit has 3 infantrymen and 2 officers
The men are climbing out of their trench for the impending attack while the officers signal the start of that attack

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20180910_005328 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Then there is this ICM sprue with all the gear
I'm not that well informed about the weapons of the British army at that time but it looks like the regular webbing gear and the Lee-Enfield MarkIII SMLE (Short Magazine Lee Enfield)
And some Webley revolvers and a Lewis gun

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20180910_005340 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And 1 of the 2 trench sprues
They are identical so i will just show 1

The plan
When i think of WWI or the Great War the first thing that comes to mind are trenches
Miles and miles of trenches (should say kilometers ,the Dutch don't use miles :lol: )
And in fact this was true
The trenches went all the way from Switserland to the English channel
Ofcourse there where gaps but still there where lots of them
And those trenches became home to millions of soldiers on both the Allied side (British ,French, Commonwealth and later American troops) and the side of the Central powers (German empire and the Austro Hungarian Empire)
So i was thinking about a trench scene anyway i just didn't know what untill i bought something
But now i do
I will not use the kit trench but instead i will scratch build one
To me the kit trench looks too new
No damaged walkways of boards on the side to keep the mud out
The sandbags are placed in a neat little line
And besides that the the trench is quite open on all sides
In real life trenches where often dug out in a rush as they needed to be made in recently taken territory before the enemy counter attacked

So for the trench i will be using this
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20180910_005517 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
A ceramic vingette base by Add on parts wich is about 20x20 cm square and build a new trench on that
This way i can use actuall sand ,but also make stuff like sandbags and barbed wire
I also want to include the entrance of a shelter or observation post to close up one end of the trench
All the other stuff can be made using balsa wood and various other materials

The history part
I'm nkt going to bore you with badly told story about the times of the Great War
Instead i will point out the Youtube channel The Great War
That is the channel that got me intrested in WWI in the first place
It is a week by week report of the war on all fronts and even the home fronts and all kinds of background stories like the rise of the Soviet movement (they came to be in those days)
But also videos about the firearms or vehicles of those days
And even trips to the actuall sites like Anzac cove
Each week there is a new video about what happened 100 years ago
So i think it is well worth the efford of looking in to it
I tend to start one of the playlists when i am modelling (i needed to catch up with 3 years of the war :lol: ) and i find it pretty intresting to see what happend all those years ago

So that is the intro of my entry
I will be building the figures today and hope to get them primed and start on the trench a bit
Even if it is just preparing the sides and make some of the wooden parts i want in there
So i hooe to be back with some progres soon

Take care
Cheers
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Looking forward to see what you do with this mate
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Whats the quality of the figures like ?
Hornet heads ? or are the kit heads usable ?
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Nice choice, can't wait to see how you do the trench and how it comes out.
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gaz45 wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:57 am Looking forward to see what you do with this mate
Thanks Gaz
barrythornton wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:33 pm Whats the quality of the figures like ?
Hornet heads ? or are the kit heads usable ?
Good luck sir. Be home by Christmas. 8-)
They look okay
Not resin quality but i can work with them
I have seen worse
So far the only thing i noticed where the seamlines but you get that with all the styrene figures
Johno wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:08 pm Nice choice, can't wait to see how you do the trench and how it comes out.
Thanks
I am working on the trench at the moment
I started out with the ceramic base and made some styrene walls for the outside of the scene
Now i am cutting up a lot of balsawood for all the wooden parts wich i hope to have finished tonight and give them a bit of color to make them look worn
And maybe i will start filling in the scene so i can add the sand and mud
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Can’t wait to see what you make out of these :thumb2:
Quite amazed that they all have their shirts done up to their necks and no extra mammary appendages are protruding out
There I made up for not commenting on the other thread now :tongue:

Seriously, good luck with the figures and a dio, will be watching
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Thank you Scott
But it was a good observation
Most of the figures and busts i have are female
Only the 1/35 figures are male subjects
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Hi guys
I think it is time for the first update on this little build
Mainly because at this point all of the construction is done and i actaully started to work on the painting

So what happened so far
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I started out by making some walls on the base
They are just plain and simple styrene sheets that where cut to the size i wanted and glued together

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And look at my super fancy drawing skills :eeek:
I basicly marked where i wanted the walkway to be and where the shelter entrance will go

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I then started to cut all the pieces of wood using various sizes of balsa wood
Like 1mm sheets for the boards and 5 mm for the poles

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Then the walkway was placed
I glued to coffee stirrers to the base and then glued the small strips of balsawood on the stirrers

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To make the side walls a bit stronger i used 2 larger pieces of balsa wood as a backing for the boards

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Then the boards and poles where glued to the sheets

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With another sheet of balsa wood i repeated that proces to make the shelter entrance

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And a roof was added
I didn't add any detail on there because it will be covered with soil later on
So any work would be covered up

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I then made a very basic ladder as the kit ladder was too short
My trench is a bit deeper the kit trench
And a step so soldiers could peek over the top and shoot

One laat thing i did but didn't take a photo of was to add some masking tape to the holes around the styrofoam filling and the sides
Just to fill in the gaps so not too much of the sand will fall in those holes when i start adding the soil in the scene
Maybe it is good to mention that all the wooden parts except for the shelter roof and the walkway are still not glued in
This will make painting and weathering a lot easier
Once they are done i will glue them to the base and start to add the soil
Stuff like wet mud effects and some puddles can be added later on as the mix of white glue ,water and sand needs to be dry first
Then i need to make sure the areas where i want puddles are water tight and then i can add the final water effects
Sounds pretty posh to make it water tight but basicly it means i will brush in some carpenters glue in the holes for the puddles and let that dry for a day
Then i can add some drops of Vallejo still water in them without having to worry about that stuff sinking in the soil
That happened a few times allreasy with older builds


And to prepare the last little bit for painting

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My army of 5
Judging by the looks of them there is one high ranking officer (he has a cap) and 1 lower ranking officer with 3 infantrymen (they all have helmets)

So once the figures where ready i drilled some holes in their boots and glued some metal wire in the holes to make sure i can paint them without touching the figure itself
Then the figures and the outside of the base where primed in grey Ammo primer and the base was painted with Tamiya flat black once the primer was dry

And that is where this build is at right now
Next time i hope to have the base finished wich means to weather up the wooden boards with some washes and add the soil with all the stuff i want to add to it and the water/mud i want to add
Then i will be painting the figures and add the last bits of detail on them like some slings for the guns and some wire for the officers revolver ,i forgot the name but they have a rope that is attached to a loop on the bottom of the gun and to their uniform so they can't drop the revolver on the ground

So that is all for now
Take care
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Look at him go !!!
Sweet :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Wow, looking great already, will really come to life once you start shooting some paint at it all.

Wanting to build something like this myself, maybe in the new year, looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:49 am Look at him go !!!
Sweet :banana: :banana: :banana:
Thanks Scott but this was the easy and fast part
Painting and adding the soil will take a bit longer i think
Gary30 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:56 am Wow, looking great already, will really come to life once you start shooting some paint at it all.

Wanting to build something like this myself, maybe in the new year, looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
Thanks Gary
It is a fairly easy build
All you really need are some scratch build materials like balsa wood and some foam as filler
I actually wanted to do a single larger figure but those where a bit on the expensive side
Well more expensive then what i am willing to pay for a single 90mm figure anyway
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@MarkVerploeg
So is this a 1/32 scale figure set??
I find the differences in figure scales confusing, kind of like train scale
Heck of a lot easier painting a 1/32 figure than a 1/72, that I know
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:28 pm @MarkVerploeg
So is this a 1/32 scale figure set??
I find the differences in figure scales confusing, kind of like train scale
Heck of a lot easier painting a 1/32 figure than a 1/72, that I know
No this is a 1/35 kit
Figures from the real figure brands like Ares ,Nocturna and Andrea use different scales then brands with vehicles
Some are about the same though
54 mm scale is about the same as 1/32
70 mm scale is the same as 1/24
120 mm is 1/16
So 90 mm would roughly be 1/20 based on the average height of a man being a out 1.80 meters or 6 feet devided by 20

Train scales are a different matter
They have scales that are way different then static display models
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MarkVerploeg wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:24 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:28 pm @MarkVerploeg
So is this a 1/32 scale figure set??
I find the differences in figure scales confusing, kind of like train scale
Heck of a lot easier painting a 1/32 figure than a 1/72, that I know
No this is a 1/35 kit
Figures from the real figure brands like Ares ,Nocturna and Andrea use different scales then brands with vehicles
Some are about the same though
54 mm scale is about the same as 1/32
70 mm scale is the same as 1/24
120 mm is 1/16
So 90 mm would roughly be 1/20 based on the average height of a man being a out 1.80 meters or 6 feet devided by 20

Train scales are a different matter
They have scales that are way different then static display models
Would this figure go in well with the 1/32 scale aircraft we are doing or be noticeably too small?
I copied and pasted your figure sizing for future reference into my notepad :D
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1/35 would be a bit small
They would look a bit out of scale i think
Atleast when they are close to a 1/32 plane or other figure
Then the height wouldn't be the biggest issue but parta like the head would look quite small
Or if you want a short guy in a scene then it could work
All in all the difference between a 1/32 and 1/35 figure is about 2 or 3 mm
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Oh this is going to be good, watching with great interest mate :th:
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Thanks Kev
I hooe to get a couple of things done in the next few days but it depends on my workdays
Mostly at what ridiculous time i get home
But if i can get the wooden parts done today i can start with the dirt once that is in it needs to dry for atleast a day
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I've loved the Masterbox kits that I've used so far so really looking forward to seeing you work your magic on the figures Mark!

I didn't realise they put scenery in them as well so will have to keep an eye out for those - great work on getting the trench section together so quickly and I might have to nick your walkway process too :whistle:
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Looks like fun! I've always liked seeing figures-only dioramas.
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Tomcat64 wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:20 pm I've loved the Masterbox kits that I've used so far so really looking forward to seeing you work your magic on the figures Mark!

I didn't realise they put scenery in them as well so will have to keep an eye out for those - great work on getting the trench section together so quickly and I might have to nick your walkway process too :whistle:
Thanks Neil
I haven't used many of them yet
Only 1 or 2 older ones
This set is okay but i had to do some filling wich was easy with some home made filler (the molten sprue goo)
But their sets seem to be all over the place as to what can be in them
I also have the Band of Brothers set with all the guys on a Sherman and that has a lot of figures for one kit
So i guess it really depends on the set as for what you get but it is mentionned on the box that this one has a trench in the kit
Allthough it looks really basic but that is why i decided to build a new one
ElCapitan wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:27 pm Looks like fun! I've always liked seeing figures-only dioramas.
It actually is fun
I haven't done a lot with diorama's the past 2 years but i like making some stuff from scratch
This would be one of my first figure only builds though
I think i did one in the past and that was with some resin figures in a larger scale
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That's coming along great Mark! :cheers2:

I can't wait to see the boards all weathered up and the figures all painted up. I can almost fee l the mud under my feet. :th:
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alextheblue wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:20 am That's coming along great Mark! :cheers2:

I can't wait to see the boards all weathered up and the figures all painted up. I can almost fee l the mud under my feet. :th:
And smell the trench-foot!
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alextheblue wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:20 am That's coming along great Mark! :cheers2:

I can't wait to see the boards all weathered up and the figures all painted up. I can almost fee l the mud under my feet. :th:
Thank you Alex
I hope to get some more progres done today and tomorrow
Then it should look a lot more like the scene that i want
ElCapitan wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:22 am
alextheblue wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:20 am That's coming along great Mark! :cheers2:

I can't wait to see the boards all weathered up and the figures all painted up. I can almost fee l the mud under my feet. :th:
And smell the trench-foot!
I hope not
My entire apartment will smell bad if that happens :lol:
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Hi guys
Time for a new update as there has been enough progres that i can't touch this build for a day ...the base anyway , i can work on the figures

So what happened since last time
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20180915_122527 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I started out with the color of the wood
I did some testing using Mig productions washes
I tried dark wash , brown wash and wood aging
My choise was the brown was
But because i spilled some ca glue in the building stages i had to paint it first (washes can't hold on to smooth ca glue stains)
I used Vallejo modelcolor light brown for that
Once it was dry the wash was applied directly on the paint

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20180915_211353 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Once all the wooden pieces where done i made a test fitting of it all

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The side looking at the frontline

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The back wall

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An overall view
The stakes are for barbed wire
The treestump is just there to a fill in the other end
It could be blown up by a shell or by the soldiers so it wouldn't mark out their position

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20180915_215925 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Time to get dirty
The mud is made by mixing birdcage sand ,acrylic paint i had left ,white glue (pva glue) and a bit of water

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20180915_221928 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Covering everything

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It was added in a very random way but i made sure i had some holes in it to make puddles
In this photo those holes are easier to see then the previous photo

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I then added some barbed wire and a couple of pieces of seafoam to replicate pieces of roots sticking from the ground

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Some close ups of the scene

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After a day of drying the soil was dry and hard
So it was ready for the next step
I used Microscale Krystal clear to seal the holes
I will be using Vallejo still water and if you don't seal those holes it will sink through
But any PVA based glue or even CA glue will do the trick

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20180917_093402 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
After the glue had time to dry for a night i painted the soil using Vallejo modelcolor German camo black brown (the same color often used to make paint chipping on AFV's)
The paint was thinned a bit so you get a uneven coverage and not one solid color
That effect is not visible from the distance i had while taking this photo though

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20180917_121226 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I then mixed some of the paint with Vallejo still water
You don't need a lot of paint to color the water but it is nicer to give the first layer a bit of color
The second layer or if you want more layers will be clear
This gives the watery shine in the end

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20180917_121230 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And finally a close up of that last step
I also added some water in the trench but not that much
It is a trench and not a swimming pool
Later on i will be adding some other mud effects like mud stains and mud dripping down the sides from the last rain and stuff like that

But for now this base needs some time to rest
Well the water needs time to dry
I will be making a start on the figures but as their uniforms have the same colors as a bust i was working on months ago i decided to grab that as well and make sure i get most out of my paint by combing the efford of painting British uniforms
The colors in both WWI and WWII where either the same or very close to eachother and i have the nasty habbit of dumping too much paint on the pallet anyway

Thanks for stopping by
Take care
Cheers
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MarkVerploeg wrote: Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:48 am Hi guys
Time for a new update as there has been enough progres that i can't touch this build for a day ...the base anyway , i can work on the figures

So what happened since last time
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20180915_122527 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I started out with the color of the wood
I did some testing using Mig productions washes
I tried dark wash , brown wash and wood aging
My choise was the brown was
But because i spilled some ca glue in the building stages i had to paint it first (washes can't hold on to smooth ca glue stains)
I used Vallejo modelcolor light brown for that
Once it was dry the wash was applied directly on the paint

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20180915_211353 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Once all the wooden pieces where done i made a test fitting of it all

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20180915_211400 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
The side looking at the frontline

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20180915_211411 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
The back wall

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20180915_211419 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
An overall view
The stakes are for barbed wire
The treestump is just there to a fill in the other end
It could be blown up by a shell or by the soldiers so it wouldn't mark out their position

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20180915_215925 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Time to get dirty
The mud is made by mixing birdcage sand ,acrylic paint i had left ,white glue (pva glue) and a bit of water

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20180915_221928 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Covering everything

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20180915_221931 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
It was added in a very random way but i made sure i had some holes in it to make puddles
In this photo those holes are easier to see then the previous photo

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20180915_223440 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I then added some barbed wire and a couple of pieces of seafoam to replicate pieces of roots sticking from the ground

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20180915_223457 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
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20180915_223501 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
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20180915_223512 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
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20180915_223517 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
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20180915_223523 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Some close ups of the scene

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20180916_231729 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
After a day of drying the soil was dry and hard
So it was ready for the next step
I used Microscale Krystal clear to seal the holes
I will be using Vallejo still water and if you don't seal those holes it will sink through
But any PVA based glue or even CA glue will do the trick

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20180917_093402 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
After the glue had time to dry for a night i painted the soil using Vallejo modelcolor German camo black brown (the same color often used to make paint chipping on AFV's)
The paint was thinned a bit so you get a uneven coverage and not one solid color
That effect is not visible from the distance i had while taking this photo though

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20180917_121226 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I then mixed some of the paint with Vallejo still water
You don't need a lot of paint to color the water but it is nicer to give the first layer a bit of color
The second layer or if you want more layers will be clear
This gives the watery shine in the end

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20180917_121230 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And finally a close up of that last step
I also added some water in the trench but not that much
It is a trench and not a swimming pool
Later on i will be adding some other mud effects like mud stains and mud dripping down the sides from the last rain and stuff like that

But for now this base needs some time to rest
Well the water needs time to dry
I will be making a start on the figures but as their uniforms have the same colors as a bust i was working on months ago i decided to grab that as well and make sure i get most out of my paint by combing the efford of painting British uniforms
The colors in both WWI and WWII where either the same or very close to eachother and i have the nasty habbit of dumping too much paint on the pallet anyway

Thanks for stopping by
Take care
Cheers
Mark
I knew this was going to be good :th: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Thank you very much Kev
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This is looking awesome there mate :th: :th:
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Looking good and sloppy, mucky and yucky
I can't believe the conditions these guys fought in :ooops:
Some great progress :thumb2:
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gaz45 wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:31 am This is looking awesome there mate :th: :th:
Thank you very much Gaz
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:03 pm Looking good and sloppy, mucky and yucky
I can't believe the conditions these guys fought in :ooops:
Some great progress :thumb2:
Thank you very much Scott
They had to face some bad conditions indeed
Not just the shot up land but also disseaces like Spanish flu ,disytry and trench foot (among others)
On top of that a almost daily shower of artillery and mortar shells ,some with gas and people running towards you with rifles and bayonets
Not the best of times to say the least
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I' like the way you have tackled this and picked up a couple of pointers too....It's looking better every time I look :th: :th: :cheers2:
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digger303 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:40 am I' like the way you have tackled this and picked up a couple of pointers too....It's looking better every time I look :th: :th: :cheers2:
Thank you very much Digger
It is a fairly easy scene to build
But at this point i want to make the sand a bit lighter ,i find it too dark and i am working on the figures
So i hooe to post a new update in the next couple of days if i can find enough time to spend at the bench
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Loving the work so far. :th: :th:
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OOOOH turning into a :pop: build.
:th:
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barrythornton wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:18 am OOOOH turning into a :pop: build.
:th:
pourquoi61 wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:28 pm Loving the work so far. :th: :th:
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Superb work Mark - thanks for sharing the build process you went through with that it's really useful!
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Tomcat64 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:24 pm Superb work Mark - thanks for sharing the build process you went through with that it's really useful!
Thank you very much Neil
Glad that is helpfull
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Hi guys
I think it is time for a new update on this build as there has been quite a lot of progres the last couple of days

I will save the base for now and start with the figures as those had the catching up to do

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20180918_230507 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I started out with a base coat of base flesh light from Andrea

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20180918_231535 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Followed by the highlight wich is the lighter highlight color from Andrea

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20180918_232949 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
To get shadows and a bit of a healthier look i thinned some Vallejo skin wash and applied that
Making sure it was a bit thicker in the places that i wanted shadows to be

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20180922_124801 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Then it was time for the uniform wich is Vallejo English uniform

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20180924_145303 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Then the bags (and ammo pouches on the other figures) where base painted in stone grey while the leather parts where painted in leather brown

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20180924_145320 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
All basepainted figures together

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20180924_160605 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
The base color of the rifles is Vallejo's middlestone

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20180925_002515 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Wich then is given a coat of Vallejo smoke
The uniforms where drybrushed with some of the stone grey to highlight them but this photo was taken after i applied a gloss coat so it is hard to see
I did this because i wanted to use a wash again
This time for the shadows in the uniforms and to highlight some details in the soldiers gear

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20180926_120913 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
Once the brown wash (mig prod.) was dry i flat coated the figures with Ultra matte varnish by AK
And i added some gunslings made with a strip of leadfoil and a strip of paper


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20180926_121952 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
The slings where then painted with some leather brown

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20180926_123132 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
The barbed wire was given a rust wash to make it look a bit older and not brand new


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20180925_004428 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
The soil was given a new color by adding mig prod. dark mud pigments to the very dark soil
And the puddles where given a bit more water

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20180926_123134 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And the little dudes where placed in the trench

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20180926_123140 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
This is actually my favorite shot of the scene even though it completely hides one of the figures

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20180926_123146 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
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20180926_123150 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And some other views
As you can see the water is still not dry ,it should be as Vallejo says it takes 24 hours to dry but for some reason it takes longer this time and i only used a very thin layer not even close to the 2mm maximum the advise you to use

So when the water is finally dry i will be taking some final reveal shots
But at this point i think it is finished on my part
I don't plan on adding anything anymore and all that is left is something i can't help as that takes time to dry

So thanks for stopping by and having a look
Take care
Cheers
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Those figures look great :th:
I think I would certainly consider Master Box, they do subjects not found elsewhere.
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Superb work :clap:
This is going to be a fantastic display, very realistic :thumb1:
With a black and white sepia photo I bet it will be hard to tell if it wasn't an archival photo :think:
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It most certainly is going to be fantastic :th: :banana: :banana:
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barrythornton wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:54 pm Those figures look great :th:
I think I would certainly consider Master Box, they do subjects not found elsewhere.
Thank you
Masterbox has some nice figure kits and like you say a bit different then others
For the price they are pretty good allthough a resin head may add a bit of detail
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:17 pm Superb work :clap:
This is going to be a fantastic display, very realistic :thumb1:
With a black and white sepia photo I bet it will be hard to tell if it wasn't an archival photo :think:
Thank you very much
I will try that photo ,could be fun
Kevthemodeller wrote: Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:42 pm It most certainly is going to be fantastic :th: :banana: :banana:
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Really great work there mate it's looking awesome
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Thank you very much Gaz
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Fantastic work :th:
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Thank you very much Sheppsea
But the mud still proves to be a pain in the rear
It almost looks like the second layer reactivated the first layer and mixed
So it looks really dark and matte at the moment
Something i didn't want so now i am trying to figure out a way to improve it
My new plan is to seal the old layers with some paint(a color that i like) and varnish and use the water texture gel with some actuall water to thin it to make a smooth layer
But i never tested it that way so i don't know for sure if that will work
If not i will be digging out the old mud and start over with that bit
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All righty then
1 final unplanned update
The mud puddles didn't work out the way i wanted
It looked like the second layer reactivated the first as the second layer wich was just the Vallejo still water turned out identical to the first wich was mixed with some paint

So in the end i decided to use something that isn't acrylic based
After a quick check of my supplies i only found 1 product that was not acrylic and that was the damp and wet earth effects by Mig productions wich is basicly a thick glossy enamel clear coat

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20180929_103448 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
So this was the starting point

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20180929_105656 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
I then used some flat earth paint from Vallejo and applied that
Once dry i used a fairly stiff brush and a lot of water to get a very uneven finish
And again left that to dry

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20180929_145922 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And then the Mig prod. product was applied by filling up the puddles with this varnish
I used a disposable pipette for this and this makes it easier to apply the product without spilling it

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20180929_145937 by Mark Verploeg - Flickr2BBcode LITE
And then i could finally call it finished
It took about 4 days longer then planned but i really didn't like the muddy puddles i had the first 2 times

So that is the end of this build
I will post a full reveal in the reveal section
Thanks for stopping by and having a look
Take care
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Do you plan on making another entry for the GB? I think you have enough time and skill to bring another kit together whit details such as the puddles
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No, i think this will be the only one for me
I have a Panther that i am building that needs to be done by 15th of october for a group build on facebook and i just started a new build wich will take a while
It is the M911 tractor with the M747 trailer and a D9R bulldozer so that will take up most of my time at the bench
And i don't have a lot of WWI kits
Well 1 actually and that is a Albatros DV ,so that involves rigging
Not really my strongpoint
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Got those puddles sorted now and is she looking great. :th: :th: :th: :th:
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Looks great now!
It will be fantastic!!
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