revell 1:72 Handley Page Halifax mkI/II grII

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:06 am

so here is my entry for the 100 years of bombers group build
ther are several versions you can build using this kit
and i choose to build the mk.II version with the gunner position on the nose instead of the glass dome on the nose of the gr.II version
the version i'm going for is the one on the boxart
but i will toss in a bit of the planes history in the next update as i don't have it at the moment

here is the kit

the box art
i think it looks cool and loking at it i get the idea the american liberators are somewhat based on this aircraft
but i'm not sure if that is actually the case

the kit content

all the sprues
the sprues in the first photo are all suplied 2 times as one sprue covers one half of the plane

THE BUILD
i did get building right after opening and taking the sprueshots
and these are the steps i did

and this is what i got so far

i keep the small parts on sticks for painting
as i find this easyer and these parts have multiple colors or different colors then the parts the go on

after i did this i was going to the next step of the build wich is the fuselage halfs

this ask for some small holes to be made but after a look at the parts i found a bucketload of pinmarks so it was out with the putty and fill them

and this is where i left off
it takes about a day to dry and after that i will sand it down and paint the interior so i can continue this build

and that is all for now
i'll keep you updated on the progress
cheers Mark

Post by **Rodney** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:39 am

looks to be a nice kit lots off clear parts..

Post by **Mike00** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:27 am

Looks like a nice kit, can't wait to see it completed.

Post by **Joesdad** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:07 am

Great subject mate and a good start, looking forward like a lot of the lads.....

Tim

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:11 am

thanks guys
i'll get back to the halifax when i fixed the problem with photobucket
because i had the wisdom of moving all pics into albums so all my posted pics are gone and i have to edit all my posts
but right after that it is building time

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:15 am

Nice start dude.

Interesting subject too.

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:37 am

T3hGuppy wrote:Nice start dude.

Interesting subject too.

thanks dude
and i find one thing funny on this build
because a few days back.i posted that i did not decide wich kit to enter
chief sayed the halifax and all others who sayed interesting subject are all from the UK
so is it some national pride i detect here

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:52 am

MarkVerploeg wrote:
T3hGuppy wrote:Nice start dude.

Interesting subject too.
thanks dude
and i find one thing funny on this build
because a few days back.i posted that i did not decide wich kit to enter
chief sayed the halifax and all others who sayed interesting subject are all from the UK
so is it some national pride i detect here

Hell yeah lol.

I'm still looking for a kit to enter but would love a British subject.

Post by **muskegman** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:58 am

Nice kit. I built this same kit about 2 years ago and was very impressed with how it went together, no fit issues that I remember. I decided to go with the coastal command colours on mine as I thought the white colour really looked impressive. Best of luck with your build.

Mark

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:39 pm

muskegman wrote:Nice kit. I built this same kit about 2 years ago and was very impressed with how it went together, no fit issues that I remember. I decided to go with the coastal command colours on mine as I thought the white colour really looked impressive. Best of luck with your build.

Mark

thanks
good to know that is has no fit issues
i'm going for the dark one that is used for night time bombing mission
cheers Mark

Post by **ModelingMatt** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:58 pm

Looks like a good start, after seeing your kit pics I pretty sure I'll looking for one for my stash.

Post by **Jamesday1998** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:31 pm

looks great so far! lol were doing the same kit but ill be doing the grII version!

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:53 pm

thanks guys

Jamesday1998 wrote:looks great so far! lol were doing the same kit but ill be doing the grII version!

oh then you may lnow what the holes in the front are for
i mean those on the sides by the little windows
cheers Mark

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:21 pm

and here i have the first update on my Halifax build
and as promised i have a bit of history on this early war bomber

specifications on the mkII version
crew : 7
lenght : 21,36 meter
wingspan : 30,12 meter
wingsurface : 111,48 square meters
weight empty : 16.320 kg
weight max : 24.950 kg
cruising speed: 325 kmh
speed max : about 440 kmh
payload : 5897 kg max.
engine power : 1390 bhp per engine
protection:
2 browning 7,7 mm machineguns in the nose
4 browning 7,7 mm machineguns in the tail
2 browning 7,7 mm machineguns on the back
2 7,7 mm vickers k machineguns in the side portholes

in the Original design that was made by the handley page design team lead by George Volkert
the bomber was equipt with 2 rolls royce vulture engines this was in 1935
but the RAF asked for more power and use of parts that where lready in use with the armed forces
on that note they decided to use the rolls royce merlin engines
this ofcource is the infamous 27.000 cc supercharged V 12 engine that is regarded as the best engine of the second world war
also they upgraded from 2 to 4 engines
the production of the Halifax started in 1940 and at the end of production they build a total of about 6.100 units
the Halifax was used by Polish,free French,Canadian,Australian and New Zealand squadrons operating in the Royal Air Force
in UK use they where operated by the RAF and the Costal Command

and this is how the build is coming along

after the last post i started painting the interior the colors are my own mixes as i use tamiya paints and the kit only shows revell offerings
for the green i used a 70/30 mix of dark green and dark yellow
for the grey i used 70/30 mix of panzer grey and black this also could be 60/40
i mixed by eye and did not really messure the mixes
the details are painted with Vallejo colors conform the given colors
after this was dry i applied some dark wash by mig productions
after that was cleaned up i dry brushed the control panels using some gun metal from Vallejo

i did not really liked the decal for the pilots instrument panel i left it of and decided to go with just the dry brushing

the test fitting of the fuselage

the landing gear bays ready made for later use

a second test fit at this point the fuselage and wings are glued but not to eachother

after this i went on with the construction of the wings as there are a lot of smaller parts on the engines and wing tips

a close up on the engines
the engine parts have one down side and that is that they are easy to get miss alined and you end up with a big seem line

after that i placed the the air intakes and exhausts

the steering sufaces are also added wich are still moveable

and some inside views of the landing gear bays

i did not post all the building instructions in this thread as there are 99 building steps and almost all just let you work about 3 parts
so i decided that such a action would be kind of boring to see

and that is where i'm at right now
so if you have questions,comments or tips and tricks
don't hold them back and share them
as i did not build a plane in some 5 or 6 years this is a big learning process
so i hope you like it and until next time
cheers Mark

Post by **DBMiller** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:41 am

Wow, your kit has a real cockpit.

Mine has some bits of plastic.

I'm jealous.

Post by **Jamesday1998** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:07 pm

looks awesome! you've done a great job on the cockpit!

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:37 pm

The paintwork on the coskpit looks very nice indeed.

The rest is really coming together well.

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:47 pm

thank you gentlemen
and it is a real.fast build indeed
all.the instructions call.for just 2 or 3 parts.to be added so go trouhh them real fast
real fast when i compare it to my sws build that statted a weak earlyer and i.just started painting that
cheers Mark

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:45 am

well i think it is time for a update
and this is what i have done untill now

at the point where i left off last time there was still some building of major parts like these

the nice thing is the steering surface are workable after you glue the wing to the fuselage

here it is in place

here the building of the bomber is almost done and all the parts are on the fuselage and wings
the parts that are missing at this the props and the glass but they are beeing masked
wich as a armor builder don't really enjoy because normally i don't have big clear parts so i don't mask things

bit of a close up of the wing

the props ready for paint

some pre shading also something i normally don't do
so it doesn't look very nice as i found out it is pretty hard to make a free hand straight line with a airbrush

and this is the bottom color the instructions state that you have to use revell's tar black but i used tamiya flat black and panzer grey for this
and i mixed this in a 90 to 10 ratio to make it a bit dull or pale if you will

and that is where i'm at right now
this kit goes together pretty fast and looks ok i think altough there probably will be better kits on either this subject and other planes
so i hope you like it
and untill next time
cheers Mark

Post by **SiDennis** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:54 am

Cracking build so far mate, I know what you mean about the pre-shading, I don't normally do it, when I have tried in the past it didn't go to well

Going to give it a shot on my Valiant, I bet I doesn't look as good as yours

Post by **patrickroos** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:32 am

Wow, really great progress!!
Looking good!

Post by **generalgrog** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:59 pm

Looking really good so far..going to be fantastic looking when done I can tell allready!!

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:04 pm

thanks gentlemen
and

generalgrog wrote:Looking really good so far..going to be fantastic looking when done I can tell allready!!

thanks for the vote of confedance

i just finished masking the clear parts wich i didn't really found enjoyable
and then i can go on with the paint
cheers Mark

http://m.youtube.com/user/MrBobsBuilds · Post by **Rob** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:16 pm

That's great progress on the bomber. It's looking really good

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:00 pm

thanks Rob
there are a lot of small things you have to do on a plane
i didn't realize that and thought it would be a bit more easy to build a plane (as i build armor most of the time)
but when this is done i just might go for a second entry but in a bigger scale
because this masking it really drives me crazy but it is doneand the carpetmonster has eaten my antanna support and a pitot tube on this one as it is all so small so i hope a bigger scale solves that and it should be a bit easyer to work on as i learned quite a bit from this build like the do's and don'ts but i will get the bigger one only if i think the price is right as they cost a lot and i want good value for my cash
but we will see this one is not done yet
cheers Mark

Post by **DBMiller** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:47 pm

Already painting? You work so fast! This is going to look super!

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:02 pm

DBMiller wrote:Already painting? You work so fast! This is going to look super!

let's say i have a bit to much free time on my hand right now

by the way when do i remove the masking tape ?
because if it is up to me i remove it when all the paint has the time to dry or is there a better time to do that?
cheers Mark

Post by **Rodney** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:30 pm

Well ur flying right along

looks like a great build think im going to look for one to do myself

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 5:04 pm

Rodney wrote:Well ur flying right along looks like a great build think im going to look for one to do myself

you could do that this kit was not that expensive,i believe about 25 euro and it goes together pretty fast without any big fit issues
the only thing to look out for is the parts that hold the engines they are a biy harder to do but that is.all
there is a lot of masking though with all those small windows on the gunners positions
cheers Mark

Post by **Nige201980** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:17 am

Looks great so far buddy

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:16 pm

Nige201980 wrote:Looks great so far buddy

thank you
well i'm trying to finish the build as i'm getting a mad from it
because i keep snapping of parts and the paint is a bit to delicate
it keeps getting scratches so i want to get it in a clear coat today and maybe start with the decals
but we'll see
cheers Mark

Post by **muskegman** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:36 pm

Looks great so far

Mark

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:21 pm

thank you

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:03 pm

hi guys
i'm back with my new update on the Halifax build

i have most of the building behind me and paint is done completly
i still need to place the 2 teardrop windows on the sides and the lights on the wingtips
so here is what i've been up to

the main colors and camo
i'm sorry for lacking to make a picture of the build when it was in the masking tape
the brown was made with a mix of tamiya flat earth and red brown in a 30/50 ratio
the green is tamiya dark green wich is only thinned for spraying
as you can see the paint is damaged in several spots
this was my own fault as i had very little primer left and made the rather stupid decicion of thinning the primer (Vallejo's offering wich was decanted from the spraycan)
this has the result that the paintlayer wich is very thin aswell was very fragile

over here i masked of the edges of the wings for the yellow edge it will recieve
this has to be done on both the up and down side of the wings

in this pic i painted the insides of the bombbay and wheelwells
after it was dry i masked them off so i can fix the damaged paint on the underside of the wings and hull
also the masking for the yellow is removed

the patched up lower parts

the painted gunner positions
the masking of these parts was a lot of work with all those small windows

the patched up upper side

the antenna cables wich go from the front to the back
these are made with streched sprue and then are painted with Vallejo black
it also received a clear coat so i can't damage the paint any more

i made my fair share of mistakes so far and i was expecting that i would
but she is ready for the decals at the moment
so i'll see when i start that and she could use a couple of washes and some rust for the exhaust
and that is all i have for now
so i hope you like it and if you have any comments,questions or anything of the kind just shoot away
and i'll reply as soon as possible
cheers Mark

Post by **Nige201980** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:09 pm

Quick work mate really stunning paint job and you can't tell you had to patch her up.

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:15 pm

Nige201980 wrote:Quick work mate really stunning paint job and you can't tell you had to patch her up.

plain and dumb luck as i did the patching with the same paints as for the airbrush but then used a hairy stick so there was no more masking involved
but some in some places it is visible if you lok closely or under the right light
but thanks for the comment
cheers

https://www.youtube.com/user/bnealuk · Post by **T3hGuppy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:29 pm

She really looks great dude.

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:52 pm

thank you mr guppy
i will try to continue this build somewhere this week
but i want to finish the interior of the sws first as that is sitting on the bench at the moment
and then i can post a new update on that
and once that is done i get back to the bomber and hopefully finish it sometime soon
but it still needs its decals and i'm not really looking forward to that task because there are quite some that need to go on there
but we will see how things go a long
cheers Mark

Post by **Jamesday1998** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:07 pm

wow you've done some quick work on this i am only on the undercarriage! your paint job is amazing! great work i just hope mine will turn out half as good as yours!

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:28 pm

thanks mate
when you get to the bigger parts it will go fast
and be prepared that you can snap the small parts off very easy
as for the camo i used 40 mm wide masking tape and tahen i copyed the camo with a pencil before i used a knife
this makes it a bit easyer
cheers Mark

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:14 pm

hello to all
here is my new update on my Halifax build
altough not a very happy one this time
but we'll get to that later
lasty time the Halifax was ready for the decals
so that is what i started this time

a bit of nose art allthough a bit unclear here
it resembles a train with bombs and the tekst Ruhr valley express a bit of humor from back in the day i guess

a view of the entire plane with the decals
something went wrong on the clear coat i think since the decals moved to easy and won't make full contact so i had a lt of silvering wich doesn't go a way even with micro sol and set
but i did managed to get it back to a minimum

then it was time for a wash i used mig dark wash on top and nutral wash on the lower part
this was then mostly removed with ak odourless thinner

this is the result after cleaning of the wash

and then it was time for the matt varnish and then this was the result

it seems that there was a chemical reaction since the entire surface of the wing turned white when it dried and when i removed the white powderlike coat that was on the wing this was what was left
so after about 10 minutes of very bad words and a near mental meltdown i put this aside
i think this is able to be restored but it will take some effort and probably some more cursing
i also tossed the clear i had in the bin since this is not the result i want
because my plane looks like the terminator with half it's face blown off
but there is nothing i can do about it now
so this is all i have for now
cheers Mark

http://www.youtube.com/user/Trainboy153 · Post by **Trainboy153** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:54 am

oooh, that wing..... You could make a crash diorama where it went down and destroyed that entire wing.

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:58 am

Trainboy153 wrote:oooh, that wing..... You could make a crash diorama where it went down and destroyed that entire wing.

could be an idea but i'm going to try and fix it
it means i have to mask off a lot again but i think it will be worth the effort
and i'm going to set it aside for a couple of days just to clear my head a bit
and then i'll give it another go
cheers Mark

http://m.youtube.com/user/MrBobsBuilds · Post by **Rob** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:22 am

Oh my goodness, what a horror story! I'm sure you will get the better of it in the end

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:39 am

Rob wrote:Oh my goodness, what a horror story! I'm sure you will get the better of it in the end

thanks for the support Rob
i think she will turn up ok in the end

Post by **Paul** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:21 am

Crap that's not good, what clear was it?

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:28 am

Paul wrote:Crap that's not good, what clear was it?

johnsons clear for a gloss coat and tamiya flat
it was kind of spooky to see it dry and turn white but it won't happen again
i tossed them in the bin after i tested it again on a blanc piece of styrene
and i think it's the thinner that caused it but i'm not sure

Post by **Paul** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:31 am

MarkVerploeg wrote:
Paul wrote:Crap that's not good, what clear was it?
johnsons clear for a gloss coat and tamiya flat
it was kind of spooky to see it dry and turn white but it won't happen again
i tossed them in the bin after i tested it again on a blanc piece of styrene
and i think it's the thinner that caused it but i'm not sure

Tamiya flat isn't a clear coat, it's to add to paint to make it flatter, that's why it dried white.

Post by **ScaleModelling1105** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:16 am

Everyone has made the mistake of using tamiya flat as a clear coat as it's not as Paul said. I think it's tamiya x-86 that's the matt coat. Even though it's x and not xf i think it's still matt.

Post by **MarkVerploeg** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:29 am

oooohhhh
i didn't know that but is it normal that it eats up my paint?
but thanks for the information gents