Spitfire Mk.IIa, Messerschmitt BF109E-4 or P-51D Mustang?

[UKguyInUSA]

Guys, I'm just wondering what everyone else's views are regarding their most favorite choice of plane to model if they had a choice of either a Supermarine Spitfire Mk.IIa, a Messerschmitt BF109E-4, or a P-51D Mustang? And, out of the three aircraft, which is their most favorite and why?!

I love all three aircraft, so it makes for an extremely difficult choice to choose one, although the Spitfire was first with the Rolls Royce Merlin engines and the P-51D Mustang adopted them.....hmmm?!

Cheers,

Martin

[Neils]

For beauty, the spitfire, for menace the Me-109 and for Bling P51-D.

[UKguyInUSA]

For beauty, the spitfire, for menace the Me-109 and for Bling B51-D.

I like that reasoning! The Spit surely is a beautiful airplane that has a timeless design that stirs the emotions.

[ScaleModelling1105]

Well... being British i'd have to go with the spit for three reasons:
1. It's probably one of the best looking aircraft of all time imo, it's curves are beautiful
2. At airshows the engines sound so nice
3. Most iconic prop plane ever tbh

That said I do love the me109 and the p51 but id probably go with me109 next as I prefer the camo

[UKguyInUSA]

Well... being British i'd have to go with the spit for three reasons:
1. It's probably one of the best looking aircraft of all time imo, it's curves are beautiful
2. At airshows the engines sound so nice
3. Most iconic prop plane ever tbh

That said I do love the me109 and the p51 but id probably go with me109 next as I prefer the camo

I think I have to agree to everything that you state here...the sound of those Merlin's is memorable, and I too love the Luftwaffe Camo schemes and colors.

Cheers,

Martin

[tachikoma]

None of the above. They're all missing an engine.

[UKguyInUSA]

Funny!

[Paul]

P-51 all day long

[UKguyInUSA]

P-51 all day long

Because of all the different schemes to choose from?

[Paul]

P-51 all day long

Because of all the different schemes to choose from?

Just because it a beautiful looking and sounding bird, theres not much better than that supercharger whine

[UKguyInUSA]

P-51 all day long

Because of all the different schemes to choose from?

Just because it a beautiful looking and sounding bird, theres not much better than that supercharger whine

Yeah, those yanks did upgrade the engine to make it the most formidable fighter of WW.II by adding the Supercharger.

[Neils]

Reminds me of this quote from the P51 wiki page
"Chief Naval Test Pilot and C.O. Captured Enemy Aircraft Flight Capt. Eric Brown, CBE, DSC, AFC, RN, tested the Mustang at RAE Farnborough in March 1944, and noted, "The Mustang was a good fighter and the best escort due to its incredible range, make no mistake about it. It was also the best American dogfighter. But the laminar flow wing fitted to the Mustang could be a little tricky. It could not by no means out-turn a Spitfire [sic]. No way. It had a good rate-of-roll, better than the Spitfire, so I would say the plusses to the Spitfire and the Mustang just about equate. If I were in a dogfight, I'd prefer to be flying the Spitfire. The problem was I wouldn't like to be in a dogfight near Berlin, because I could never get home to Britain in a Spitfire!"

[UKguyInUSA]

Reminds me of this quote from the P51 wiki page
"Chief Naval Test Pilot and C.O. Captured Enemy Aircraft Flight Capt. Eric Brown, CBE, DSC, AFC, RN, tested the Mustang at RAE Farnborough in March 1944, and noted, "The Mustang was a good fighter and the best escort due to its incredible range, make no mistake about it. It was also the best American dogfighter. But the laminar flow wing fitted to the Mustang could be a little tricky. It could not by no means out-turn a Spitfire [sic]. No way. It had a good rate-of-roll, better than the Spitfire, so I would say the plusses to the Spitfire and the Mustang just about equate. If I were in a dogfight, I'd prefer to be flying the Spitfire. The problem was I wouldn't like to be in a dogfight near Berlin, because I could never get home to Britain in a Spitfire!"

Thanks for sharing that quote, I've never read that before and it makes some poignant statements to contemplate.

Cheers!

Martin

[martin57]

hi for me its the p51 good looking kit when its made, lots of coulerfull markings to choose from and looks cool on the shelf . but having said that everbody should have one or all three on the shelf . but what about the old war hoarse the hurricane great plane love watching it at airshows .

[UKguyInUSA]

hi for me its the p51 good looking kit when its made, lots of coulerfull markings to choose from and looks cool on the shelf . but having said that everbody should have one or all three on the shelf . but what about the old war hoarse the hurricane great plane love watching it at airshows .

The Hurricane is a nice plane, and sadly doesn't get recognized like the Spitfire for putting the Battle into the "Battle of Britain" shooting down more enemy fighters than the Spits, in fact they accounted for 60% of the "kills"!

[HistoryRider]

P-51D! The Mustang is and has been the most iconic fighter plane ever built, IMHO. Helped win the war! And even though I LOVE radials, the Packard-Merlin or Rolls Royce engine of the Mustang have no sound equal to them.


Plus, it looks sexy!!

[ROBOPAUL]

The P51 looks amazing in NMF and yes it does sound amazing. But come on guys the most iconic fighter bar none, it is the SPITFIRE every time especially for those of us from UNION JACK land IMHO.

[UKguyInUSA]

P-51D! The Mustang is and has been the most iconic fighter plane ever built, IMHO. Helped win the war! And even though I LOVE radials, the Packard-Merlin or Rolls Royce engine of the Mustang have no sound equal to them.


Plus, it looks sexy!!

My wife looks sexy, but if I had to choose between a photo of her, or a photo of a Spitfire in my office....the Spit wins hands down! Hence my avatar!

[UKguyInUSA]

The P51 looks amazing in NMF and yes it does sound amazing. But come on guys the most iconic fighter bar none, it is the SPITFIRE every time especially for those of us from UNION JACK land IMHO.

Those are fighting words.....I think we have some bias going on depending on which side of the pond we're in. I'm in the USA, but just check my avatar!

[chief5437]

Without a doubt it the spitfire, best looking by a country mile. Market is flooded with german kits including 109, and p-51 was pretty poor til it got merlin engines! Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with p-51, could be that there are more surviving examples out there? Same goes for b-17s, but that's just my two pennoth!

[UKguyInUSA]

Without a doubt it the spitfire, best looking by a country mile. Market is flooded with german kits including 109, and p-51 was pretty poor til it got merlin engines! Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with p-51, could be that there are more surviving examples out there? Same goes for b-17s, but that's just my two pennoth!

The P-51's look more like show planes rather than war-planes, with their shiny bare metal surfaces and bright colored spinners, noses, wing tips and rudders when compared to the three color camo-schemes of the spits.

[Neils]

Always thought the P51 colour schemes were all like 'We own the skies now, so we cba with all that camouflage nonsense'

[Joesdad]

Spit for me Martin, the 109 was proberly the better of the two and the P51 better firepower and range but the old Spitfire was the only aircraft to be produced/developed through out the war.

[Paul]

Without a doubt it the spitfire, best looking by a country mile. Market is flooded with german kits including 109, and p-51 was pretty poor til it got merlin engines! Maybe it's just me, but I don't get the fascination with p-51, could be that there are more surviving examples out there? Same goes for b-17s, but that's just my two pennoth!

The P-51's look more like show planes rather than war-planes, with their shiny bare metal surfaces and bright colored spinners, noses, wing tips and rudders when compared to the three color camo-schemes of the spits.

They weren't shiny during service, they need to be kept polished to maintain that shine, in service they would have been faded dull looking aircraft.

[UKguyInUSA]

Always thought the P51 colour schemes were all like 'We own the skies now, so we cba with all that camouflage nonsense'

Oh my! This thread has stirred some patriotic emotions mixed with "fighting talk", If this continues, I'm afraid Paul or Lee will remove this thread before passion gets the better of us all! ; )~

[Paul]

Always thought the P51 colour schemes were all like 'We own the skies now, so we cba with all that camouflage nonsense'

Oh my! This thread has stirred some patriotic emotions mixed with "fighting talk", If this continues, I'm afraid Paul or Lee will remove this thread before passion gets the better of us all! ; )~

If everyone keeps slating the P-51 i will

Enjoy my avatar btw

P-51's for the win

[UKguyInUSA]

Always thought the P51 colour schemes were all like 'We own the skies now, so we cba with all that camouflage nonsense'

Oh my! This thread has stirred some patriotic emotions mixed with "fighting talk", If this continues, I'm afraid Paul or Lee will remove this thread before passion gets the better of us all! ; )~

If everyone keeps slating the P-51 i will

Enjoy my avatar btw

P-51's for the win

I think we should count the number of votes for each plane on this thread to decide the winner! I'm not seeing any vote for the BF109E, a few for the P-51 but a lot for the Spits!

[Joesdad]

Don't get me wrong lads, I love a Mustang but they didn't do this...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=spitf ... Fmza6qM%3A

[Neils]

Don't get me wrong lads, I love a Mustang but they didn't do this...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=spitf ... Fmza6qM%3A

I think this wins the thread:) esp if you use these aftermarket parts on your model http://www.profimodeller.com/detail/320 ... -spitfire/

[mo0g]

Two words; gull wing.

The lines on the spitfire are simply beautiful and what make kids fall in love with it.

[UKguyInUSA]

Don't get me wrong lads, I love a Mustang but they didn't do this...

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=spitf ... Fmza6qM%3A

Wow! That's pretty cool... one learns something new every day. Gives me an idea for a business venture to retire to in the south of England when I leave the USA!

[UKguyInUSA]

Spit for me Martin, the 109 was proberly the better of the two and the P51 better firepower and range but the old Spitfire was the only aircraft to be produced/developed through out the war.

That's true, and with each new mark that was released there were improvements, and without the British designed RR Merlin, the P-51 wouldn't have been as awesome as it was.

[Darkblade88]

Now to put the cat among the pigeons I prefer the Hurricane and the Fairy Swordfish

[Joesdad]

Mossie....? Beau.....? Oh no!

[Johni044]

All great planes each had strengths and weaknesses. The big advantages were in the way they were deployed, the tactics used and the training given. I think any of them in the hands of an experienced pilot would win an encounter in any of the others in the hands of a novice.

[UKguyInUSA]

Now to put the cat among the pigeons I prefer the Hurricane and the Fairy Swordfish

That's a different topic, we got to stay focused on these three....no going off at tangents!

The Hurricane is a superb plane, though and was a formidable performer in the B of B.
Cheers,

Martin

[UKguyInUSA]

Mossie....? Beau.....? Oh no!

We can't discuss those! FB's are a new topic that we can discuss in another thread....hey, maybe you start that one?! Choose three aircraft to discuss people's favorites and why?

I love both those choices and presently building my first "Mossie"....Tamiya 1/48 FB Mk.VI....it's a fabulous kit

Here's my latest video update to where I'm at;

Cheers,

Martin

[UKguyInUSA]

All great planes each had strengths and weaknesses. The big advantages were in the way they were deployed, the tactics used and the training given. I think any of them in the hands of an experienced pilot would win an encounter in any of the others in the hands of a novice.

Agreed