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Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:05 pm
by Joesdad
A new build for me, I'm hoping to rattle through quite sharpish.

Here's my review of the kit...

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Hopefully the following pictures will be self-explanatory, if you have any questions please fire away..

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Not bad detail on the cockpit sidewall

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Oh dear!!

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Detail painting before construction, something an armour Modeller doesn't have to worry about...

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I've had this unopened bottle of MIG for about two years now, my only one..

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This is the nose wheel bay all in bits...

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Some seat stuff..

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Moving on to the engine..

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See you soon lads :D

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:19 pm
by IanG
Great start. Cockpit's coming along nicely.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:22 pm
by Joesdad
IanG wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:19 pm Great start. Cockpit's coming along nicely.
Cheers Ian :th:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:44 pm
by Joesdad
Cracking on with it....

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You can certainly see bad paintwork close up :crazy:

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Wish I had a decent camera :roll:

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Fuselage going together...

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I thought I'd colour in the main landing gear bay

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Wings next, motoring on...

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No fit issues yet...

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Working folding wings!

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My very own Gundam :dance:

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Brilliant :wall: what a t**t!

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We'll see what it's like after a prime..

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Air intakes after some paint, weather, and mask..

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Landing gear bay after paint, weather and matte...

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First fit problem. Had to trim some material to get the wing/fuselage fitting nicely (dry)

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Where we stand now..

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Phew!
Back soon..

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:37 am
by IanG
I had the same problem with the fit on that top fuselage/wing section. I thought it was because of the CWS resin correction set, but it seems to the kit itself.
Good progress :)

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:49 pm
by Joesdad
IanG wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:37 am I had the same problem with the fit on that top fuselage/wing section. I thought it was because of the CWS resin correction set, but it seems to the kit itself.
Good progress :)
I think it is the air intakes are set back a gnats chuff too far, after some sanding and shaving we're good to go..
Cheers Ian

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:11 pm
by jelliott
I had the same exact problem on the Trumpeter Mig 23MF Flogger-B kit. So it is definitely something with the molds for the Mig 23 series of aircraft. I had to shave and thin the main gear housing to get it to fit "somewhat" properly. I was still left with a small gap that I filled with Perfect Plastic Putty and it looked better.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:21 pm
by Joesdad
jelliott wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:11 pm I had the same exact problem on the Trumpeter Mig 23MF Flogger-B kit. So it is definitely something with the molds for the Mig 23 series of aircraft. I had to shave and thin the main gear housing to get it to fit "somewhat" properly. I was still left with a small gap that I filled with Perfect Plastic Putty and it looked better.
Yeah Jelli it's no biggie but couldn't work out for the life of me what it was!

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:42 pm
by jelliott
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Not trying to hijack your thread by any means, but here is a shot of the MF Flogger-B that I'm finishing up. Hard to see the area here.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:37 pm
by Avgas
Good work so far.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:08 pm
by Joesdad
Thanks chaps

A little more. Canopy masked, tho it's a bit rough! Cockpit colour applied and waiting for primer..

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After that I'd thought I better have a go at some weapons
Oh jeez!!! I thought decalling was bad enough..

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The final result...

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:crazy:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:09 am
by arilo76
Hi Tim
really liking your progress, One question how is fitting of the kit? appart the part that you had to sand down the back of the wings.
Thanks

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:52 pm
by Joesdad
arilo76 wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:09 am Hi Tim
really liking your progress, One question how is fitting of the kit? appart the part that you had to sand down the back of the wings.
Thanks
Hi Antonio,
Kits fits good, the join where the nose fits on to the fuselage needs some attention and you have to be careful aolround the air intakes but other than that going good. Weapons though are getting boring...

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:15 pm
by arilo76
Joesdad wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:52 pm Hi Antonio,
Kits fits good, the join where the nose fits on to the fuselage needs some attention and you have to be careful aolround the air intakes but other than that going good. Weapons though are getting boring...
Thanks Tim
I know i hate doing weapons, i will added to my wish list in Scalemates :lol:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:28 pm
by Joesdad
A tiny bit more.
After a black prime, I've got the bombs all painted and Clear coted. Next is too wash the little buggers. I've tried to mottle and vary the paint on them, tho you probably can't see it very well. The silver looks awful

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Started on the main camo, then got fed up with it.. I'll try again later..

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TTFN

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:52 pm
by Joesdad
Some time later....

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And re-sprayed whatever they are, much better..

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A wash applied to the racks and bombs..

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Just need a full cote...

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More camo work...

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Wheels..

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Back in a bit..

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:57 pm
by Joesdad
Phew! Thought I lost these snaps

Undersides. The colour is more blue in real life..

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Close-up..

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TTFN

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:52 pm
by ElCapitan
Looks great so far Tim

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:46 am
by arilo76
Tim that is some really great paint work and the weapons i really like the weathering on them, well done!! one question the wheel what did you use, they are really cool.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:08 pm
by Elve1984
Great looking Mig, intresting color scheme.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:32 am
by Joesdad
arilo76 wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:46 am Tim that is some really great paint work and the weapons i really like the weathering on them, well done!! one question the wheel what did you use, they are really cool.
Hi Tony, thanks mate. Tamiya rubber black, for the rims I used one of them plastic circle template things and to finish a little dry brush. Hope that helps

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:33 am
by Joesdad
Thanks chaps :banana:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:55 am
by arilo76
Joesdad wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:32 am Hi Tony, thanks mate. Tamiya rubber black, for the rims I used one of them plastic circle template things and to finish a little dry brush. Hope that helps
Thanks Tim :th:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:38 am
by rwsmith14
she's looking good.. looks like she'll have a full loadout.. NIce !

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:22 pm
by Joesdad
Decaling time :dance:

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Phew! That was easy....

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All ready for some AquqGloss...

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Ah! Sorry about the photo :nena: I had to stay like that till it was dry :roll:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:46 am
by arilo76
Tim that is looking really nice.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 5:07 pm
by Joesdad
Now the Flogger has dried, it's time to apply a wash, namely an oil wash. Homemade, dark brown/black oil mix thinned the odourless sprits

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Tailplanes..

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The right hand (as you look) has been washed, left hand not...

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Photobucket has decided to pack up on me, we'll have continue later :wall:

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:23 pm
by Goose
nice job mate!!!

love it

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:36 pm
by ElCapitan
That looks great Tim, the wash makes all the difference!

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:59 pm
by Joesdad
Thanks guys, but I did mean to post up the following but Photobucket decided to have a breakdown :wall:

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Coming to the end of this one....

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:44 pm
by Elve1984
That wash really makes the detail pop out. what sort of Gloss coat did ya use under it?

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:32 am
by arilo76
Really nice work Tim, definitely the wash made all the details stand out.

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:01 pm
by Joesdad
Elve1984 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:44 pm That wash really makes the detail pop out. what sort of Gloss coat did ya use under it?
Hi Elve, it was Alclad AquaGloss and very good it is too..

arilo76 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:32 am Really nice work Tim, definitely the wash made all the details stand out.
Thanks bud. I like the way that an oil wash slightly filters down the paint, makes it look really grubby..

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:54 pm
by Elve1984
Joesdad wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:01 pm
Elve1984 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:44 pm That wash really makes the detail pop out. what sort of Gloss coat did ya use under it?
Hi Elve, it was Alclad AquaGloss and very good it is too..
I use that aswell, but it have the idea it doesn't dry rock hard or softens again when i apply a wash. how long do you let it dry before you apply the wash?

and what sort of wash do you use? wich paint and thinner?

Re: Trumpeter 1:48 MiG 23BN Flogger H

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:52 pm
by Joesdad
Elve1984 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:54 pm
Joesdad wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:01 pm
Elve1984 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:44 pm That wash really makes the detail pop out. what sort of Gloss coat did ya use under it?
Hi Elve, it was Alclad AquaGloss and very good it is too..
I use that aswell, but it have the idea it doesn't dry rock hard or softens again when i apply a wash. how long do you let it dry before you apply the wash?

and what sort of wash do you use? wich paint and thinner?

I've just started a new bottle, I believe they may have altered the formula so the jury is out. Having said that I've had no problems yet, sets rock hard. Usually leave 24hrs and this wash is an oil wash using odourless sprit's.
Hope ok for you Elve