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Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:52 am
by longlance67
Hi All,


This is the first thread I've tried in this format, my goal is to make a serious of threads discussing how to weather or paint certain things, I no expert on weathering but hope that someone may find this useful and as long as someone comes away learning something then I'm happy. For this project we will be weathering a SD.KFZ 251/1 AUSF C Hanomag in 28mm (1/56th) by Warlord Games

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the kit is very beginner friendly with few parts and manageable details, as it is for war gaming some details are omitted so some more experienced modelers may want to add these with plastic stock but for this thread we will not worry ourselves with these. In this we will cover: painting Camo (this will be part of my Krusk themed battlegroup for the game), decals and weathering and a bit of stowage. I will be my best to be as clear as possible but never be afraid to ask me if you want to know more :)

what I will be using:
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Matt Varnish
AK Interactive Dust*
MIG Rust*
MIG European Earth*
Citadel Seraphim Sepia (to be use a filter)
Citadel Agrax Earthshade (wash)
MIG Shadow Brown Oil (pin washes)
Brunt Umber
Brunt Sienna
Tamiya Weathering Mater Set A*
Graphite Pencil
Static Grass
PVA Glue

* the pigments could be alternatively made from artist calks bought in a art shop, ground into a dust and mixed with matt varnish
* acrylic paints can be swapped with oils if you have them

So this is the first part of the project

I hope you like this setup, and we'll have a lot of fun which is above all is the most important part of our hobby,

see you in the next step :)

Shane.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:57 am
by garywintin
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Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:59 am
by longlance67
No pressure so buddy


thanks man :)


Shane.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:21 am
by Coen
No... no pressure.:boom:


seriously though... I have no idea how to use those products. I make all my own.
I want to learn about them so this is a great thing Shane... Thanks for setting this up.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:29 am
by longlance67
double no pressure hahah

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:40 am
by garywintin
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:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:14 am
by Coen
:rofl: :rofl:

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:28 pm
by Lee
We're all watching you...

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Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:58 pm
by Dunhill2005
I'm watching you! If necessary without sleep ... ;)
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Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:45 pm
by garywintin
hmmm ... I probably shouldn't have posted my very first meme.. LOL ... but hey, it's fun :P ...

and remember, no pressure :P

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:10 pm
by longlance67
gary you created a monster hahahaha

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:17 pm
by Coen
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:47 pm
by longlance67
right with so many watching eyes waiting for this its to begin,then lets us commence
with the running gear and molded on tracks:

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firstly everything was primed in black, then Vallejo German C. Beige was added to the wheels and the green tone from Life Colors German Camo set 1 was painted onto one of the wheels to add some color and interest. The tacks were painted a dark brown shade and rudder track pads and wheel rims were picked out with flat black

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then I began to weather the leading edges of the tracks with Vallejo oily steel

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then it was on to the fun part, adding chips and scratches to the road wheels, for this I used Vallejo Grey Green, AK's chipping paint (any black brown shade will do) and also would change the shades by lightening and darkening the main colors to add visual interest to the effect. There a few different ways to this, I will be using both in this thread, and both are right depending how battered you want your model to be......personally I'm gonna weather the balls out of mine !

So for add the chips for the wheels I used a small piece of sponge cut jagged, remember you remove about 90% of the paint from the sponge as if you were doing a dry brush, in weathering subtlety is name of the game, then I an random manner steeple the the sponge on the wheel surfaces

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you can then go in with a very brush to pick out further scratches if you desire, I'll being this for the wheels in the next part, but for the running gear I left it with the sponging effect. Once the paint had dried I then did a wash of Citadel Sepia to the beige parts, I went in a little heavy as I went a little mad chipping and wanted to mute the effect some what, and the tracks got a heavy wash of Citadel Earth Shade, and were allowed to dry over night

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once dry everything gets a coat of matt ready for the next step....when things gets a little dirty ;)


till the next times my friends



Shane.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:18 pm
by garywintin
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Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:17 pm
by longlance67
Hi Gary,

thanks man, it doesnt look like much now, but once everything dries and the varnish sets it all comes together

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 3:31 am
by longlance67
Hi All,

Hope you all had a nice weekend :)

I think its time to do a little more wear and tear on the 251

For the front wheels, I opted to hand chip these, though this give a lot of extra control, it takes time but results in some nice effects, just take your time and keep your paint nice and thin :)

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once happy and allowed the paint to set a sepia wash was thrown down to age the paint and make everything set down and blend together

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Troop Compartment Chipping:

The troop compartment was painted with Camo Beige and the leather fittings were paint matt black though the Army painter bottle I use has more a satin finish which gives a nice realistic leather finish.

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Then out came the sponge and I randomly attacked various surfaces giving plenty of attention to areas that would receive plenty of traffic from the crew or friction points

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by using various tones and layering up you can achieve subtle rust effects

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hope you have found this useful and I haven't bored you to death


thanks,


Shane

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:48 am
by Coen
Nope... still alive and awake Dude... More more!!!!!

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:54 pm
by longlance67
Thanks Coen, least someone seems to enjoying this thread lol


cheers mate



Shane.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:57 pm
by Paul
longlance67 wrote:Thanks Coen, least someone seems to enjoying this thread lol


cheers mate



Shane.
Im watching and reading mate, looking forward to seeing more :th:

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:03 pm
by longlance67
Thanks Paul, though I doubt you need any pointers on weathering your Tiger is a work of art

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:04 pm
by Paul
longlance67 wrote:Thanks Paul, though I doubt you need any pointers on weathering your Tiger is a work of art
We are always learning mate :th: :cheers2:

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:16 pm
by garywintin
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Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:25 pm
by longlance67
hahahaha deadly

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:20 pm
by Nige201980
nice work mate thanks for sharing this knowledge.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:36 pm
by longlance67
Nige - thanks for the kind words I happy that people are finding these helpful


thanks



Shane

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:20 pm
by Coen
Dude... I will never reach a day where I can say that I've seen it all before in this hobby.
Someone always pops in with something new all the time. I just cruise around looking for it.
It's one reason why I love the hobby. It doesn't get old.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:21 am
by longlance67
Never truer words spoken Coen

its one of the great things about our hobby is never ending learning curve, there is always something new to strive for :)

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:50 am
by longlance67
Hi All


Another update for you,

with the wash set on the running gear and troop compartment and sealed with a coat of matt, its time to move on the next stage on how I like to weather vehicles and a new product I've picked up a while ago, AK interactive Dust Effects. It took me a while to get used to it, as it can flood detail if your not careful with it. So rule of thumb here is less is more, so first everything exposed gets a light coat of Dust before layers of mud go on. After 24 hours and a sealing coat I got a very nice effect

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A pin wash of Mig's Shadow brown was added to pick out panel lines
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Then came the part I love the most in weathering , adding mud :) For the interior mud I used Tamiya's Weathering Master Set A, it is a very handy set and i use it for all my projects.

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all ready for the two hull half's to be joined up,


hope you enjoyed




shane.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:20 am
by Coen
I've got that Tamiya weathering set... I've used it once years ago. I hated the effects. But that because I had no idea how to use it.
I do now... my problem now is remembering that I have it haha.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:44 pm
by longlance67
Coen,

its a handy set to have, just I wont use the applicator that is supplied in the set for anything other than wheels or large surfaces applications

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:24 pm
by Coen
I repurposed the applicator for doing pigments a few years ago.
I think that I'd use an old brush like you do.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:12 am
by longlance67
its a handy jig for laying on pigment but for finer work its very hard to control,

bit of an update on the build. got a big chunk of the painting / weathering done on the kit over the night, had one of those sleepless nights so made the most of it, Ran into a few problems, especially with the decals, the kits supplied ones way too thin and rip or fold up on themselves by just looking at them so these are to be watched out for, also the GW shade (wash) I was using keeps reacting on the paint, which has never happened before, wont be using it again, didn't ruin the model but left water marks on some of the surfaces but I hope when I build up the layers of dust and mud it will be less noticeable,

ill have some pictures up soon gents



thanks


Shane

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:39 pm
by T3hGuppy
longlance67 wrote:its a handy jig for laying on pigment but for finer work its very hard to control,

bit of an update on the build. got a big chunk of the painting / weathering done on the kit over the night, had one of those sleepless nights so made the most of it, Ran into a few problems, especially with the decals, the kits supplied ones way too thin and rip or fold up on themselves by just looking at them so these are to be watched out for, also the GW shade (wash) I was using keeps reacting on the paint, which has never happened before, wont be using it again, didn't ruin the model but left water marks on some of the surfaces but I hope when I build up the layers of dust and mud it will be less noticeable,

ill have some pictures up soon gents



thanks


Shane
Hello Shane the GW washes are well known for leaving water marks on surfaces best used in smaller amounts and you wont have that problem.

I used on my Hellcat cockpit with no issues and removing excess before it dried.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:12 pm
by longlance67
I use their Earthshade in most builds and it goes on grand, but the sepia seems to be very bad for it

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 1:57 am
by longlance67
Howdie All,


get stuck in with the painting over the last day, I wanted to try something I normally stay clear of and went with a camo scheme for my 251, I also find it a little tricky to get it right with a brush and was unsure with it until the washes went down to blend everything together

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now it was down the to part of the build that prove me mental, the decals. Normally I like the markings stage of builds it signals the home stretch of a build but these were were brittle little devils that were tricky to get down without breaking or folding, but with a layer of Micro Set they conform well.

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Once the decals and model were sealed with a coat of gloss in preparation for the sepia wash and oil pin washes

Also a pigment / static grass fixed with matt were applied to the running gear and wheels

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cheers



Shane.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:35 am
by longlance67
I kinda motored ahead with this build over the last few days,I was a bit unsure if this build was gonna work out but i am happy with it, I know this kinda stopped being a how to, but my weathering is very basic so I hope that anyone learning how any of this useful so here is the finished model, the only thing I may add is a stretched spur antenna in the future

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here's group shot with my 251/D flammWagon

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Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:12 am
by Paul
That looks great, nicely faded Camo, spot on mate.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:52 am
by Coen
Wow... Nice stuff Shane!
I wish that could brush paint like that dude. I used to years ago, but lack of use they fade eh?
Well done Dude, really helpful stuff.

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:12 am
by longlance67
Paul, thanks mate, im glad you like it, but Im always never fully happy with any build I do, I think it always keeps me motivated to learn more

Coen, thanks buddy, brush painting is like riding a bike you never forget ;)

Thanks lads



Shane :)

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:05 am
by Coen
My bike is old and rusty and has no seat Shane. :o
Not the most comfortable ride. :lol:

Re: Weathering AFV's step by step for Everyone :)

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:52 am
by longlance67
Yes it doesnt sound the most comfortable of rides, and if our roads or anything to go by once you hit a pothole you'd have a....well you can see where I'm going here lol hahahaha