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True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:03 pm
by bfrd
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I decided to brush the dust off of my ejection seat. Here is a shot of the seat next to a bottle of primer for scale.

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Originally, I had this guy primed and painted the entire thing silver. I was going to use chipping fluid to create a worn appearance. The chipping fluid I had was terrible and I scrapped that idea. I then wrestled with using oils or acrylics. I finally settled on Vallejo Model Color. This thing has way too many details to be sprayed so brush painting for me is a must. I stripped it down to raw resin and re-primed it with Stynylrez gray.

I found some stock images of a similar seat that I will use for reference. They are watermarked as I wasn't about to pay $20 per image just to have a better-looking reference.

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I then used a color selector tool to isolate some of the main colors and picked out the best matches for Vallejo Model Color.

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I have blocked in the main colors and will begin to pick out the pipes with a silver color. Here I plan to use Vallejo Model Air Silver as it covers exceptionally well straight out of the bottle even with a brush.

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**Note the green seat is a bit too intense, so I will tamp that down with weathering effects.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 3:12 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
This is excellent...both in subject matter and presentation
Looking forward to see it progress
:th:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:42 pm
by Stokesy44
Looks good. I love big scale stuff like this. I would love to build a spitfire cockpit or a Merlin engine in 1/10 scale

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:16 am
by bfrd
Started blocking in some chrome color for the pipes. I also added some different colors for belts. The color is very rough and I will have to clean up the edges.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:28 am
by Kevthemodeller
Looking good Matt :th: amazing pieces of technology these are :th:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:54 pm
by ChrisLX200
Looks fantastic, can't wait to see the rest of the plane when you finish it! :-)

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:35 am
by bfrd
I got the edges cleaned up and changed the color of the parachute cover straps.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:37 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Looking good every update
Did you find your ejection loops??
Didn’t I send you a bunch of little plastic jewel boxes for small parts??

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:44 am
by bfrd
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:37 am Looking good every update
Did you find your ejection loops??
Didn’t I send you a bunch of little plastic jewel boxes for small parts??
Yes you did, they aren’t in them; I checked. I think I am going to have to print up some new ones.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:39 am
by ElCapitan
Never seen this sort of thing before — really interesting. Did it come in one piece?

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:36 pm
by digger303
I remember this from a news release , but never saw any close up pic's. Amazing detail and complexity.
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm
by bfrd
ElCapitan wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:39 am Never seen this sort of thing before — really interesting. Did it come in one piece?
The main part which is in the picture is one solid hunk of resin. There are a couple of parts molded separately; overhead handle, a launch column, and some sort of hose connection. The only one of those that I want to use is the one that is missing.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:28 pm
by Quax
Great stuff Matthew, sometimes the bigger it is the harder it is to get right but you're certainly on the right track :clap: :clap:

Paul

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:36 am
by bfrd
I have taken a little creative freedom and modeled my replacement ejection handles. I am working on adding some texture to the handles to simulate the fabric covering. I will post an update when I figure it out.

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EDIT:

I decided to make another one closer to what the picture looks like.

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For giggles, I rendered it.
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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:15 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Wow, that is cool👍🏻😎

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:53 pm
by Kevthemodeller
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:15 pm Wow, that is cool👍🏻😎
Oh yes what he said very 8-)

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:17 am
by bfrd
It bothered me that the handles didn't have any "sag" to them and were completely flat. It took me a while to figure out how to make them move in a couple of different dimensions, but I think these look better.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:20 am
by ElCapitan
That looks amazing - are you planning to 3D print?

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 am
by bfrd
ElCapitan wrote: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:20 am That looks amazing - are you planning to 3D print?
Yes, I have a Peopoly Moai resin printer. I am just working out the slicing and support structure.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:04 am
by bfrd
Well, the good news is that the second print was successful.

The bad news, I got the dimensions wrong and it looks like a cartoon.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:26 am
by Casper
Second print came out really good Matthew and looks great even though a little big and will look perfect when resized. :clap:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:27 am
by digger303
Never mind the next one will be the money shot.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pm
by BigWall
That looks excellent1 Once you have the dimensions down it's going to look great!

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:19 pm
by bfrd
I took my reference photo and scaled my design to match. However, I still think it is too big. I am not sure this is due to the perspective of the reference or the actual model itself not quite being the same.

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Thoughts?

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:28 am
by Casper
Fixing bar looks the correct size but the loops look a little too big, are you able to reduce them slightly in cad Mathew
Mark

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:39 am
by aur0ra145
Really cool build! Looking great so far.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:27 am
by Stokesy44
I agree with Casper, its the loops that are just a little outsized. :th:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:55 am
by bfrd
I edited the model (again) and created a thread for the process. I will print it this afternoon when I get home.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29309

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:16 am
by bfrd
Still not perfect, but I am going to go with it.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:31 am
by Twokidsnosleep
That’s a winner Matthew 👍🏻😎

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:55 am
by aur0ra145
Looks spot on!

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:32 am
by bfrd
I think wrapping tape around the handles is the way to go.

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Ignore the blutac; I’m not ready to permanently attach.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:10 am
by BigWall
Excellent! Such a cool project!

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:50 am
by bfrd
I worked on getting some more color onto the seat. I switched from Vallejo to Mr Metal for the brass. I also used a toothpick and some Molotow chrome for some bolt heads. I decided to go with blue for the top parachute cords (I think that’s what those are). It is a bit anachronistic, but I think it pops nicely.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:32 am
by Casper
:clap: That's excellent Matthew and the tape looks perfect, love the textured bracket.
Molotow pens and paints are brilliant, it can rub off sometimes when handling your model but doesn't smudge across other paint and a quick touch with the pen really looks great. Not tried it through a brush yet though.
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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:50 am
by aur0ra145
Really well done so far!

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:23 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Keeps getting better and better :th:

A big thank you to Matthew for opening up a 3D printing section on the forum
Awesome idea

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:28 am
by Stokesy44
Very nice work. I love the ejection handles. I could never have been a jet pilot, pulling on the handle would have been too much of a temptation :lol:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:32 am
by bfrd
Casper wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:32 am :clap: That's excellent Matthew and the tape looks perfect, love the textured bracket.
Molotow pens and paints are brilliant, it can rub off sometimes when handling your model but doesn't smudge across other paint and a quick touch with the pen really looks great. Not tried it through a brush yet though.
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The toothpick is my favorite way to apply, but I have brushed. It even thins with MLT if you are brave enough to spray it! I will be clearing the model next to protect the paintwork before weathering. That should lock in the chrome parts.

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:02 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
bfrd wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:32 am
The toothpick is my favorite way to apply, but I have brushed. It even thins with MLT if you are brave enough to spray it! I will be clearing the model next to protect the paintwork before weathering. That should lock in the chrome parts.
Buy the refill tube if you want to spray it...straight out of the tube no diluting
It is as easy a chrome as you can get if you can leave it along for a good week to harden over

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:00 pm
by Casper
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:02 pm
bfrd wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:32 am
The toothpick is my favorite way to apply, but I have brushed. It even thins with MLT if you are brave enough to spray it! I will be clearing the model next to protect the paintwork before weathering. That should lock in the chrome parts.
Buy the refill tube if you want to spray it...straight out of the tube no diluting
It is as easy a chrome as you can get if you can leave it along for a good week to harden over
I got this chrome drip stick rollerball when I got my first pen, I'm on my second pen after stepping on the first :roll: I tried the ball pen on a pad and the chrome looks a different shade, kinda darker. on the label it just says chrome 862.006. It pools very well when using a brush and looks very convincing and the pens are perfect as you say for finishing touches.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:09 am
by bfrd
I did a quick dry brush with Citadel Necron Compound. I then cleared it with Aquagloss.

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EDIT: Here is the back
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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:23 pm
by bfrd
Almost home!

I got the panel liner on, taped up the seat release, and glued on the ejection handles. The only thing left is to put a final clear; I plan to use dullcote.

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Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:55 am
by Kevthemodeller
Just loving it Matt :banana: :th: :pop:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 8:45 am
by Stokesy44
Kevthemodeller wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:55 am Just loving it Matt :banana: :th: :pop:
What he said :clap: :clap:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejectionn Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:29 am
by Casper
:clap: Some very nice details picked out. Bravo

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:06 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Super just super
SO good to see something a bit different take form on the Forum

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:25 pm
by RangerNeil
Now that is impressive beyond mere words. :bow:: Congratulations!! :cheers2:

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:56 pm
by BigWall
Absolutely excellent work! Very great build!

Re: True Details 1:10 Martin Baker H7 Ejection Seat

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:04 am
by digger303
Wow your paint skills are really giving it life.
:clap: :clap: :clap:
:cheers2: