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The Black Pearl... a slow build log

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:00 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Diving into this big box now

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1/72 scale Zvezda kit
Detail looks pretty good
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3D printed some figures out as well
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Here is the base started out

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So with that intricate detail, do I base paint it and then dry brush the raised details???? :think:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:20 pm
by Garion77
On my side I would paint it like varnish wood... you know like wooden propellers of WW I planes. But if the details of the base are anything like the ship itself it should be nice !!

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 am
by RangerNeil
Any more progress on this one? Or did I miss something elsewhere?? :)

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:54 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
RangerNeil wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 am Any more progress on this one? Or did I miss something elsewhere?? :)
not until the weekend mate...some people work :tongue:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:53 pm
by Stokesy44
The real question is will you follow the instructions or view them merely as "Guidelines"?

I crack myself up :clap: :dance: :lol:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:10 pm
by barryf1fan
This will be good. :pop:

One of my fav movie series'. Can't wait for some progress pics! :th: :cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:02 pm
by RangerNeil
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:54 pm
RangerNeil wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:57 am Any more progress on this one? Or did I miss something elsewhere?? :)
not until the weekend mate...some people work :tongue:
Oh gawd - my goof!!! Apologies, for some reason I read the date on your Sept 20th post as 2020!! :oops:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 5:37 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Base is painted and gilded gold with Pearl white letters

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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 am
by digger303
Paint work looks almost printed on....very steady work my friend.
:bow:: :bow:: :bow::
:cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:29 am
by BigWall
That looks very sharp! Nice job!

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:15 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
digger303 wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 6:24 am Paint work looks almost printed on....very steady work my friend.
:bow:: :bow:: :bow::
:cheers2:
One more coat and I will get the Pearl white more even...it is latex and not oil unfortunately

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:27 pm
by BigWall
Interesting! What brand of paint is latex? I know house paint is obviously, but you're the first one I've ever seen use latex paint on a model.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:30 pm
by RangerNeil
Love the stand - excellent work!!!! :cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:51 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Making 32 cannons😳🙄
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This is why the Captains have the thousand mile stare
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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:32 am
by digger303
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:51 am Making 32 cannons😳🙄
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This is why the Captains have the thousand mile stare
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AND you worry about a few wheels on armor :lol: :lol:
:th: :cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:28 am
by Twokidsnosleep
First set of eight cannons put together
Ultimate black primer, bunt umber and black oil layers for wood bits. Cannons are dark iron Mr Metal Color

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This is nice as it give a deep chocolate brown woodwork look and changes the black scheme a bit

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:07 am
by digger303
The brass/bronze color on the cannons look very nice.
:cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:39 am
by Stokesy44
I was going to say you had peaked too early with the stand but I was wrong.

Those cannons look superb. Great wood and iron effects. They look scaleless and that's a real art my friend :clap: :clap:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:14 am
by Garion77
The stand looks amazing with the paint ! that is a damn good start. And the cannon... oh my god the quantities of pieces in the kit... that's going to be a big and long project I think !
I stumble on this this morning....



Thought you might like it even if it's a wooden ship. I love wooden ships kits. I have 2 that I started a few years ago and put aside...

And I don't know if you saw in my Tony's building thread...but my girlfriend made me the best Christmas gift ever (in advance)... a beautiful puppy. A golden retriever that we named Maïka. She first tried to get a new Bernese mountain dog but almost everywhere the wait was around 2/3 years. And realized that may be it would be better an another race as it would may be replace to much Cléo and make a comparison. Good thing she chose an another race because it would have been the case.

Take care and stay safe. Can't wait to see the progression on this project.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:07 am
by Twokidsnosleep
8 sets of cannons done over three evenings after dinner and chores gets all 32 cannons assembled
Still have detail and touch up painting to do on these two dozen

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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:38 am
by digger303
That's going to be a heavy broadside....Black powder to the gun deck :tongue:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:15 pm
by Tomcat64
Awesome work on the stand & canons mate - the canons look genuinely heavy :clap: :clap: :clap:

Looking forward to seeing the ship itself come together :pop:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:29 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
BigWall wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:27 pm Interesting! What brand of paint is latex? I know house paint is obviously, but you're the first one I've ever seen use latex paint on a model.
Whoops acrylic i meant….it is an artist brand, will get a pic of the tube

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:10 pm
by BigWall
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:29 pm
BigWall wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:27 pm Interesting! What brand of paint is latex? I know house paint is obviously, but you're the first one I've ever seen use latex paint on a model.
Whoops acrylic i meant….it is an artist brand, will get a pic of the tube
Ahhh! I've got it. I have artist acrylics in tubes as well.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:26 am
by Twokidsnosleep
So a bit done on the Pearl

Got the hull glued together and the decks cut out and test fitted

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I decided to make a soft jig for the base so I didn’t ruin the paintwork on the kit one. Just some foam cardboard and glue.
All 32 cannons are finished and painted. Have to put them away so they don’t get ruined

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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:20 am
by Garion77
lovely picture in the back ! ;)

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:41 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Garion77 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:20 am lovely picture in the back ! ;)
Yes, one of my Coco pup shrines
Piper is getting better with me, but Coco was MY girl

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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 pm
by Garion77
oooh so beautiful ! thank you for sharing ! I understand how can still miss her !

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:13 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
So some slight mods to the support. Now I have added a bit of plywood that lets me hold the base easier and is more solid
Black Stylenrez primer added to decking

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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:24 pm
by Stokesy44
Lovely work. The Pearl is looking smart and the Coco pics are lovely :th:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:41 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Stokesy44 wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:24 pm Lovely work. The Pearl is looking smart and the Coco pics are lovely :th:
Thank you David
Hope you had a lovely weekend

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:53 pm
by RangerNeil
Pearl is coming on nicely - I'm looking forward to seeing the finished (and rigged) item. :)
FWIW - our dogs never truly leave us - a part remains always. Ascribe to it what you will - it just is that way.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:45 am
by digger303
Hull comes together quick and really seems like the finish is close. Of course I know that isn't right and there is a myriad of things still to do. Interested to see what you do with the rigging.
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:29 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Testing out my decking paint
The overall base is Stylenrez flat black.
The little section on the right has the following
1. Burnt umber oil, wiped
2. Black oil, light wiped
3. AK Burnt Jet Engine pigments rubbed into oils while still wet with a Q tip

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It drops off the oil sheen and gives an uneven rough mat black look I am after with just a hint of brown wood underneath
My worry is the pigments will rub away too much to the touch :think:
Letting it dry up and see. Then plan a light grey dry brush to hit the highlights of the planks

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:27 am
by DRUMS01
Neat build Scott... I saw your comment on my Yamato build so I had to come over and take a look. I have the old Revell Constitution and United states along with the Heller Victory for rigged ships but I'm not sure when I will ever start any of them (it's a rigging thing)....

Like those cannons....

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:59 am
by Twokidsnosleep
DRUMS01 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:27 am Neat build Scott... I saw your comment on my Yamato build so I had to come over and take a look. I have the old Revell Constitution and United states along with the Heller Victory for rigged ships but I'm not sure when I will ever start any of them (it's a rigging thing)....

Like those cannons....
Cheers mate, she is getting a bit more fun
I was reading about a full on scratch build, really nicely done

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Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am
by digger303
Very nicely done. I was trying to get a better look at the way the rope ends were dealt with, but unfortunately not. At this distance they look very real.
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm
by DBMiller
Rigged ships are so far beyond my comfort zone! I admire your dedication.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:04 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
DBMiller wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm Rigged ships are so far beyond my comfort zone! I admire your dedication.
you mean my stupidity :tongue:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:24 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
digger303 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am Very nicely done. I was trying to get a better look at the way the rope ends were dealt with, but unfortunately not. At this distance they look very real.
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2:
this was the forum the pic is from. The guy does a full on amazing scratch build from wood, carved bits and all :shock:
Not a bad read for a rainy day
https://www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_p ... .php?31041

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:45 pm
by DBMiller
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:04 pm
DBMiller wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:57 pm Rigged ships are so far beyond my comfort zone! I admire your dedication.
you mean my stupidity :tongue:
Well no...uh, no. Really.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am
by Garion77
ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's :jd:
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:11 pm
by Twokidsnosleep
Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's :jd:
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them
Oh yeah amazing hobby scratch building like that.
There are a few wooden ship building sites online...good rabbit hole to fall into
I have wooden kits for the Blue Nose I and II which are very Canadian ships found on our dime. One day I will get to those ;)

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm
by Garion77
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:11 pm
Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's :jd:
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them
Oh yeah amazing hobby scratch building like that.
There are a few wooden ship building sites online...good rabbit hole to fall into
I have wooden kits for the Blue Nose I and II which are very Canadian ships found on our dime. One day I will get to those ;)
A big rabbit hole !! And the tools aren't the same ! The space needed to build them too...The bluenose is one of the two I have. The other one, a better kit, is a Swift if I remember right. This is the one I done the most work, which isn't that much. And really not a good job on it. Getting back to it I think I would have to start over and scratch build the wood pieces that I've used.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:32 am
by Twokidsnosleep
Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:26 pm
Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:11 pm
Garion77 wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:54 am ship like those are so impressive. They are such great kits on the market too... I have two in my stash that I started years ago... and was not properly equip at the time. I would love to get back to them once...
The most expensive one have such details. I met I guy once that lives near me who build them for museum and sells them. He does scratch for only plans, sometimes the original plans, and kits. I should try to find back is internet site. It's :jd:
ANd you should see the prices it sells !!! But considering the prices of the kits and the time spent building them
Oh yeah amazing hobby scratch building like that.
There are a few wooden ship building sites online...good rabbit hole to fall into
I have wooden kits for the Blue Nose I and II which are very Canadian ships found on our dime. One day I will get to those ;)
A big rabbit hole !! And the tools aren't the same ! The space needed to build them too...The bluenose is one of the two I have. The other one, a better kit, is a Swift if I remember right. This is the one I done the most work, which isn't that much. And really not a good job on it. Getting back to it I think I would have to start over and scratch build the wood pieces that I've used.
I have other workshop(s) for woodwork and leatherwork so the ship building could go there
I would really love to do it...might just have to :think:

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:00 am
by BigWall
Scratch building is way beyond my patience level for sure.

Your deck looks great Scott. I would think the oils would bond the pigments down but I guess time will tell.

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:23 am
by Twokidsnosleep
BigWall wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:00 am Scratch building is way beyond my patience level for sure.

Your deck looks great Scott. I would think the oils would bond the pigments down but I guess time will tell.
Yes it seems to hold on ok
Lost a bit of mojo waiting for my deck paint oils to dry out
Got to push myself to keep moving on this project

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:51 pm
by RangerNeil
It will be worth the push once you (and we!) see the finished Pearl. :D

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:40 pm
by Stokesy44
RangerNeil wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:51 pm It will be worth the push once you (and we!) see the finished Pearl. :D
Yargh, tis true!

Re: The Black Pearl

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:04 am
by digger303
Yes as the others said you will be pleased with the result once finished.
:th: :th: :th:
:cheers2: