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Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:39 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Hello guys!
Time for another build.
Wanted to do a Out Of the Box build this time, with a kit that would be a quick and easy build.
So This is what it's going to be.

The sprue shots,




The glass windows for the side is going to be replaced for a plastic bag kind of glass. For this would be more accurate than the hard glass the kit supplies. The roof was foldable, so hard glass was no option.
And no decals supplied....
This because Tamiya decided to let them out for it only contained SS markings and Swastikas.
In the manual these markings are all blackened, and the SS license plates are not in the kit.
I'm building this kit OOB, but now I have to go after market, just for the licence plates and markings... Sadly.
This build is going quick as I suspected, so the undercarriage is almost build..
I'm not paying to much attention to detailing the underside, for it will not be visible.


So on the hunt for SS licence plates, this is the end of episode 1
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:16 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Found some SS Plates
A nice photo etch set with masks from Eduard "big ed".
One problem solved

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:51 am
by Coen
PE!! I knew you couldn't resist
I like the idea of replacing the window, that will make it really delicate to handle though. Depends on the plastic you choose though. It will look 100 times better though.
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:05 am
by MarkVerploeg
that is a pretty nice kit
i have made one a few years back and it is easy to build
but i think why the decals are missing
in Germany ss symbols and swastika's are not allowed so kits that are imported there are opend and the decals are rrmoved and the instructions for them are blacked out (from what i heared)
but eduard makes license plates wich are preprinted aswell really handy stuff
good luck with the build
cheers Mark
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:15 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Coen wrote:PE!! I knew you couldn't resist
I like the idea of replacing the window, that will make it really delicate to handle though. Depends on the plastic you choose though. It will look 100 times better though.
Haha! You know me mate, I'm a PE addict... But the lincence plates will be the only PE parts at this kit.. Promiss!
As for the window, I thinking of using the plastig bake were the clear parts came in. It's a pretty thick and clear bag.
Will do some testing before gluing it in to place though..

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:18 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
MarkVerploeg wrote:that is a pretty nice kit
i have made one a few years back and it is easy to build
but i think why the decals are missing
in Germany ss symbols and swastika's are not allowed so kits that are imported there are opend and the decals are rrmoved and the instructions for them are blacked out (from what i heared)
but eduard makes license plates wich are preprinted aswell really handy stuff
good luck with the build
cheers Mark
Thank you Mark.
And yeah, I have read that story about the missing decals somewere too.
But I don't mind, It gives me an excuse to buy som PE parts...
I saw a very good review about the Big Ed lincense plates.
The masks are very handy for you can use them over and over again
Cheers!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:20 am
by EasyEight96
Nice kit there Frans it sure must be a very annoying problem for you guys to look out for swastikas and other censored stuff
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:04 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
EasyEight96 wrote:Nice kit there Frans it sure must be a very annoying problem for you guys to look out for swastikas and other censored stuff
Thanks mate
And yeah it is. . Trying to get some templates so I can airbrush them on.
And planning to buy a stash of swastikas decal sheets.
That would solve the problem I think.

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:14 am
by MarkVerploeg
fly1ngdutchm4n wrote:EasyEight96 wrote:Nice kit there Frans it sure must be a very annoying problem for you guys to look out for swastikas and other censored stuff
Thanks mate
And yeah it is. . Trying to get some templates so I can airbrush them on.
And planning to buy a stash of swastikas decal sheets.
That would solve the problem I think.

hi Frans
in that case archer fine transfers may be a option
i have the set for the br52 and that has the full eagle and swastika in it
so they don't have stuff censored and they have.both dry transfers and normal "wet" decals
but there are.not so many dutch shops who have them
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:14 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
MarkVerploeg wrote:fly1ngdutchm4n wrote:EasyEight96 wrote:Nice kit there Frans it sure must be a very annoying problem for you guys to look out for swastikas and other censored stuff
Thanks mate
And yeah it is. . Trying to get some templates so I can airbrush them on.
And planning to buy a stash of swastikas decal sheets.
That would solve the problem I think.

hi Frans
in that case archer fine transfers may be a option
i have the set for the br52 and that has the full eagle and swastika in it
so they don't have stuff censored and they have.both dry transfers and normal "wet" decals
but there are.not so many dutch shops who have them
Thanks Mark
I will have a look for those.
I have a running account at archer (with I almost forgot about), so I will order those from them.
Would be the easiest way I think.
Thanks for the heads up mate

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:27 am
by UKscalemodeller
This looks an interesting one. get on with it

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:52 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:19 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Aaaaaaaaaaaand here we are, with another epic update, Dutchman's style!
Well... it's a OOB build (mostly), so nothing to special this time, but I'm only happy when I can do things differently so lets start with the wide indicators.
I didn't liked the ones supplied with the kit, so I did what I always do with things I don't like, I replace them.
(thank god I like my wife eh?)
It's a little trick I often use to replace the wide indicators, you might now this one.
I used straight pins (I think that's how they are called) and I cut them at the right size.
Cut them in a cloth people, to prevent the sharp pin jumping away...
The pins are slightly bigger, but that would be barley noticeable on the model.

Applied a small strip of masking tape at the bottom to re-create a level in the rod, and rolled it into CA glue to secure it.

Here's one in place

And both..

This is what I got so far.
The license plate is going to be replaced by a Coloured PE one... You know me..
Forgot to cut it off.

The tires are temporary fixed with some tack.

Next step will be gluing the body together, but as there are a lot of marks, I'll need to get rid of those for they will be visible in the interior.

But that's for a next time!
Thanks for tuning in again guys, and happy modelling!
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:23 pm
by T3hGuppy
Looking good dude.
Shame about all those pin marks.
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:34 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
T3hGuppy wrote:Looking good dude.
Shame about all those pin marks.
Thanks mate!
Yeah, it's a shame about the pin marks, but this kit is from 1975 so I expected them to be there a lot!
So happy filling and sanding for me! lol

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 3:47 am
by ConnorM
looking real good.
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:49 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
ConnorM wrote:looking real good.
Thanks mate!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:58 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Warning! Fast update!
Dry fitted the figure and steering wheel.
This figure is not cleaned up yet
Also glued the body work on today.
The body needs to be filled with diluted putty for there aer some small seems visible.
Cheers guys!

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Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:01 am
by MarkVerploeg
it is starting to look like a truck
great job so far
and ehh
you sure your not searching high and low for pe
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:37 am
by EasyEight96
Beautiful job very creative on the headlights
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:52 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
MarkVerploeg wrote:it is starting to look like a truck
great job so far
and ehh
you sure your not searching high and low for pe
Thanks Mark
And no PE this time. .. well... Going to replace the licence plates for Pe plates because the decals are missing, But that's it, no big upgrade set this time. Promise!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:53 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
EasyEight96 wrote:Beautiful job very creative on the headlights
Thanks mate

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:36 am
by longlance67
looking good Frans
something different
Shane
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:05 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
longlance67 wrote:looking good Frans
something different
Shane
Thanks Shane!
Love this kit. Trying to run out of my Tamiya stash.
making room for dragon

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:44 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Hello boys and girls!
Having weekend know, and I did some filling with putty this Saturday morning.
While that's drying, I decided to give the scratch made windows a try.
Tamiya included clear plastic windows for the side of the roof.
Now, the original roof was a foldable canvas roof, so there would not be hard glass in the roof.
Instead there would be clear soft plastic windows in it.
Here's a pic of the original roof, so that you can see what I'm waffling about

So time to try and make my own.
Tried out different pieces of plastic like cling foil and sandwich bags, but the best plastic for this task is the one from from the bag the sprues came in
Here you can see the windows from Tamiya onto a piece of that bag.

Used the kit part as a template to cut out the new window.

With small strips of masking tape, I made the window bars.
Here's one side done, the other side needs to be done too.

Now, If I would use the kit part glass windows, It would look like this

With my new scratch made plastic windows, It would look like this


The window is temporally fixed with tape, because they will be fixed in to the roof the last.
Also, at the underside of the window there will be a extra strip added that is going to be attached to the car. Like you can see at the first photo. This will be also easier for me to secure the window.
I think this window is much more realistic looking like the real thing.
Better then the kit part anyway. I hope I can pull this off
Thanks for looking guys, all tips and comments are welcome as always!
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:09 pm
by EasyEight96
Absolutely genius!!! I love the build so far you made me build my Stug IV already curse you!! Hahahahaha
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:56 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
EasyEight96 wrote:Absolutely genius!!! I love the build so far you made me build my Stug IV already curse you!! Hahahahaha
Haha! Thanks mate, And good luck with your Stug IV build!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:22 am
by andreb87
welcome back to the dark side

sweet little car!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:26 am
by andreb87
oh btw frans i totally agree with you! many modellers present dunkelgrau 7021 in a light grey tone or some kind of blue. the original color is nearly black!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:37 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
andreb87 wrote:welcome back to the dark side

sweet little car!
andreb87 wrote:oh btw frans i totally agree with you! many modellers present dunkelgrau 7021 in a light grey tone or some kind of blue. the original color is nearly black!

Thanks Andre!
Love this car. Easy build, so going fast.
Hoping the side windowswill work out though.
And the colour seems to turned out just a little bit to light, but I'm solving that by adding a dak filter
Cheers!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:42 am
by andreb87
i think it will work but i would be careful. i would stick to acrylics and apply the window after the weathering. turpentine maybe could attack the clear parts. and glue ... ? ??? white glue or micro kristal clear? maybe white glue

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:01 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
andreb87 wrote:i think it will work but i would be careful. i would stick to acrylics and apply the window after the weathering. turpentine maybe could attack the clear parts. and glue ... ? ??? white glue or micro kristal clear? maybe white glue

The windows are going in last. I use micro kristal clear to put the windows in. The roof is going on when the interior is finished including the figure, and when the car is weathered. Front window is going to be easy, side windows difficult for I replaced the hard clear plastic parts for scratch build soft plastic parts like the original foldable roof would have.
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:35 pm
by AchtungPanzer
Good work my friend at this moment. Well done Frans

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:43 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
AchtungPanzer wrote:Good work my friend at this moment. Well done Frans

Thank you my friend!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:31 pm
by EasyEight96
Stunning paint job

you are just too pro Frans

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:13 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
EasyEight96 wrote:Stunning paint job

you are just too pro Frans

Thank you very much mate!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:17 pm
by wappynutter
Fantastic Frans, love the plastic bag window replacement.....
I too would have done that because the kit part sucks.....
Nicely done with the paintwork too, the black preshading really works well with the Khaki roof colour...
Good luck mate, and as always Happy Modelling...

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:06 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
wappynutter wrote:Fantastic Frans, love the plastic bag window replacement.....
I too would have done that because the kit part sucks.....
Nicely done with the paintwork too, the black preshading really works well with the Khaki roof colour...
Good luck mate, and as always Happy Modelling...

Thanks Andy
Did a Dryfit at those bag windows today
Happy modelling to you to matey

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:59 pm
by MarkVerploeg
nice
and your recycling worked really well
and no pe in sight this could mean the begining of a ehole new era for a certain dutchman
cheers Mark
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:01 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
MarkVerploeg wrote:nice
and your recycling worked really well
and no pe in sight this could mean the begining of a ehole new era for a certain dutchman
cheers Mark
Thanks Mark
And no PE in sight

Haha! You'd be surprised if i told you that there are pe license plates on it way!

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:23 pm
by MarkVerploeg
fly1ngdutchm4n wrote:MarkVerploeg wrote:nice
and your recycling worked really well
and no pe in sight this could mean the begining of a ehole new era for a certain dutchman
cheers Mark
Thanks Mark
And no PE in sight

Haha! You'd be surprised if i told you that there are pe license plates on it way!

i'm not suprised actually
you would show signs of withdrawl if you didn't
that always happens when you take the drug (pe in your case) from a addict
and i don't expect that you quit you habbit any time soon

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:09 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
MarkVerploeg wrote:fly1ngdutchm4n wrote:MarkVerploeg wrote:nice
and your recycling worked really well
and no pe in sight this could mean the begining of a ehole new era for a certain dutchman
cheers Mark
Thanks Mark
And no PE in sight

Haha! You'd be surprised if i told you that there are pe license plates on it way!

i'm not suprised actually
you would show signs of withdrawl if you didn't
that always happens when you take the drug (pe in your case) from a addict
and i don't expect that you quit you habbit any time soon


lol.. Nope, love that stuff

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:09 pm
by fly1ngdutchm4n
Hello guys!
Another update for ya!
I was thinking to hang something behind this Horch, but I didn't know what...
Mostly these cars pulled A flak canon or a pak 40, But also a Nebelwerfer.
I was looking for a scale Nebelwerfer and found one from Lion Roar, but way to expensive for this build.
If I would do a dio where a nebelwerfer would be central, I would buy this kit, but not for a prop.
BUT! I have read that the ammunition for the nebelwerfer was transported separately for safety reasons in specially designed ammo trolleys.


And I have found one for a good prize. 
24 resin parts, and a small sheet of photo etch. YEAH!!
So this is what's going to be pulled by the SS Horch. (sorry for the crappy pic)

Here are the parts.
It's a tiny trolley, kinda cute almost..

Now this is what I have to make from a piece of wire and some photo etch.
The springs.

The easiest way for me to make spings, it to put a drill upside down in a pin vise together with the piece of wire.
This way it is simple to make spings. I needed loose springs, not tight.

Added a long piece of wire form the wheels to the front of the trolley, and put the spring over that wire. Finished it of with the photo etch part, and tataaaa! Great looking springs.


Cleaning up this resin kit was simple to do. Just some small flash and cutting the parts of the cast blocks.
The fenders were a bit tricky to glue on, for there was not much space to glue it on.
This build went very well, that I forgot to make more progress pics...
But I can recommend this kit!
And here's the trolley Almost finished without the ammo boxes.
The wheels are temporary fixed for the pic.

And with the ammo boxes.

And here it is behind the Horch.



I think it looks great and it is something different
Thanks for waching guys, please let me know your opinions!
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:07 pm
by MarkVerploeg
hi Frans
nice looking trolley
if you still want a nebelwerfer there is a alternative for the lion roar kit
modellbau konig (shop) has them under there own brand but it was a limited edition at the time but i had a chat with the owner on a convention and he mentioned that he wanted to order a new batch of them
it is the older italeri kit but there is a pe set for it
and the kit was about €10 so not that expensive
i'm not 100% sure but the lion roar kit is a pe or mostly pe kit
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:09 am
by fly1ngdutchm4n
MarkVerploeg wrote:hi Frans
nice looking trolley
if you still want a nebelwerfer there is a alternative for the lion roar kit
modellbau konig (shop) has them under there own brand but it was a limited edition at the time but i had a chat with the owner on a convention and he mentioned that he wanted to order a new batch of them
it is the older italeri kit but there is a pe set for it
and the kit was about €10 so not that expensive
i'm not 100% sure but the lion roar kit is a pe or mostly pe kit
Hi Mark!
Thanks
I did saw that Italeri kit somewhere on Ebay, but it was ended. I will keep a eye out for Modellbau Konig, thanks for the tip!
The lion Roar kit is pretty awesome though, It's almost fully PE. The undercarriage is made out of resin with PE parts, The gun itself from PE. Really awesome, but just didn't wanted to pay almost 50 euro ex delivery cost for it
Maybe in the future a vignette wit a nebelwerfer.. Hmmm, some idea's already in my head..... lol
Cheers buddy

Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:01 pm
by MarkVerploeg
those masks give a really nice result
i think i'm going to get some too ,some time
now get going on the rest

we all want to see some end results
cheers Mark
Re: Tamiya 1:35 S.Gl Einheits PKW Horch 4x4 Type 1A
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:33 pm
by chief5437
Great stuff Frans, those masks are excellent, 10 x better than decals. Good work fella!