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Yo Ho!

Finally got back on sail with this one.
We have watched the first three Pirates of the Caribbean series over dinner on the weekend.
They were sure hard on the Pearl, poor girl

Anyhows, the decks are glued together, the cannons in on the lower deck.
I had them at the extended position first, but kept bumping into them and it didn’t seem realistic to be traipsing around the ocean with your cannons dangling out your hull

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I test fit with the sides etc to see that we are close before gluing
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You're probably best sticking to the first 3 films only. I would be happy with just the first movie. I thought they went downhill pretty quickly after the original. The first movie was an awesome film.
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Stokesy44 wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:36 am You're probably best sticking to the first 3 films only. I would be happy with just the first movie. I thought they went downhill pretty quickly after the original. The first movie was an awesome film.
I have only seen bits a pieces of any of the movies, never sat and watched the entire movie but know the gist of the stories
Really enjoyed them and found I could figure things out and help explain to others
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Watched all the films at least twice :D
deck looks great scott :clap: oils can take ages to dry but look fantastic. wow all those canons :o
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Once the masts go on it's going to be difficult to see the spray booth.
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digger303 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:19 am Once the masts go on it's going to be difficult to see the spray booth.
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Hadn't thought that far ahead
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Twokidsnosleep wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:09 am
digger303 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:19 am Once the masts go on it's going to be difficult to see the spray booth.
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Some slow progress on The Pearl

Lower part of hull primed light brown to allow weathering and darker layers
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Sides are just being added, deck to cement later
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Details on the upper decks getting tan primed and then a burnt umber oil paint ontop to give a deep chocolate brown. Black oil then splotched over and areas of use will be wiped lighter. Made a rope for the wheel and modified the base with holes.

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Resin printing some deck details. Made some barrels and some wooden crates.
Had some fails and warpage, but some perfect ones too :think:


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In gelb printer
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I think the scale will work out :scratch::
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The barrels are a real success I like them a lot.
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Nice barrels and boxes! It's coming along nicely!
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Thats some very nice paintwork right there.

The 3d printed stuff looks tasty too
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Some oil paint on the barrels and boxes

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Powder kegs and a couple of buckets

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Then trying to alter the captain’s quarters with proper double doors, windows and female column supports
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This is the kit’s generic ship captain’s door, no windows :think:
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The column file I found
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Few fails but these will work ok
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Wow, I'm surprised there was a 3d file for that. Great find!
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nice job ! looking even better !!! it's coming along great !
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The ship wall and door does look rather anemic and I can see why you would want to improve it.
Great find with the column file if there is one for that there must be numerous window and door files as well.
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Those are going to look great.

I have to laugh at myself. I could not imagine a female column support. I was like, all the columns I can think of would be called a male column support if anything. LOL! Chemo brain sucks.
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I messed with the column file and thickened up the girls a bit in the z axis
Then I duplicated them until I had twelve. That way I should at least get a couple useful ones

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Then the window frames. I did two different sizes
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Now I had to cut out the windows on the wall. This was fun
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I framed them out with thin styrene just to clean things up. Everything will get painted dark
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Also printed out a mess of bells for the bridge. Every one looks like it printed fine, just cleaning them up. I only needed one
Messed up my barrel size as they came out much larger than the previous set :scratch::
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This is going to be amazing. Nice work
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BigWall wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:33 am This is going to be amazing. Nice work
Cheers :cheers2:
Killing myself on this
Knocked a cannon loose in the lower deck. Need a plan to recover it :think:
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Ok this is it for the night
S-load of Bells= seven
The window frames cleaned up
My mermaid girl columns are in the top left corner drying with some filler on their backs to smooth the support trims off
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I am glad I printed so many bells as they are thinner than paper and just evaporate in your hands
Got one trimmed off and primed the interior. This is what it will look like sitting inside the support. I will have it hanging from a rope
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Then the window frames got primed gelb and then oil painted burnt umber
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I am done, just exhausted for the night
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Really nice work on that wall. Terrible effort from the kit manufacturer but the new stuff is a real rescue job.
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Thats going to be very nice when completed.
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Marvelous work going beyond the kits limitations.
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Thank you gents :cheers2: , :cheers2: , :cheers2:
I had no intention of modifying the wall, hence cemented it in place
Then my conscience just couldn’t bear with it so boring
The bell is a controversy as I cannot find it in film pics, but the frame looks cool and I found a bell, so….
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Things finishing out

Bell
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Cabinet
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Captain’s doors, pillars and windows..some white glue ‘glass’ still drying

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That's looking really good! I just love how you can detail up using a resin printer.
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aur0ra145 wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:07 am That's looking really good! I just love how you can detail up using a resin printer.
I know, right :D
It is so cool to just mess around and print your own parts :banana:
Now everything is not exact, I am not at full on 3D design capability , but you can see I get the gist of the real Pearl here.
There is so much variation on the references for this ship. I have seen one sided and open sided compass cabinets and I have seen no cabinet at all :scratch:: the same for the ships bell :think:
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I need a flipping 3D printer. But more, I need to have a clue how to use it. LOL

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Superb upgrade work. You’ve got the tools but they’re nothing without talent! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Its been tried and tested, it works! So don't blame the system if you're no good. :doh:
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Ha ha guys, thanks
I am just winging it along…fake it until I make it :lol:

These are my 1/72 figures I printed early in…they are just a tad small
That is ok as I was going to re-print them and now can make them a tad larger now I know how to do that :shifty:

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Some barrels and such on the bridge
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Well maybe not that far off size. This is a 1/72 RAF figure :think:
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Lovely work.
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At this moment, I am liking this kit.
The surface detail is really amazing and it really pops with a thin spray of yellow gelb primer and then oil paint
It is a pain as it takes longer for the paint to dry, but the pigments of oils are just awesome
Here is the row boat painted and drying on the deck

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I ripped out the compass cabinet and cut it open through and through as it was bugging me
Repainted and glued up it is drying as well waiting for front and back clear acrylic

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These staircase railings will never do. The balusters are wrong and the bottom doesn’t curve correctly inward :scratch::
They have the right shapes for the supports at the top rail, not sure why they went boring straight for the staircase :think:
More mods forthcoming :roll:

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There is a product that speeds up the drying of oil paints...24-48hrs....https://www.vms-supplies.com/vms-oil-expert
Not sure if anyone else do one.
I know you love the bell, but my recollections of a ships bell was more like the size of a persons head and had a rope attached for ringing it and was located at head level......please don't shoot the messenger good ones are hard to find... :lol:
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digger303 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:02 pm There is a product that speeds up the drying of oil paints...24-48hrs....https://www.vms-supplies.com/vms-oil-expert
Not sure if anyone else do one.
I know you love the bell, but my recollections of a ships bell was more like the size of a persons head and had a rope attached for ringing it and was located at head level......please don't shoot the messenger good ones are hard to find... :lol:
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There is no clear one version with the Pearl and the bell was never a large figure in any of the movies…so it gives me leeway
Currently trying to figure out a jig to wind my own sisal fiber ropes :think:
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I did some hand winding of rigging rope and then re-wound the ship’s wheel
This is painted wire that didn’t hold its twist
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The hand wound rope
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Not terrible, but I want to make one of these winding jigs
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The sisal fibers
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The hand wound ropes so far
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Great work going on here.
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What's next? Your own cotton mill? :crazy:

Fascinating stuff
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Stokesy44 wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:32 am What's next? Your own cotton mill? :crazy:

Fascinating stuff
I can understand a cotton gin :lol: with tonic
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Now thats what I call going the extra mile - making your own rope!!! :cheers2:
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    It's such a huge build, all the changes, 3D printed parts ... :jd: :thumb1: :thumb2: :clap: :clap: :clap: !
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    cotton gin with tonic :lol:
    Been giggling at that one for a bit now

    Yes been doing lots of reading on rope making, it is very interesting.
    Hand cranked ropes and the machinery to do it.
    Mine are threads so I don't need to go too crazy
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    Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:02 pm cotton gin with tonic :lol:
    Been giggling at that one for a bit now

    Yes been doing lots of reading on rope making, it is very interesting.
    Hand cranked ropes and the machinery to do it.
    Mine are threads so I don't need to go too crazy
    if you can get your hand on wooden ships modeling you will have the information you need. Like ship modeling simplified. There's also, if I remember, the youtube channel of a woman who does ship modeling that as a tutorial on that... named Olha Batchvarov
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    Very nice work
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    Garion77 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
    Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:02 pm cotton gin with tonic :lol:
    Been giggling at that one for a bit now

    Yes been doing lots of reading on rope making, it is very interesting.
    Hand cranked ropes and the machinery to do it.
    Mine are threads so I don't need to go too crazy
    if you can get your hand on wooden ships modeling you will have the information you need. Like ship modeling simplified. There's also, if I remember, the youtube channel of a woman who does ship modeling that as a tutorial on that... named Olha Batchvarov


    Yes I watched her videos super complicated motor driven device
    I have done a good deep dive into this and have a few hand cranked ideas
    It is fascinating really how they made rope in old times
    I want just a simple jig. My tests with jute fibers show it snaps easy. I need to find some hemp :o
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    Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:18 pm
    Garion77 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
    Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:02 pm cotton gin with tonic :lol:
    Been giggling at that one for a bit now

    Yes been doing lots of reading on rope making, it is very interesting.
    Hand cranked ropes and the machinery to do it.
    Mine are threads so I don't need to go too crazy
    if you can get your hand on wooden ships modeling you will have the information you need. Like ship modeling simplified. There's also, if I remember, the youtube channel of a woman who does ship modeling that as a tutorial on that... named Olha Batchvarov


    Yes I watched her videos super complicated motor s driven device
    I have done a good deep dive into this and have a few hand cranked ideas
    It is fascinating really how they made rope in old times
    I want just a simple jig. My tests with jute fibers show it snaps easy. I need to find some hemp :o
    If you want I can go look in my 2 books on ship modeling... I think they had a few home solutions... and instead of jute fibers you can buy the actual rigging material in ship models individually at a few shops... like sunward hobbies if I remember. They are in Ontario
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    Strewth - I turn my back for a week and you've started your own naval stores.

    The detailing with the 3d printed stuff and wound rope is awesome and really livens up the basic kit detail - awesome work mate :th:
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    Thanks to everyone for the comments and funnies
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    Re: The Black Pearl

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    Twokidsnosleep wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:18 pm
    Garion77 wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:15 pm
    Twokidsnosleep wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:02 pm cotton gin with tonic :lol:
    Been giggling at that one for a bit now

    Yes been doing lots of reading on rope making, it is very interesting.
    Hand cranked ropes and the machinery to do it.
    Mine are threads so I don't need to go too crazy
    if you can get your hand on wooden ships modeling you will have the information you need. Like ship modeling simplified. There's also, if I remember, the youtube channel of a woman who does ship modeling that as a tutorial on that... named Olha Batchvarov


    Yes I watched her videos super complicated motor s driven device
    I have done a good deep dive into this and have a few hand cranked ideas
    It is fascinating really how they made rope in old times
    I want just a simple jig. My tests with jute fibers show it snaps easy. I need to find some hemp :o
    Try wetting the jute fibre's first it should make them much stronger.
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